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sharkbokCaptain23,252 posts
01 Mar 2019, 02:17
#41
01 Mar 2019, 02:17#41
Steph Dutoit is a good flank on a slow pitch like in the Northern Hemisphere, but on the fast pitches of Japan he might lack the mobility and have too much bulk to close down space and make open field tackles
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Mar 2019, 02:34
#42
01 Mar 2019, 02:34#42
One would swear rugby followers were incapable of formulating their own opinions and that they were only swayed by commentators!!! Aug are you saying Jordie Barrett is toast as far as AB selection is concerned - you are a joke
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
01 Mar 2019, 04:21
#43
01 Mar 2019, 04:21#43

No I am not, as I can quote Hansen as saying they aren't going to discard him entirely. However, they have standards and are honest enough to appraise their players properly. This isn't the case in South Africa. 

As I said, there are numerous instances of the commentators picking out the wrong players during a game, and the fans believing that. Like Andrè's cover tackle against England preventing a try. They called out Damian, even though he was on the other side of the field. I noted a number of these. The fans actually fell for it and a few members actually referenced those comments by the commentators. This highlights a number of issues: 1.Non-existent perception skills, 2.Zero honesty.

Do you think an All Black could concede three tries in a game and fluff all of their tackles and it would go unnoticed? It can take several years for the rugby community in South Africa to catch onto these things. The when it twigs, it becomes a recent issue that everyone apparently knows. Damian is a fantastic example. His standards haven't changed since he entered the pro level. The only thing that changed was that fans eventually caught on, very, very slowly.

Hansen called out Barrett for his mistakes whilst lauding his potential and talent. They'll work on these things and he'll learn. How many of our players improve? How many fan favourites develop? There are too many places to hide in South Aftican rugby. If you aren't one of those who are viciously hounded by the plastics and the media who stole the flames, you can have a nice cushy career for years and 50 Bok caps. It's disgusting to observe. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Mar 2019, 05:21
#44
01 Mar 2019, 05:21#44

Yes Silly Billy

Sometimes you quote what Hansen said and then it is true - other times you claimed in the past that he was talking nonsense.   And then the people in coaching rugby are all wrong and you are right,   That your take is that it takes years for people to cotton on - forgetting that you cannot ever cotton on - because your take on players are twisted by prejudice.   

So the coaches pick fan favourites who are whipped up by commentators and rugby writers.   That Meyer fell for it too at the end of 2014 - in other words he did not know about rugby as much as you do because he picked the fan favourites and did not select teams on merit.

Then there is the statements that -

"There are too many places to hide in South African rugby. If you aren't one of those who are viciously hounded by the plastics and the media who stole the flames"  

So when you say that players can hide out and have a fifty test match career undeservedly unless the "plastics" hounded them,   Who are you to say which players are there because of plastic and media support?   All that can be deduced ever from your writings is that heaven helps the players who in your book deserve selection, and the only reason for them not been selected is  because they are not supported supported by the plastics - who knows zero about rugby and is led by the media.   

I have come to the conclusion that you believe you are always right about players and can twist facts in the process to fit your arguments to benefit your favoured players and coaches.   Everybody who disagrees with you are plastics stupid enough to be lead astray by the media and commentators.   That is the most conceited claim imaginable - but then remember lunatics in asylums regularly claim they are right the rest of the people in the world are the real lunatics.    That is the level to which your discussion on this site has descended.           

    

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
01 Mar 2019, 11:37
#45
01 Mar 2019, 11:37#45
“NZ would not have selected the duds Meyer send to the WC. ” I wonder how silly this is going to look if Ma’a Nonu manages to make the NZ RWC squad...
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Mar 2019, 12:57
#46
01 Mar 2019, 12:57#46

Dunce 

At least Nonu will not be straight out of the hospital ward into the squad.   

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
01 Mar 2019, 15:45
#47
01 Mar 2019, 15:45#47

No media pressure to select certain players? What happened between Schalk and Watson? Morné and Lambie? Jantjes and Monty? Smit and Bissie? Steph/Lood and Matfield? Butch and Pretorius? Goosen and Morné? Pienaar and Du Preez? Heck, before the 2007 WC, the media gurus wanted Juan Smith kicked out of the team, along with Du Preez. You have an exceedingly poor recollection of Bok rugby Mike. Either that or you are very dishonest. I believe both are true. 

As per always being right? Everything is up for debate. You don't have the skills to debate. An exorbitant amount of information is brought to this forum by Moz, Pakie, Cera and myself and you refuse to acknowledge anything. Everything is literally said to be BS. Your base coverage to protect your little bubble. As per Hansen? What I said can be cut and pasted verbatim. Not your little readings between the lines. 

No Mike. Conceited is deciding who can and should post, ordering the mod to suppress numerous members, calling out the forum to boycott other members who you don't agree with. Determining who is and isn't a "valuable member". A dummy spit in other words. I can see years of serving the ANC has rubbed off on you. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Mar 2019, 16:45
#48
01 Mar 2019, 16:45#48

So lets go through the players and see who deserve selection and who were  punted by the media:-

Burger and Watson - there were some political schemers involved prompted by Cheeky,

Jantjies and Monty -  Monty went to Wales for a few years and never really covered in papers

Smit and  Bissie - sure in his last few years before 2011 when Smit was useless

Matfield - every stick would have been better than Matfield after 2011

Goosen and Morne - sure Morne was a disaster after 2012 - totally useless

If one person writes BS in an article it suddenly in your books becomes wide scale support for a certain player.  Just one thing  plastic brain - there are no more critics of media than South Africans and most supporters regard their fumbles as utter BS  only equaled by the tripe you spout on site,.       

   

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