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Rugby Championship 2015 vs 2019

Started by Augenöffner36 REPLIES1,525 VIEWS· 24 Aug 2019, 01:28
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
24 Aug 2019, 01:28
#1
24 Aug 2019, 01:28#1

For the very last time. Never to be done again. 







* Subs not included

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Aug 2019, 08:29
#2
24 Aug 2019, 08:29#2

What stats are the above - is it for the whole series or what?   Tries is total baloney o for the whole series.    

The results are also not given - so what is going on here BSter?   

Unless the stats are correct - what is the purpose of posting those,  Bette rttobase it on ESPN than on own dreams and concoctions.     

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
24 Aug 2019, 09:48
#3
24 Aug 2019, 09:48#3

It is ESPN - not that they are the gold standard . Why do you always make the simple things a long drawn out fiasco? Do you find it difficult to understand? 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Aug 2019, 10:38
#4
24 Aug 2019, 10:38#4

AO

No I do not understand the issue of the number of tries scored.   I suspect you bugger up as you normally do - to twist issues,  

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Aug 2019, 10:38
#5
24 Aug 2019, 10:38#5

AO

No I do not understand the issue of the number of tries scored.   I suspect you bugger up as you normally do - to twist issues,  

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Aug 2019, 10:38
#6
24 Aug 2019, 10:38#6

AO

No I do not understand the issue of the number of tries scored.   I suspect you bugger up as you normally do - to twist issues,  

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
24 Aug 2019, 11:09
#7
24 Aug 2019, 11:09#7

You need to reread this thread and think a little more carefully.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Aug 2019, 11:22
#8
24 Aug 2019, 11:22#8

There was nothing to reread,  Three teams listed and the tries issue mangled up - so what is thee to read?   I do not even wish to check the rest because the idiot has been already exposed.   The heading is clear - but the rest mumbo jumbo in th normal idiot speak scenario embodied in AO.

LMAO.          

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
24 Aug 2019, 11:32
#9
24 Aug 2019, 11:32#9

I gave you the opportunity to connect the dots yourself. Herchel's try against New Zealand is not represented by starting backline figures because he was a substitute. Was it really that hard? Is it really this difficult for you? This is why you reduce the quality of discussions on every thread, we end up wasting an inordinate amount of time over very basic details when we should be using those details as a starting point for deeper discussion. It seldom gets to that point. You never miss an opportunity to asphyxiate a thread with childish mud slinging. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Aug 2019, 12:39
#10
24 Aug 2019, 12:39#10

Fuck - but this is totally dim - so tries scored by replacement players do not count in his idiotic idiocy and do not represent contributes to final results.  Heaven above - is the man a total idiot or just pretending to be one!!!!!!! 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Aug 2019, 13:38
#11
24 Aug 2019, 13:38#11

Can we all agree the following:

The Boks have improved dramatically

Rassie is at a minimum a fine coach

Steph du Toit is at minimum world class

Allende is the best SA based 12

All pretty obvious stuff surely


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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
24 Aug 2019, 13:53
#12
24 Aug 2019, 13:53#12

I think Rassie is okay. I'll never agree on Steph or Damian. Not unless these change overnight, in which case there'd be one heck of a glitch in the matrix. I have hope f or your yet Herr Sitzsack. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Aug 2019, 13:59
#13
24 Aug 2019, 13:59#13

Huffer you are losing your puffer i mean marbles! At least you show some movement on Rassie.

We will get you there yet!

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Aug 2019, 14:24
#14
24 Aug 2019, 14:24#14

Beeno

Obvious to thinking rugby spectators who appreciate the game - but not to the speakers of the exultant language of Idiots.  

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
24 Aug 2019, 14:52
#15
24 Aug 2019, 14:52#15

It's quite simple, every single detail you have pushed on this forum has been wrong. It's absolutely stunning, you should have gotten something right just by chance alone. Now, with the information posted, how can you tell me Rassie's Boks are the better attacking team? You can't defend your position with anything other than insults - which don't actually amount to any kind of defence at all. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Aug 2019, 16:07
#16
24 Aug 2019, 16:07#16

I have pushed everything that is right on site.   That is the problem - we have members whop hates the present coach and a long list of present players 

They have never come up with anything positive on site.   The better layers they demonize the poor players they lie to protect them from criticism.   They cannot accept that winning the RC Trophy shows a vast improvement on what happened before and the hide away the fact that  in -

*    2015 the team lost all three matches with a negative point difference of 23; and 

*    2019 the team won the Trophy with a positive point difference of  51  

They also ignored the fact that in the 2015 series the Springboks scored 7 tries  and in 2019 they scored 12 tries.  

So our members fiddled and now claims that the Springboks in 2015 played better rugby then they did in 2019.   This really is unbelievable junk and the nonsense calls for real insults because of the idiocy involved.   

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
24 Aug 2019, 16:20
#17
24 Aug 2019, 16:20#17

I have ignored nothing. I covered all of these details. In fact, I brought that information to light before you did. What I did was discuss the context to those numbers. With the information above, prove your case. You keep dancing around the topic, flailing about, a shambles. Drawing as much attention to yourself as possible. For the very first time, produce a well reasoned argument. No insults, no emotional convulsions, no lies. 

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SebPro2,680 posts
24 Aug 2019, 16:42
#18
24 Aug 2019, 16:42#18

It is obvious that there has been a noticeable improvement, not only by the stats but 2 very important characteristics too...there is a spring in the step of the players (team spirit looks positive) and winning games is the bottom line...beating the AB's in the Championship is an acololade any side would be over the moon with, beating Australia convincingly and thrashing Puma's in Salta are great achievements which ever way you see it.

