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Scotland Springbok test - Springbok performance assessment

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Nov 2021, 19:20
#1
13 Nov 2021, 19:20#1

15   Willie le Roux                      -         5

14   Jesse Kriel                          -         6

13   Lukhanyo Am                     -          7

12   Damian de Allende             -          8,5

11   Makhazole  Mapimpi           -          8,5

10   Elton Jantjie                      -          6,5

  9   Hershell Jantjies                -          6

  8   Wayne Vermeulen             -           7

  7   Kwagga Smith                   -          7,5

  6   Siya Kolisi                        -           8

  5   Franco Mostert                  -          4 

  4   Eben Eizebeth                   -          9

  3  Terevor Nyakane               -           6

  2   Bongi Mbionambi              -           6 

  1   Ox Nche                          -           6


16   Malcolm  Marx                  -           8

17   Steven Kitshoff                 -           7.5

18   Vincent Koch                                 7

19   Lood de Jager                   -           7,5

20                                                          

21   Cobus Reinach                 -            6

22  Handrey Pollard                -            6

23   Francois Steyn                -            6.5                                                            -                                                        

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
13 Nov 2021, 21:01
#2
13 Nov 2021, 21:01#2

Damian an 8.5? 

Did he even make 1 tackle? 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Nov 2021, 21:09
#3
13 Nov 2021, 21:09#3

But he made two tries and that counted anyway and also two breakdown possession turnovers.     You tell us that he did not so that we can laugh at the joke.   

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
13 Nov 2021, 21:13
#4
13 Nov 2021, 21:13#4

Mike don't be surprised if Allende doesn' t make team of the week again. 

The org will be left purple faced yet again.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Nov 2021, 21:16
#5
13 Nov 2021, 21:16#5

Nope Dud Allende attempted 2 tackles and missed both. He also fumbled the ball once. Credit for the first Mapimpi try although the Scottish wing needed to either come in and make the tackle or let the cover make the inside tackle.

Mostert was a master in the lineouts…including a steal on the Bok line.

Kolisi was culpable in the first Scottish try with a horrible miss on Duhan. I always enjoy Pervie’s ratings they are such a clear indication of everything he didn’t see in the game.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,230 posts
13 Nov 2021, 21:33
#6
13 Nov 2021, 21:33#6

Delande was good. A contender for man of the match. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Nov 2021, 21:36
#7
13 Nov 2021, 21:36#7

BS baffles brains once again.    Because he is such a strong ball carrier the was near enough to De Allende he could tackle him if he breaks through the first defender.   However, that leaves about half a meter space for Mapimpi to use.    The second Mapimpi try  was a master piece of center play - and his line breaking ability was again evident.     

Mostert was nothing in the whole game.   He was poor in line-outs when it came to driving malls and whatever was tried with him on the field was a total loss.   Lood's physicality was far better and the Tight 4 functioned very well with him on the field.   Mostert remain a dead loss in the team.        

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
13 Nov 2021, 22:40
#8
13 Nov 2021, 22:40#8

We shall see. I haven't seen any one of you call these games right, so I remain skeptical . 

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kingcornPro3,695 posts
14 Nov 2021, 01:36
#9
14 Nov 2021, 01:36#9

Not sure if I agree on these ratings. Definitely different to some what has been given on Rugby 365.

Herschel only got a 3 and was apparently very poor with slow service off the base.

Would love to see Reinach start.

Apparently Etzebeth got a 9.

Didn't get to see the full game but our general forward play got a whole lot better when Marx and Kittsboff came on. Wonder when they'll start and actually have your best forwards play a full game.

England will be Epic next week. Think Eddie has been preparing for this game for 2 years now and has a point to prove.

NO time for window dressing with basic Rugby.

We need get out of first gear and fast

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Nov 2021, 02:19
#10
14 Nov 2021, 02:19#10

We now think Dud Allende is great if he runs through space and passes the ball. He did what we would expect of any test centre given those opportunities.

For the rest he was the usual Dud….with the good fortune for the second week in a row of playing against a very ordinary centre.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,230 posts
14 Nov 2021, 03:07
#11
14 Nov 2021, 03:07#11

Marx needs to start next week.
Bongi's form has been solid, but not as good as it was 2 years ago.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Nov 2021, 03:16
#12
14 Nov 2021, 03:16#12

Kinderarten Imbecile 

You have not seen anything positive ever be some players and dream up positive BS about others for years now and the plastics can at least think for themselves  - while thinking by you is impossible.   

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Nov 2021, 07:03
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14 Nov 2021, 07:03#13

Mozart is the silliest imbecile - beaten even the Kindergarten  Imbecile when it comes to rugby total ignorance.   Whenever a player they hate did well in tests . the answer is always the same - the opposition was useless.      That make them really ;look like prejudiced idiots.        

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Nov 2021, 07:04
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14 Nov 2021, 07:04#14


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
14 Nov 2021, 07:13
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14 Nov 2021, 07:13#15

If you are a stalwart of the number one team in the world, you can't be that bad...but some would have us believe that the Boks have a string of poor players....

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
14 Nov 2021, 09:17
#16
14 Nov 2021, 09:17#16

Well, well, well. Once again the Plastiks are put under the microscope and do not pass the test. A consistent trend of not being able to read the game at all, not even at the most basic level. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
14 Nov 2021, 09:22
#17
14 Nov 2021, 09:22#17

Your inability to read the scoreboard is even more astounding. 

