Captain30,741 posts
11 Oct 2021, 13:16
#1
11 Oct 2021, 13:16#1
In the match on the weekend
Fuck sake that means more of Mostert on the EOYT
RG Snyman injured
Started by Saffolk 33 REPLIES1,363 VIEWS· 11 Oct 2021, 13:16
Pro3,695 posts
11 Oct 2021, 15:54
#2
11 Oct 2021, 15:54#2
Don't forget Orrie, No Steph or RG
Captain49,914 posts
11 Oct 2021, 15:59
#3
11 Oct 2021, 15:59#3
Pity about RG….potentially the best 5 in rugby. Sorry for Dud Toit, but he’s no loss. Hell he has hardly played rugby for 2 years.
Pro5,061 posts
11 Oct 2021, 16:18
#4
11 Oct 2021, 16:18#4
That is not good...I know some of you don’t like mostert, but this guy is as tough as nails.....he is not playing his top game at the moment for one simple reason, he is being overplayed. Give the man a break and he will come back refreshed. In the mean time guys like Evan, Xaba etc. Also from other teams, should be brought in to build our player depth.....this is always been a weak point in SA Rugby and still is! Look at team choices from niebies and CO. Sticking with guys that past there prime instead of bleeding the young guns in. I am afraid that if this does not happen quickly, we will go to WC with old players as there will be no sufficient player depth build. Get it right Harrassmiss and krutch! If there is one thing that we all can agree on, is the obvious fact that the Boks + SA Rugby should be doing much much better. Although I said that Rassie had balls to say what he said, he should have kept his mouth shut. He is putting extra strain on a already strained rugby system + country. No more fucking excuses just get it right or get steppin!!!
Pro5,061 posts
11 Oct 2021, 16:22
#5
11 Oct 2021, 16:22#5
That is not good...I know some of you don’t like mostert, but this guy is as tough as nails.....he is not playing his top game at the moment for one simple reason, he is being overplayed. Give the man a break and he will come back refreshed. In the mean time guys like Evan, Xaba etc. Also from other teams, should be brought in to build our player depth.....this is always been a weak point in SA Rugby and still is! Look at team choices from niebies and CO. Sticking with guys that past there prime instead of bleeding the young guns in. I am afraid that if this does not happen quickly, we will go to WC with old players as there will be no sufficient player depth build. Get it right Harrassmiss and krutch! If there is one thing that we all can agree on, is the obvious fact that the Boks + SA Rugby should be doing much much better. Although I said that Rassie had balls to say what he said, he should have kept his mouth shut. He is putting extra strain on a already strained rugby system + country. No more fucking excuses just get it right or get steppin!!!
Captain49,914 posts
11 Oct 2021, 16:32
#6
11 Oct 2021, 16:32#6
Agreed with most of that M….I see no evidence that our pack is less powerful when Mostert is at lock. Witness the WC final, our best performance in many years, where Mostert played 2/3s of the game.
Pro6,974 posts
11 Oct 2021, 16:36
#7
11 Oct 2021, 16:36#7
Mostert isn't a poofter like Limp and PTSD. The man makes critical contributions and is with Eben as our best lineout option on both sides of the ball (Eben making a little more than double the lineout steals of Limp).
Captain40,032 posts
11 Oct 2021, 16:43
#8
11 Oct 2021, 16:43#8
First of all Mpower his name is Rassie and he has more rugby knowledege in his big toe that unhinged nutter who designated him as Harrassmiss or whatever the insulting name is.
The Boks sit at number 1 in the world. SO THEY ARE DOING WELL.
WHAT EXCUSES. FACT IS RASSIE'ES PRESENCE WAS MISSED DOWN UNDER AS YOU YOURSELF MPOWER NOTED. SECONDLY, THE CLOWNS WERE MOANING ABOUT RASSIE NOT ALLOWING NIENABER TO BE COACH THEN WENT AFTER RASSIE SAYING HE WAS RUNNING AWAY WHEN HE DIDNT MAKE THE TRIP.
We are dealing here with extreme bias and bigotry. Rassie in the eyes of these buffoons can do no right. The facts show exactly the opposite.
Hearty congratulations to Rassie for his part in exposing the shockingly bad ref effort by Berry. Given the state of affairs I would support a full analysis of every ref officiating when the Boks play being made public.
Rassie apparently has sent many clips to the IRB about bad refs. Love all of those clips to be released. Also like to know who actually leaked the Rassie clip. Apparently it was not Rassie but that person deserves huge kudos.
Weak twits afraid of controversy and unable to stand up for fair play want all this cheating covered up. THIS IS WHY THIS BS CONTINUES YEAR AFTER YEAR.
I watch the Bulls playing Cardiff. What a pleasure to see a ref doing his job with no bias.
No more moaning about Rassie please oaks it has reflected very badly on you thus far. Wait until you have something to moan about otherwise you just look like the loons you are hahahahahaha. Ditto trashing the Boks, the number 1 ranked side in the world.
The facts are simple we are very fortunate to have Rassie as a coach. Those suggesting otherwise are not supported by the facts.
