J Barrett
Kellaway
Ioane
Kerevi
Koroibete
Cooper
Faf du Plessis
Kitshoff
Taylor
Tupou
Etzebeth
Barrett
Savea
Hooper
Vermeulen
Captain49,914 posts
03 Oct 2021, 01:39
#1
03 Oct 2021, 01:39#1
Rugby Cup Team of the tournament
Started by Mozart33 REPLIES1,138 VIEWS· 03 Oct 2021, 01:39
Pro6,974 posts
03 Oct 2021, 01:41
#2
03 Oct 2021, 01:41#2
Nick White at scrumhalf. Kwagga has been our most consistent loose forward, if not player.
Captain49,914 posts
03 Oct 2021, 01:51
#3
03 Oct 2021, 01:51#3
Agreed Kwagga has been a big for the Boks, but I still prefer Hooper. White and Faf are similar players, close call.
I struggled most with 5 lock. There really wasn’t a good choice. I finally settled on Barrett because he was huge in the first Bok game. Likewise Taylor, although Marx would probably have got this if he was starting.
I’m not convinced with Kellaway, but he certainly produced the goods in Campesi style.
Pro6,974 posts
03 Oct 2021, 01:58
#4
03 Oct 2021, 01:58#4
Hooper definitely the best loosie in the competition. Kwagga could take 8 though.
Agreed about 5.
Marx is one of our best players. It's criminal that he isn't the starter in my opinion.
Captain26,388 posts
03 Oct 2021, 07:39
#5
03 Oct 2021, 07:39#5
Faf du Plessis is the best batsman in the team.
Captain17,321 posts
03 Oct 2021, 08:55
#6
03 Oct 2021, 08:55#6
Moz has jinxed me so badly with that one I can't even remember Faf's real surname now
Captain30,741 posts
03 Oct 2021, 12:51
#7
03 Oct 2021, 12:51#7
Lood at 5 all the way was far better than Barrett
Pro6,974 posts
03 Oct 2021, 14:26
#8
03 Oct 2021, 14:26#8
Limp?
You must be joking. I'm surprised you haven't got PTSD in your side.
Captain30,741 posts
03 Oct 2021, 14:59
#9
03 Oct 2021, 14:59#9
Lood was by some distance the best 5 in the RC it’s not even close
FACT
Captain49,914 posts
03 Oct 2021, 15:38
#10
03 Oct 2021, 15:38#10
Hahaha….it was late in Chicago on a long day. A bit of a classic! Lomp was walking the last 20 minutes in the first AB test, he has a real stamina problem and is just a process player.
Pro6,974 posts
03 Oct 2021, 15:50
#11
03 Oct 2021, 15:50#11
Poor defence, poor carries, rare moments at the breakdown. No. Had lineout steals, but that's a collective achievement in large part, working in unison with his lifter. Nyet, Limp was hopeless.
Captain30,741 posts
03 Oct 2021, 18:16
#12
03 Oct 2021, 18:16#12
Your bias is a laugh - Lood proved you fools completely wrong, you kept maintaining he only looked good against average opposition - which was a load of crap in the first place
Well he has stood tall against the best and has in fact even been better than Eben except for yesterday.
Your choice of Barrett is both an insult and a laugh - he was not even close to Lood, he was about as effective as Mostert
Pro6,974 posts
03 Oct 2021, 18:25
#13
03 Oct 2021, 18:25#13
I never said he looked good against average opposition. I said he only had one passable test: His debut against Scotland in 2014. Limp is a total no-show. Slow, unskilled, unathletic, pap and stupid. Ende.
Captain30,741 posts
03 Oct 2021, 18:31
#14
03 Oct 2021, 18:31#14
I was not talking about you as I don’t really take note of the utter shit you write
I meant Moz
Pro6,974 posts
03 Oct 2021, 18:33
#15
03 Oct 2021, 18:33#15
Unter-O on the brink of another prolapse.
Pro3,183 posts
03 Oct 2021, 18:56
#16
03 Oct 2021, 18:56#16
Honestly I feel that no SA player qualified for selection.
Kwagga and Frans did a great job.
The reason Marx does not get selected (is because of the color numbers game for starting Bok teams that must meet quota regulations) but we all know that he should be the starting #2.