One wonders if these arguments will continue if the Boks walk away with the big cup next month.

Now that will be funny and all the egg that's available in Oudtshoorn (ostrich's) will not be enough to baptise these naysayers.

Mike and Beeno will have a hay day...Trump will be forgotten and so will all the troubles we have in SA will disappear just for a short spell.

Maybe the SA stocks might turn to Bulls.

If you live in SA, we have to live in hope, despite the odds. Well it's good to dream...

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Aug 2019, 16:49
#19
24 Aug 2019, 16:49#19

AO

Look at the scorecard - stupid!!!

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
24 Aug 2019, 17:15
#20
24 Aug 2019, 17:15#20

I'm not asking about the scoreboard, I'm asking about the game style. This is what you have been arguing about for over a year. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Aug 2019, 19:02
#21
24 Aug 2019, 19:02#21

Look at the scorecard - stupid!!!

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
24 Aug 2019, 19:11
#22
24 Aug 2019, 19:11#22
I see that white flag you hold behind you. Don't be shy, just wave it. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Aug 2019, 19:14
#23
24 Aug 2019, 19:14#23

Look at the scorecard - stupid!!!

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
24 Aug 2019, 19:17
#24
24 Aug 2019, 19:17#24

Australia, 68.7% backline involvement over the 54% under Rassie. That with very little possession. Los Pumas, 6 kicks in 2015 to the 22 kicks in 2019. Clearly, things were not as you thought. In the Wallaby test alone, there were more ambitious plays than under Rassie. This is rather embarrassing for you. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Aug 2019, 19:18
#25
24 Aug 2019, 19:18#25
The scoreboard is in our favour because of our improved defence.....and if we we scored tries against a particular opponent, they have come because of the efforts of our defence to set up turnover ball. Opportunistic wing tries, and halves and forwards scored because of lots of ball near the oppo line. Our centres registered zippo tries because our constructive back play is still B league. The only thing which has lifted the Boks is defence.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Aug 2019, 20:15
#26
24 Aug 2019, 20:15#26

Mozart

Just help out AO by giving him the name of the famous  sportsman who made that remark when he w as confronted by an idiot.

We heard all this coverup for the loss of face by you two before  and the defense of Meyer and demonizing of Erasmus is a joke.    


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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
24 Aug 2019, 21:19
#27
24 Aug 2019, 21:19#27
Cover up? I'm basically a hound digging up your trash. Nothing even slightly hidden or obscured.
You claimed the backline got no ball under Meyer, we find they consistently got more ball in 2015 from beginning to end. 
You claim there were more aimless kicks under Meyer. That was debunked by Pakie. 
You claim Meyer's Boks were less successful ball in hand, yet we find they achieved a higher output.
You claim Meyer's Boks lagged behind their RC rivals, yet they were consistently #2 and even outdid NZ in many statistical categories in his second year.
No matter which way we look at these things, your outlook is always wrong. You can't even tamely defend yourself. 
Go ahead, tell me how stupid I am and go give yourself a nice pat on the back. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Aug 2019, 22:00
#28
24 Aug 2019, 22:00#28

Dream on and don't insult a hound.  A higher output with a much lower effect.   Dream on.  

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
24 Aug 2019, 22:13
#29
24 Aug 2019, 22:13#29

Given your inevitable and humiliating collapse I am officially done with the topic of Meyer and any comparison with Rassie. I'm also done with your tiring rants concerning any past players. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Aug 2019, 22:18
#30
24 Aug 2019, 22:18#30

And I am tired of hearing the same BS all the time iro of a coach who was clueless about especially team s election - that is why you are one of his greatest admirers.   The more clueless the better. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Aug 2019, 22:18
#31
24 Aug 2019, 22:18#31

Duplicate

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Aug 2019, 22:18
#32
24 Aug 2019, 22:18#32

D uplicate

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Aug 2019, 22:18
#33
24 Aug 2019, 22:18#33

D uplicate

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Aug 2019, 23:37
#34
24 Aug 2019, 23:37#34
Puleeze clean up your multiple posting, it's a pain.
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
27 Jul 2021, 23:47
#35
27 Jul 2021, 23:47#35

Oh Dear Mr Saffy. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Jul 2021, 07:12
#36
28 Jul 2021, 07:12#36

Another recovery from a  raving fool to bring back something trying to prove nothing.   The fac is that I  caught out the Kindergarten Imbecile with manipulating stats in the past and whatw as he trying to prove here in this case?    

I think what he is trying to prove zip.    He is suggesting that the only reason why the Springboks won the RC in 2015 and lost every match in 2015 was that the opposition teams were stronger than they were in 2019 and the Springboks did therefore  win the  2019 RC despite being a poorer team than the 2015 farce were. 

His normal attack is totally delusional and the opening figures listed above only refer to the three opposing teams and not the Springboks. stats in the two years.   Why is that?

In any event his theories has been disproved already.    Meyer was effectively fired by SARU because he was a dud coach with no idea about team selection - no idea about game plans and a complete farce   as a coach - proven subsequently by his disaster as coach of Stade Francais.    .   

  .   

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
28 Jul 2021, 19:26
#37
28 Jul 2021, 19:26#37

"In any event his theories has been disproved already.    Meyer was effectively fired by SARU because he was a dud coach "

According to whose mother Lügnerin? 

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