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Rest in pieces WP rugby, WTF happened!!!

Started by kingcorn29 REPLIES1,410 VIEWS· 12 Oct 2021, 14:08
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KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
12 Oct 2021, 14:08
#1
12 Oct 2021, 14:08#1

So it has been confirmed that the once proud union and the holder of the most currie cups have gone into administration. 


SA rugby had to step to take over control. 


Too think that WP produce so many springboks as well as world class players. Kolbe, Burger, Etxebeth, PSTD and the list goes on. 


Growing up in the 80s and 90s. playing school rugby and even getting a chance to try for WP as a 13 year old.  


At one stage WP  had no debts and the only  team with a fully paid stadium. 


WTF  happend.  


I smell a bit  of ANC  cabal deploymen t  going on here. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Oct 2021, 15:01
#2
12 Oct 2021, 15:01#2

The fact is  WP became a union run by quasi-politicians  with no idea of  business management was never a consideration.   The Executive are selected by the Clubs and their vote is determined by the money they get from the Union - in other words a vote-buying operation with massive financial implications.

Another issue that needs to be investigated is that corruption involved in the Union.   In 2014 when WP ran out of money the Union went to Johann Rupert  for financial assistance.   He wanted to have  a major say on how he Union should be managed - but WP offered him a 49% share only so as to ensure that their malpractices could continue.      In the end the Union remained run by idiots and that was the end of it.  

I think that the end result would be that Rupert and Montsepe do what they did iro of the Bulls.  They would together  end up with a 74,5%  of the shares  and like in the case of the Bulls be given money to fund their recruiting of players.    Brits is used by the Rupert and Motsepe  venture to run the professional  aspects of the rugby and  they have plenty of top financial advisors to help them with the financial management of the  Union.       

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KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
12 Oct 2021, 16:12
#3
12 Oct 2021, 16:12#3

Ja Mike, I can't believe that we are run by so many  idiots. How on  earth, in the modern  day does a small  club or a cluster of rugby clubs hold so much power over one of the most powerful  rugby unions. 

We are meant to got professional. I wonder even if WP should even  continue to  fund the clubs. Should these clubs  run on their  own. Get local  sponsorship?  

Clubs should be tied to the communities, which in return, the grounds and facilities are funded by the municipality. 

I even question  the role of the clubs because I don't see them producing any springboks or provincial  players. 

Our players  are identified at age group. They play under 19 / 21 provincial competitions before they play  senior rugby. 

We have a fantastic school boys rugby system, then we also have the Varsity  cup. So I don't know what the value is for Camps Bay, Hamilton, Tygerber, villagers, to name a few. 

Yes, back in the day they were great for local rugby and it allows those who enjoy to play the  game  get a chance. But ultimately, no professionals play here. 

Time to cut the  chord 

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
12 Oct 2021, 16:48
#4
12 Oct 2021, 16:48#4
We all know what happened. Same thing that has happened to Eskom, Municipalities, education, roads…on and on. Can you pick the common denominator?
AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
12 Oct 2021, 18:25
#5
12 Oct 2021, 18:25#5

Yes, sadly it appears that everything touched by that common denominator does belly up.

COMRADS are filling their pockets.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
13 Oct 2021, 10:50
#6
13 Oct 2021, 10:50#6

Yes all very sad but perhaps you have to reach rock Bottom before it gets better.

At least when a guy like Rupert gets to control matters there is a fair chance that results will come.

It was sickening to see Newlands being sold. One of the great rugby Grounds of the world.

This has been bedeviling us for a long time. Useless gravy train paracites in charge.

SE
SebPro2,680 posts
13 Oct 2021, 11:16
#7
13 Oct 2021, 11:16#7

Yes, the demise of province rugby is indeed an utter shame, not to mention the lost of Newlands stadium, which is parallel for example the Lord's Cricket Stadium to cricket. Terrible and very sad.

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
13 Oct 2021, 11:42
#8
13 Oct 2021, 11:42#8

Ja, I think it started  way back  when the we built our Soccer stadiums. WP should have partnered with the local  government. 

Don't get me wrong,  Newlands  has many  happy memmories but  was alsways  a  bit of mud bath given  that it has  its own micro climate and probably the wettest place in SA

But I always loved the atmosphere. Not so much the stadium  but then there  are worst stadiums.  

For example, Twickenham. it is an absolute horrible place to watch any game. So dark and cold, watch SA vs Wales  in our WC quarters there. 

Ellis  park is a special  place and I was fortunate enough to watch Lambie slot a 50 m  kick to win the game.  

But really miss sitting at pack  Newlands, watching the stormers take on t he best from  Aus and NZ. Those were really good days. 

Back then  we even  had decent currie cup games that was worth a watch. 

Cheetahs were  still strong and the stadiums were packed. We had  a good period around  1998 until  2007/9, but the wheels started to come  off and fast

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
13 Oct 2021, 18:46
#9
13 Oct 2021, 18:46#9

Hellen Zille went to Sepp Blatter to force South Africa to build the Stadium in Greenpoint or lose Cape Town as a WC venu....she did it to block ANC kaders to make a lot of money from a Newlands deal...the ANC asumed a Newlands upgrade and positioned themself by aquiring rights to the adjacent properties etc...they would have made lots of money if it went to Newlands....poor insight from the D (DP in those days) caused this...remember, the ANC was in charge of the Cape Town metro in those days...a short sighted attempt to block the ANC at all cost lead to this BS...I can go on...