The last kick by Elton that won the game was impossible to miss even Loop would have made it.
Sure we won the game but a lot of work and changes are required if we want to remain #1.
Captain49,914 posts
03 Oct 2021, 21:57
#17
03 Oct 2021, 21:57#17
Lomp was very average yesterday and so tired we had to sub our number 5 lock whereas one would hope to normally sub the 4 lock. He is tall, not particularly strong….slow as a slug and lazy. His pattern is one better game followed by a series of declining performances.
Not a competitor.
Captain30,741 posts
03 Oct 2021, 22:11
#18
03 Oct 2021, 22:11#18
Oh what utter rubbish Lood was very good yesterday and given useless Mostert was on the bench you are hardly going to sub Eben for him so it’s obvious Mostert comes on for Lood
Lood has embarrassed you as he has been great all series out shining even Eben except for yesterday’s game
He is big, physical and by far our best line out operator. Always crosses the advantage line while carrying in traffic - something useless Mostert can only dream about
Captain49,914 posts
03 Oct 2021, 22:45
#19
03 Oct 2021, 22:45#19
Last week Mostert came on for Eben. So much for that theory. It’s far more typical to swop number 4…but you can’t if your number 5 lock can’t run anymore.
Lomp is exactly the ordinary player he has always been….a decent but not dominant lineout option. A slug everywhere else.
sharkbok
Captain23,230 posts
Captain23,230 posts
03 Oct 2021, 22:48
#20
03 Oct 2021, 22:48#20
The lineouts have certainly been better with Lomp on the park.
Mostert may have played himself out of the team, and perhaps even the squad. His time at 7 was short-lived- and he is certainly no PSDT convert.
Captain30,741 posts
03 Oct 2021, 23:10
#21
03 Oct 2021, 23:10#21
So because he subbed Eben one week you think he has to every week - wow. Especially considering how useless Mostert is
I think you will find that the lock sub varies depending on which lock is more knackered
Lood is one of the best locks in the game - there is no other lock in the game I’d play ahead of him at 5 except RG
Shark is spot on - with the Boks no longer using the 6/2 split Mostert is toast and thank fuck he is. The guy is a complete physical liability.
With RG and PSDT returning, there is thankfully no longer any room for Mostert in the match 23.
It will be PSDT at 7, Lood or RG starting at 5 with the other on the bench and possibly Kwagga on the bench
Captain49,914 posts
04 Oct 2021, 00:04
#22
04 Oct 2021, 00:04#22
Generally the 5 lock stays on because the game gets more open as players get tired. It’s not 100% but usual….Bakkies was subbed not Matfield.
The lineouts are not better with Lomp….Mostert is our best 5 jumper.
Lions 3….Boks 12/14….Lions 11/12…..Lomp starts….Lions plus 1
Lions 2 Boks 10/12 …Lions 8/11…..Mostert starts…Boks plus 1
Lions 1 Boks 4/4….Lions 14/16….Mostert starts…..Boks plus 2
….
Emotional thinking will sink you every time.
Captain30,741 posts
04 Oct 2021, 00:08
#23
04 Oct 2021, 00:08#23
No chance in hell, Lood looks far more commanding in the line outs than Mostert has ever done. Great at reading the steal as well
If you are wanting to sub your 4 more than your 5 then it makes no sense at all having a Mostert type of player on the bench.
Captain49,914 posts
04 Oct 2021, 00:17
#24
04 Oct 2021, 00:17#24
‘Looks’ doesn’t cut it Dave. To you he looks commanding…to me he is way slower than Mostert in getting the ball in scrummie hands at the right place.
The facts support my view.
And you keep missing the dumb stuff he does. Take Jantjies kickoff…it was going to land beyond the 10 metre line, but Lomp lost his sense of place and tapped it back before it crossed. Scrum to NZ which should have been the ball game. Just another potential match losing blunder.
The facts support my view.
And you keep missing the dumb stuff he does. Take Jantjies kickoff…it was going to land beyond the 10 metre line, but Lomp lost his sense of place and tapped it back before it crossed. Scrum to NZ which should have been the ball game. Just another potential match losing blunder.
