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Schalk and Jean pick best Bok side ever

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
29 May 2025, 08:00
#41
29 May 2025, 08:00#41

Yes, it's called excelling for a reason.


Any other genius you wanna drop on us, Denise?



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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
29 May 2025, 08:26
#42
29 May 2025, 08:26#42

Any other genius you wanna drop on us, Denise?

Other than you?......No!

Hey buddy, while I have your attention.....meant to ask how's the migration to Canada going? You loudmouthed enough about it to sound imminent or are you just loving it in Diepsloot under the ANC?


BLM

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
29 May 2025, 08:41
#43
29 May 2025, 08:41#43

Denise, in any room, anywhere in the universes, at any time, from the beginning of time, and until the end of time, you'll always be the most cringeworthy cockroach of them all.





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MpowerPro5,061 posts
29 May 2025, 09:48
#44
29 May 2025, 09:48#44

While some of Don Bradman's individual records in Test cricket have been surpassed by other batsmen, his overall Test average and batting record remain unmatched. Bradman's average of 99.94 across his Test career is an exceptionally high benchmark, according to the State Library of South Australia. His high average and overall Test aggregate of 6,996 runs continue to be considered unmatched, says the State Library of South Australia.



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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
29 May 2025, 09:58
#45
29 May 2025, 09:58#45

Donald... no helmet ... Bradman

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
29 May 2025, 10:50
#46
29 May 2025, 10:50#46

Denise, in any room, anywhere in the universes, at any time, from the beginning of time, and until the end of time, you'll always be the most cringeworthy cockroach of them all.

Oh that's so very sweet, what a lovely speech.


BLM

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
29 May 2025, 12:05
#47
29 May 2025, 12:05#47

"Transport Bradman to today and give him all the modern day support players receive today and would he average 99 in test matches today - no fucking way"

The main reason why Bradman would never achieve the same batting average today, compared to back when he played, would purely boil down to the technology and scrutiny of the game today, compared to back then when he played.

Bradman never had stumping referalls

Bradman never had catch replays

Bradman never had the LBW mat in use

Bradman never had the Snicko meter in operation

I am in no ways minimising what Bradman achieved, he would have been phenomenal in any era

All I am saying, is if the technology available today was in use back when Bradman played, his average would never be 99.94%

Having said all that, with today's modern bats that are lighter, thicker edged, and have larger sweet spots, he could be even more dominant.

Protective gear would also reduce any fear of playing certain shots, therefore playing more agressively

There is an urban legend that Bradman was also very much aware that the game had changed considerably from when he played, and once apparently commented "I would be satisfied if I could average in the 60s in today's cricket"

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 May 2025, 17:25
#48
29 May 2025, 17:25#48

There’s a fair argument that old rugby players who were smaller to the extent that locks looked more like today’s flanks, would struggle if we had a Time Machine to access their talents.


But in cricket size is not so much a factor. Dale Steyn is 5’10” and his size was never viewed as an issue….Larwood apparently was 5’8”…..would two inches negate a generational talent. I doubt it given many of Steyn’s rivals are 6 inches or more taller than him.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 May 2025, 09:14
#49
30 May 2025, 09:14#49

Mozart


I must agree with you about size of players. I met a chap Nel who was the captain of the Springbok side who went to New Zealand in 1938 In New Zealand they called him a gianmt - but he was only 6'1" and weighed less than a 90 kg, He was a lock forward, Another example from the past is Piet "Spiere" Du Toit who was very strong - but small and weighed only 85 kgs,


I met other rugby players like the Snyman centers and Carl Du Plessis who played in teh 1970's and I was surprised by how small they ere compared to the present players,


There are to my mind three factors that has an impact on size and strength of players that has an impact on Rugby player size and weight, Those are the following:-


  1. In the amateur era the playes got strength from ahrd work on farms and in teh main modern gyms weere not available that promoted strength of players. That situation chanmged drastically by 1995 when teh professionals had more time ti devote to gyms.
  2. Over the last 20 years in particular there was a much change position as to growth enhance diets starting even on school level. Growth promotion medicine is not forbidden and widely used on children from the ages of ten ears and upwards, That definitely had an is stil havong an impact on height of players,
  3. Most top class school rugby players snd ther sport participants are on special diets and theat tgether with regular gym sessions add to physical strength of players/


You refer to Frik du Preez whom I also met and I was surprised how really small he in fact is.


So circumsatcbes in fact changed since Rugby became a professional sport in 1996 and I do believe that the type of picks made by Jean de Villiers and Schalk Burger relate to professional era players only,

Funny enough in a recent rticle one of the players said that Erasmus has forbidden people from having dinner comprising beef and chips because both together are not on the diet list the Springbok players have to complay with - so hambrgers and chips are totally forbidden by the dieticians serving Springbok rugby.

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