SE
SebPro2,680 posts
14 Oct 2021, 06:11
#10
14 Oct 2021, 06:11#10

Watched some of the best rugby at Newlands when WP were great, competitions between the Bulls (Northern Transvaal) and other sides, even Natal and first Test against Mc Brides Lions in pouring rain..I was very young then but have never forgotten and enjoyed rugger so much. Newlands was by far the best ground, with the leafy suburb and mountain in the background and spongy ground, very green and yes it could be hard going when raining at times but that was true rugby and the atmosphere was the best. Schooled briely at SACS and every day used to walk pass up across the Main Road and then up Dean Street from the Newlands station.

On the otherside lay Newlands Cricket Ground which was also a gem, surrounded by magnificent oak trees with cooing doves...most of the trees are gone now.

Newlands was such a beautiful suburb then...all gone as is so many things irreplacable and now the rugby. Never will be the same...sad is an understatement.

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
14 Oct 2021, 12:56
#11
14 Oct 2021, 12:56#11

So much pain, so much hate.

So delectable to witness.

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
14 Oct 2021, 12:57
#12
14 Oct 2021, 12:57#12

Termination of rugby incoming in SA.

Just taking a seat and enjoying the show.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
14 Oct 2021, 13:24
#13
14 Oct 2021, 13:24#13

What hate?

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
14 Oct 2021, 19:21
#14
14 Oct 2021, 19:21#14

Oh the pain, oh, the hate...

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
14 Oct 2021, 21:55
#15
14 Oct 2021, 21:55#15

Stop projecting...I'm at peace, but I must say that your constant negative vibe is excruciating. 

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
15 Oct 2021, 10:29
#16
15 Oct 2021, 10:29#16

Trad is a sick nut job. 


TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
15 Oct 2021, 12:57
#17
15 Oct 2021, 12:57#17

Constant negative vibe...

Depending on the perspective, SA rugby's (or more exactly absence of future) looks bright. Rejoicing. People should enjoy the free fall, it only hurts at its end.

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
15 Oct 2021, 12:58
#18
15 Oct 2021, 12:58#18

Trad is a sick nut job.

Maybe. But certainly not a racist. Or a globalist.

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
15 Oct 2021, 15:07
#19
15 Oct 2021, 15:07#19
Yes you are! You have been ranting and raving about SA whites and your hate for them + SA Rugby. Most off your posts shows this.
MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
15 Oct 2021, 15:09
#20
15 Oct 2021, 15:09#20
Are you delusional or just plain stupid??
TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
20 Oct 2021, 16:57
#21
20 Oct 2021, 16:57#21

You have been ranting and raving about SA whites and your hate for them + SA Rugby.

SA whites are a fraction of what is called white people.

Being white skinned is not a curse. It certainly does not mean jump in on any boat people that happen to be white skinned people are setting up.

Being a white skinned person does not mean blind loyalty to another skinned people.

Especially when those white skinned people who enjoy calling themselves white are setting up blatant tales like an ongoing quota policy.

No loyalty to this sort of people just on the ground they happen to be white skinned too.

Loyalty goes to simple arithmetics that show no ongoing quota policy.

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
20 Oct 2021, 17:20
#22
20 Oct 2021, 17:20#22
Trad = sad mole wanker here to troll you I keep telling you guys that the moment you engage him he wins. Ignore.
TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
21 Oct 2021, 13:31
#23
21 Oct 2021, 13:31#23

So much hate. No voice to denunciate it. Revealing.

Nevertheless, engaged or not engaged, it changes nothing.

SA rugby will be seen terminated.

AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
21 Oct 2021, 14:31
#24
21 Oct 2021, 14:31#24

The truth is that the WPRU was ANC-ed.


Just like the rest of RSA.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 Oct 2021, 17:49
#25
21 Oct 2021, 17:49#25

Destroyers...

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
21 Oct 2021, 18:09
#26
21 Oct 2021, 18:09#26

What a fantastic government that has kept failing at taking the inevitable and essential decision of terminating rugby in SA...

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 Oct 2021, 18:38
#27
21 Oct 2021, 18:38#27

Not for a lack of trying by some individuals...spite...tells you something hey Trad?

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
21 Oct 2021, 21:01
#28
21 Oct 2021, 21:01#28

Nope.

Now if theirs attempts (if they exist because this board is a house for tales), equating them to posts tells it all.

On the other hand, the actions of the SA government to try to extend the life of the corpse known as SA rugby are well and clear.

It is expected that contrary to the claim, the ANC never tried to end SA rugby. Saving SA rugby is an impossible mission and a lost cause. Managing the termination of it is easy as a cake.

It can not be believed that even the blacks in SA would fail to deliver if they try.

If that is the case, getting rid of such an unproficient government is a priority. To set up a government at least able to carry over such a menial task.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 Oct 2021, 21:12
#29
21 Oct 2021, 21:12#29

"It can not be believed that even the blacks in SA would fail to deliver if they try.

If that is the case, getting rid of such an unproficient government is a priority. "

It's not about black and white...it's about the power of tribalism and resistance to change...white people are about 8% of the population,  we are insignificant as a political force...there are many more black people than whites who are in opposition to the ANC, but tribal tradition keeps it from happening faster...it's gonna take much more time for the people to realize what cANCer the ANC has become...corrupt to the core...but getting rid of them we will.

AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
22 Oct 2021, 18:30
#30
22 Oct 2021, 18:30#30

Absolutely correct DbD.

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