Pro6,974 posts
04 Oct 2021, 00:20
#25
04 Oct 2021, 00:20#25
Lood is laughable. So too the failure that is Steph. The plastiks love a good dud.
Captain49,914 posts
04 Oct 2021, 00:27
#26
04 Oct 2021, 00:27#26
The logic is so delightful…..Harrassmiss is a genius and he chose Mostert over all the duds Dave wants in the squad….but for some reason or other, Dave an erstwhile centre knows locks better than the genius who was a Bok forward.
You couldn’t make this stuff up!
Pro6,974 posts
04 Oct 2021, 00:45
#27
04 Oct 2021, 00:45#27
Unter-O played centre? It really doesn't show in his rugby acumen. From the photo I would have thought a dumpy hooker, but never centre. This is very amusing to me!
Captain30,741 posts
04 Oct 2021, 00:55
#28
04 Oct 2021, 00:55#28
With Lood all you see are the negatives much like those that do with Willie, they see the dropped balls or poor passes without recognising his vision value.
You will say the same about me and Mostert but unfortunately there is no getting away from the fact that he lacks the physical attributes to make a test lock or blindside. I acknowledge his heart and energy but equally he irritates the crap out of me for not turning himself into the finished article by spending hours in the gym. Imagine how handy he would have been had he added 10kg to his frame.
Lood is not muscle bound but he is naturally a big guy at 125kg and that makes a difference in the engine room, making clear outs, carrying in traffic. Mostert just can’t do that and it’s not only me who has pointed his physical deficiencies out - it was Draad or Pakie the other day.
I just don’t understand how you do not see this. At least you are not so stupid as to maintain that Kwagga is more physical than PSDT like dumb omelette does.
I’m disappointed in Rassie and co that they obviously initially realised Mostert lacked the physical edge in the WC only to resort back to him against the Lions when RG, Lood and PSDT were not available only to once again realise he was not up to starting.
It’s all this crap about knowing the system and not investing in a worthy player like Jason Jenkins. Shit if you have Eben and RG starting you want a Lood or Jenkins replacing them from the bench
Bottom line is you are never going to change your mind on Lood, PSDT and de Allende just like I won’t on Mostett and the present day Frans Steyn
Pro6,974 posts
04 Oct 2021, 02:00
#29
04 Oct 2021, 02:00#29
Lood is easily dominated physically. The man is heavy, not strong.
Captain49,914 posts
04 Oct 2021, 03:08
#30
04 Oct 2021, 03:08#30
Bottom line Dave, stick with moz for the good steer.
Captain30,741 posts
04 Oct 2021, 08:33
#31
04 Oct 2021, 08:33#31
Moz with all due respect I’d not be a happy rugby follower if I stuck with you.
I’d have to be questioning my grasp of the game if I thought Mostert made a physical contribution or that Frans was still agile and quick enough to play test rugby but worst of all not rating class acts like PSDT, Kitshoff, Malherbe, Lood, Kolisi, the du Preez twins, de Allende, Kriel, Nkosi, Goosen, Reinach, Thomas, Ox, etc etc etc etc
Captain18,117 posts
04 Oct 2021, 09:40
#32
04 Oct 2021, 09:40#32
Wehe . . . so here we have O&O . . . the two chumps who have been trashing the Springboks and all the players (other than their beloved idol Eben) . . . trying to pretend they haven't got huge amounts of egg sliding down their stupid faces and spitting venom at all the players they got wrong . . . which is pretty much everyone!
LMAO!
Captain49,914 posts
04 Oct 2021, 19:47
#33
04 Oct 2021, 19:47#33
Egg? When the Boks went down 3 times and finished 3rd in the RC. Nope Aug and I were among the few who saw the flaws.
Pro6,974 posts
04 Oct 2021, 20:05
#34
04 Oct 2021, 20:05#34
I got it wrong? Who said that the All Blacks wouldn't be running all over the Boks? I called both tests accurately. The nature of the second All Black test I called before the Boks had even left for Australia. Once again, Omlett and Unteromlett jump the gun, only to trip over their own feet. But that's okay, Omlett (AKA Floppy Green Pepper) has found himself on the floor next to his chum, "Big Guy". A quiver runs down his spine in anticipation...
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