Captain49,914 posts
11 Oct 2021, 16:47
#9
11 Oct 2021, 16:47#9
Do stop whining HasBeen….nobody with half a brain thinks Harrassmiss’ stance on the refs helped our rugby….which is his job.
Back to RG after all the tearful bleating ….sadly it’s his ACL again:
Munster have confirmed that Springbok star RG Snyman has ruptured his ACL again, just three games into his return from the same injury in 2020.
Pro6,974 posts
11 Oct 2021, 16:51
#10
11 Oct 2021, 16:51#10
I don't think the Saffers have good levels of fitness post-lockdown.
Captain49,914 posts
11 Oct 2021, 17:42
#11
11 Oct 2021, 17:42#11
Once again, the whole psychology around the Chicken run hurt our players.
Pro5,061 posts
11 Oct 2021, 17:47
#12
11 Oct 2021, 17:47#12
Beeno the day I heard that rassie is our coach I jumped for joy as I thought now we will get consistent. Beat the best teams constantly. For all the hype with WC and lions series then for us to go lose twice vs oz, is poor and not consistent. I myself as a kannie dood bok supporter is sick and tired of the Boks not being consistent. AB are consistently good. With all the plethora of player talent why the hell are we not consistent? The Nr1 ranking is flattery as we only won the AB 1 and lost 3. This is not good anove and we as bok supporters and all our Bok players deserve better. Not saying rassie isn’t good and hope his health will get better, but at the moment they must do better!!
Pro6,974 posts
11 Oct 2021, 18:02
#13
11 Oct 2021, 18:02#13
When you are almost man-for-man weaker, how can you produce a better product? Coaching hasn't been as good as it needs to be. I don't really know why this is all a surprise now. I don't wish Rassie in health woes, but his coaching stinks, and it's consistently stank for a very long period of time. The Boks have not been very good under him. A few results here and there, and many they were lucky to pull off. In truth, a better-reffed Lions series would have seen us lose if we are being honest. In Australia and New Zealand we found opponents who were good enough to overcome the 16th man.
Captain30,741 posts
11 Oct 2021, 18:30
#14
11 Oct 2021, 18:30#14
Npower you are clearly as rugby ignorant as some on here
Mostert as hard as nails, seriously?
The same guy who could not clear out an 18 year old Georgian fullback
All you see is Mostert’s engine he has plenty of heart and energy with fuck all physical productivity
With ball in hand operating in traffic he ends up getting smashed backwards, he is completely ineffective on the clear out and you never see him putting in big physical hits - because he is a light weight
You see him running around making nice low open field tackles, taking some line out ball and running around bouncing off players
None of the above is the requirement for a test standard lock or blindside especially as a Bok
Comparing average Mostet to the very impressive PSDT is like comparing Morne Steyn to Pollard
The value of PSDT became very apparent when we saw Mostert doing a piss poor show at 7 recently, so much so he was dropped
Pro5,061 posts
11 Oct 2021, 18:54
#15
11 Oct 2021, 18:54#15
Saffex some of the things you say about mostert is true. It’s because he is being overplayed. And I have seen him tackle hard, carrier ball well and offloading well to. The reason why he is as tough as nails, he gets injured less.
Captain26,388 posts
11 Oct 2021, 18:59
#16
11 Oct 2021, 18:59#16
I smell a multi-mole...
Captain49,914 posts
11 Oct 2021, 19:07
#17
11 Oct 2021, 19:07#17
Lomp and Dud get smashed the same way…..locks rarely make metres. If he is allowed to do it Mostert is an excellent offloader…courtesy of his Lions’ days.
Guys like Itoje, Retallik and Jones don’t try to beat tackles….they take contact and offload. Locks are good at that. That’s what they should do.
But if we want somebody to break tackles and get over the advantage line, find a blocky runner like Vunipola.
Pro5,061 posts
11 Oct 2021, 19:11
#18
11 Oct 2021, 19:11#18
Aikona DB.
Captain26,388 posts
11 Oct 2021, 19:15
#19
11 Oct 2021, 19:15#19
"Aikona DB."...maybe, I'm cool either way...welcome whoever you are or ain't...just a small peculiarity, probably just a coincidence.
Pro5,061 posts
11 Oct 2021, 19:21
#20
11 Oct 2021, 19:21#20
Ok DB. Which small peculiarities are you referring to?
Captain26,388 posts
11 Oct 2021, 19:45
#21
11 Oct 2021, 19:45#21
Nevermind...we're a paranoid bunch when it comes to new posters...I'm probably on a wild goose hunt...which local team do you support?
PS...I'm sorry if I offended...net 'n klip in die bos gegooi.