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
14 Nov 2021, 09:23
#18
14 Nov 2021, 09:23#18

I can read the scoreboard. But until you read the game, you have no business speaking of performance. You're out of your depth. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
14 Nov 2021, 09:52
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14 Nov 2021, 09:52#19

 

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
14 Nov 2021, 09:56
#20
14 Nov 2021, 09:56#20

I suppose it's either that or cry for you, and that would be a little more embarrassing. Just a little. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
14 Nov 2021, 10:19
#21
14 Nov 2021, 10:19#21

The Org simply lacks judgment. The oaf tries to analyse the game, gets totally confused, his extreme bias kicks in and its an hilarious disaster. 

Learn the game Org. Show some gratitude when Mike, Dave and others school you. 


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BokBFClub Pro421 posts
14 Nov 2021, 10:32
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14 Nov 2021, 10:32#22

I must have been a a different game. To give Hershell and Cobus both a 6 is a joke. Hershell was no more than a 4 watching with 1 eye. Constantly putting pressure on the forwards with poor poor kicks. His delivery and speed at the breakdown is pedestrian. He only makes the 23 as Faf isn't available and is the correct demographic. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Nov 2021, 10:34
#23
14 Nov 2021, 10:34#23
Did Mostert play???
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Nov 2021, 12:43
#24
14 Nov 2021, 12:43#24

Dave 

The only time I saw Mostert doing anything during the game was when eh buggered up whatever was required.    

+    

 

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
14 Nov 2021, 13:40
#25
14 Nov 2021, 13:40#25
The telling part of these DDA discussion is that when he does the very basic things that a 12 is supposed to do, then we put him up for a MOM award. Guy has truly lowered the bar in terms of what we expect from a Bok 12.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
14 Nov 2021, 13:47
#26
14 Nov 2021, 13:47#26

Horse sh!t Plum...he's no Gerber or Jean, but he's a far cry from useless...it's insulting how his lambasted every week...don't  you start too.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
14 Nov 2021, 16:54
#27
14 Nov 2021, 16:54#27

Actually, he is very much useless. Fell over his own feet dumping the ball off to Kolisi. The try isn't scored if 14 simply takes Damian on the outside. In doing so he cuts Damian off from the outside support and the Boks go into a ruck. Very poor defending for both tries, nothing remotely great about anything the Boks did. What makes it worse is that Damian was blinkered running between the last two defenders; there was no reason whatsoever for 14 to turn around like that, exposing his back. 

For the first try, the Scots had no reason to compress so tightly. The Boks were deep and stacked on tbe the outside. There was no POD threat etc. Just poor decision making and communication.

They should be kicking themselves, because they blew the game with dumb mistakes. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Nov 2021, 17:05
#28
14 Nov 2021, 17:05#28
I’d take him over Jean
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Nov 2021, 18:20
#29
14 Nov 2021, 18:20#29

Dave 

I stopped looking at the shit  the Kiondergarten Imbecile and Mozart came up with.  I yet have to come across anything they stated about De Allende and Du Toit was factually correct - the were always twisting what happened beyond recognition.   \

I would reather beleive Pollard when eh said he is the best and cleverest center he ever played with and that includes De Villiers.     But then the two shitwriters have their own deluded opinion and it really just give them an opportunity to spread further shit by responding to them. 

The same applies to Er5asmus as well - anybody who claims that Meyer and Coetzee are better coaches must never be taken as knowing nothing about rugby.       

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Nov 2021, 18:29
#30
14 Nov 2021, 18:29#30

The Duds are a cult.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
14 Nov 2021, 18:53
#31
14 Nov 2021, 18:53#31

Well, a season's worth of rugby, and all we have for Dumbian is running in open space. Any kind of contact or pressure and his is scrubbed out. But, he is better than Jean? Frans? Esterhuizen? Dominated Kerevi? The best 12 in the world? There's being biased, and then there is just being plain stupid. 

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
14 Nov 2021, 19:35
#32
14 Nov 2021, 19:35#32
I don’t get. Seriously, where is the magic?
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Nov 2021, 20:20
#33
14 Nov 2021, 20:20#33

This idiot and Esterhuiozen is a unique combination of incredible stupidity.   the lt time I saw Esterhuizen do anything in a test was when eh ran into a situation where he isolarted himself with all players that would normally have supported him to cover a potential balls loss just being unable to foresee what he did.   And his defense was putrid and ball carries in the amin resulted in ball turnovers.    So I definitely prefer De Allende to him.    

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Nov 2021, 20:20
#34
14 Nov 2021, 20:20#34

This idiot and Esterhuiozen is a unique combination of incredible stupidity.   the lt time I saw Esterhuizen do anything in a test was when eh ran into a situation where he isolarted himself with all players that would normally have supported him to cover a potential balls loss just being unable to foresee what he did.   And his defense was putrid and ball carries in the amin resulted in ball turnovers.    So I definitely prefer De Allende to him.    

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Nov 2021, 21:02
#35
14 Nov 2021, 21:02#35

Enough with the insults Saaiman, try to remember the manners you were taught at school.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
14 Nov 2021, 23:09
#36
14 Nov 2021, 23:09#36

The England shoulder charge of 2018. Esterhuizen took the right option. If your technical understanding of the game exceeded that of a chimp with a crayon up its nose scribbling nonsensical gibberish , you'd see why. 

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