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Saffex how in the world can you be recommending Marcell Coetzee for the Boks!!

Started by Beeno156 REPLIES878 VIEWS· 25 Sept 2018, 13:28
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Sept 2018, 13:28
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i watched the Ulster/ Cheetahs match yesterday. The commentator mentioned that Marcel had played 5 games in two years for Ulster. Marcel had his left leg heavily bandaged and showed absolutely nothing to suggest he was a Bok contender. He showed about zero and then was subbed.


No one can on this form safely disregard Marcel and wait to see if he can still play rugby. Very disappointing after the big build up by Saffex!!!





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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
25 Sept 2018, 13:35
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25 Sept 2018, 13:35#2

I didn't see that game, but I did see him play the Kings. He did play well. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Sept 2018, 13:42
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25 Sept 2018, 13:42#3

I think that the first game after a long injury lay-off results in an amazing performance and the second game is often a  let-down.   A typical example was Etzebeth in the first English test in June - a week later he was much less noticeable in the second test.

I think the same thing happened to Coetzee - he was dominating the game in the first match and was struggling in the second match,

I would much rather see how the rest of his performances develops throughout the season before taking a final stand on Coetzee.  

   

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Sept 2018, 13:45
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25 Sept 2018, 13:45#4

Well Organhuffer if you say so! But given your weird take on Allende, Lood and du Toit maybe i will need further corroboration!

Has the guy got any pace? What exactly did he do. Against the Cheeta hs he was totally nondescript!

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
25 Sept 2018, 14:32
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25 Sept 2018, 14:32#5

I'm doing my bit for the community by keeping you flying right, Herr Sitzsack. I know you get a little lost in the details.


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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
25 Sept 2018, 21:05
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25 Sept 2018, 21:05#6
Beenkop stop being so fucking rugby ignorant as usual. I take it you missed his previous match where he was MOM
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Sept 2018, 21:09
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25 Sept 2018, 21:09#7

Yes Snapster i did miss that match so all i can report on is his awful display against the Cheetahs. Well lets see how he goes.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Sept 2018, 21:11
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25 Sept 2018, 21:11#8
Mom against the Kings.....whooopee! This player has always been hyped....never really delivered.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
25 Sept 2018, 21:35
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25 Sept 2018, 21:35#9
Beenkop what about his performance was awful you lying twit - I saw the game Moz every player in your books is hyped. My guess is the last time you saw Marcel playing was for the Sharks, so your take is worth zip. You think Louw is a good loose now that is hyped if ever we saw it but you always back the crap
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Sept 2018, 22:10
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25 Sept 2018, 22:10#10
Louw made the second most turnovers at WC 2015....Coetzee has basically done zip. Spot the difference.
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BrycyPro4,671 posts
25 Sept 2018, 22:19
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25 Sept 2018, 22:19#11

Coetzee is out injured again...

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sharkbokCaptain23,253 posts
25 Sept 2018, 23:00
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25 Sept 2018, 23:00#12
Ideally, all the injury prone players should be sold to the Pro 14 teams overseas. Pretty frustrating to see SA players representing other clubs- instead of SA ones.
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
26 Sept 2018, 08:49
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26 Sept 2018, 08:49#13

I've never been a fan of Coetzee, in fact, I was one of the very few in 2012 who called out some of his weaknesses. Very well received I might add. 

He was good against the Kings, a side that had a pretty strong counter ruck. Not a weak side by any stretch of the imagination. As a pilfer? On the basis of that game, he did look more effective. However, he was shadowing fellow defenders looking for opportunities. In test rugby, we'd need him to make those tackles. At least assist. He didn't look particularly strong carrying the ball up. I recall Meyer claimed the reason why he selected Coetzee over Brussow was due to ball carrying. I disagreed with it then, and I disagree with it now. Coetzee would be a useful squad player. That's if he can stay healthy, which is obviously not the case. Ulster certainly didn't get their money s worth. 

Louw started quite well against Los Pumas. The second test was more subdued. Against Australia and New Zealand he looked off the pace. Perhaps the intensity of the All Black test is more understandable. That said there were big errors. I don't know if he is still a viable option, but I'd still go Louw before a healthy Coetzee. We don't have many options.

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XaviPro1,924 posts
26 Sept 2018, 09:31
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26 Sept 2018, 09:31#14
Posted by: Brycy (3953 posts)

Sep 25, 2018, 22:19

Coetzee is out injured again.



He never recovered from Dean Mumms colossal hand off.

Jokes aside, He has had a torrid time with injuries.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
26 Sept 2018, 09:36
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26 Sept 2018, 09:36#15

Hands down the greatest hand-off in history. When he's retired NSW should erect a statue of said hand in his honour. Now let us bow, before it gets us too! 


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Sept 2018, 11:46
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26 Sept 2018, 11:46#16

Coetzee when fully fit was a hugely better loosie than low and Alberts combined.

On the Ulster website the injury to Coetzee was not the same as the case was in the past when he had a number of horror knee injuries,  He had a shoulder injury and there is no indication of how serious the injury was  -  all that was said was he and some other players will not be available for the next game against Munster.

Lets hope for the sake of the player not a serious injury  and he will soon be back.


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