Pro5,061 posts
11 Oct 2021, 20:32
#22
11 Oct 2021, 20:32#22
Nou worries DB. Stormers. And I think you referring to some of my new posts coming of biased. Beeno also stated that. It might look like that at first glance but since I joined ruckers, my rugby knowledge has become better due to allot of accurate knowledge that get shared here. 1 post in particular from Augen offner, where a lot was said but it ended with stats showing that boks are just above 50% success rate. This and many other post has changed my viewpoint to a extend where I want to stay a realist. I have been a supporter of rassie as player and as coach....but with these stats we are mediocre at best. AB are at 78%! Like I said before I will stay bok supporter but shoh things must change. I will only be happy until Boks travel to New Zealand + OZ regularly, and beat there socks of....maybe loose here and there in an tough battle, but be Consistently good.
Captain26,388 posts
11 Oct 2021, 20:56
#23
11 Oct 2021, 20:56#23
No worries...the Boks are certainly a work in progress...we need to blood new talent for sure...but we aren't as bad as some would make out either...if the Allblacks is the benchmark everyone, including myself, claim they are, the Bokke isn't far off, if even...much closer at the top than it used to be...very little between the top 6 sides.
Pro6,974 posts
11 Oct 2021, 21:39
#24
11 Oct 2021, 21:39#24
The Boks are nowhere close.
Captain30,741 posts
11 Oct 2021, 22:38
#25
11 Oct 2021, 22:38#25
No Mpower it’s got nothing to do with Mostert being overplayed. It has everything to do with the fact that Mostert has obviously never spent much time in the gym muscling up.
The guy weighs the same as de Allende hardly the physical credentials required of a Bok lock
The guy is tall, thin with narrow shoulders, no muscle definition or bulk. He cannot impose himself physically and never will
For me I think he is a physical liability who would not be anywhere near my Bok squad - there are many better physical options at lock and blindside
Pro5,061 posts
11 Oct 2021, 22:57
#26
11 Oct 2021, 22:57#26
I will certainly agree with you that there are plenty of options in new talent that should be in bok camp right now. Mostert weighs 112 kg compared to Pieter 120 kg. The weight difference is quite big but for the less weight mostert gives you mobility and durability. Make no mistake Pieter is awesome but his injuries are quite bad.
Captain30,741 posts
11 Oct 2021, 23:26
#27
11 Oct 2021, 23:26#27
You keep banging on about mobility and durability and miss the point completely
The Bok pack generally sets the standard when it comes to a dominating physical pack of forwards. The primary source of this physicality should come from your two props and locks, followed by your blindside, hooker and 8.
Mobility is required from your 6 and 8, with the 8 not conceding in the physical stakes.
So in a nutshell you do not need mobility at lock or blindside as your primary requirement. Your primary has to be a big physical athlete with mobility featuring as a secondary requirement.
The only exception to this rule was Matfield in his prime as he was on another level and to be fair to him, weighed a respectable 115kg in his prime thanks to obvious work in the gym
I’ve never understood why Mostert has never strived to add some bulk, thereby turning him into a useful physical specimen. He must be one lazy shit off the field
Captain30,741 posts
11 Oct 2021, 23:35
#28
11 Oct 2021, 23:35#28
So RG has re- ruptured his cruciate ligament.
Means it’s probably another 6 to 9 months out
Pro5,061 posts
11 Oct 2021, 23:43
#29
11 Oct 2021, 23:43#29
That is very unfortunate. The question now is who will Nienaber bring into squad for extra cover? My candidate will be JD Schickerling.
Pro6,974 posts
11 Oct 2021, 23:47
#30
11 Oct 2021, 23:47#30
Lood and PTSD are underpowered and have the mobility of totem pole. Though PTSD looks like a giraffe on ice on defence. Both have exceedingly poor skills.
Captain30,741 posts
12 Oct 2021, 00:12
#31
12 Oct 2021, 00:12#31
JD Schickerling or Ruben v Heerden would be my choices to replace RG
But I’d have both in the squad and I’d get rid of the utterly useless Orie
I’d bring Jason Jenkins to replace Nico Janse v Rensburg
I’d bring in Ruben Schoeman to replace Mostert
Pro5,061 posts
12 Oct 2021, 00:15
#32
12 Oct 2021, 00:15#32
If we win all of remaining games EOYT, to what win percentage will move?
Pro5,061 posts
12 Oct 2021, 00:26
#33
12 Oct 2021, 00:26#33
Yes both good players
Captain12,893 posts
12 Oct 2021, 00:35
#34
12 Oct 2021, 00:35#34
"No worries...the Boks are certainly a work in progress...we need to blood new talent for sure...but we aren't as bad as some would make out either...if the Allblacks is the benchmark everyone, including myself, claim they are, the Bokke isn't far off, if even...much closer at the top than it used to be...very little between the top 6 sides."
No worries...the Boks are certainly a work in progress...I hope so, if they get it right they'd be a good chance of dominating rugby with the talent that's available we need to blood new talent for sure...Agreed...but we aren't as bad as some would make out either...Agreed if the Allblacks is the benchmark everyone, including myself, claim they are, the Bokke isn't far off, Agreed if even...much closer at the top than it used to be...very little between the top 6 2 sides.
RG Snyman is the next layer for the future of Bok rugby, no-one knows at this point what negative impact the injury will have on his future, we hope the best for a very special player.
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