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Sharks vs Lyon

Started by Pakie77 REPLIES1,173 VIEWS· 06 Apr 2025, 18:40
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Apr 2025, 19:54
#41
06 Apr 2025, 19:54#41

You could regret this Pakie

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
06 Apr 2025, 19:57
#42
06 Apr 2025, 19:57#42

Okay maybe I'll watch a bit more while having my tea.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
06 Apr 2025, 19:58
#43
06 Apr 2025, 19:58#43

Man the score is still the same even, what are you talking about? Juju is on is he? Shit's gonna get real now.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
06 Apr 2025, 19:59
#44
06 Apr 2025, 19:59#44

This far, I'm seeing the same lack of respect for ball retention.


Sharks get the ball and then throw mad passes and lose it again.


I'm gonna start calling it the Galant effect.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
06 Apr 2025, 20:00
#45
06 Apr 2025, 20:00#45

That looked very forward from Kunene to Masuku.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
06 Apr 2025, 20:03
#46
06 Apr 2025, 20:03#46

Sharks lose their own lineout.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Apr 2025, 20:04
#47
06 Apr 2025, 20:04#47

It sounds more official if you call it the Gelant syndrome….and Lyon scores. Last pass looked forward

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
06 Apr 2025, 20:05
#48
06 Apr 2025, 20:05#48

Bester has looked industrious at 11. Not flawless but at least like he gives a shit.


And a nice try for Lyon.


Man Moz, I dunno, the regret isn't coming yet.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Apr 2025, 20:06
#49
06 Apr 2025, 20:06#49

Patience Julius could turn this around

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
06 Apr 2025, 20:07
#50
06 Apr 2025, 20:07#50

My tea is almost done but I guess since there's only 10 minutes left I might as well see it out. Finish one thing in my life, you know. Apart from my tea.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
06 Apr 2025, 20:08
#51
06 Apr 2025, 20:08#51

Another good carry from Hatton.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Apr 2025, 20:08
#52
06 Apr 2025, 20:08#52

Yes…stick with moz!

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
06 Apr 2025, 20:09
#53
06 Apr 2025, 20:09#53

Juju brings the behind the back flip. Bester at 16 with a good run and Rahl scores.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
06 Apr 2025, 20:09
#54
06 Apr 2025, 20:09#54

Yes…stick with moz!


Hehe, called it

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
06 Apr 2025, 20:11
#55
06 Apr 2025, 20:11#55

Lyon 13 through half the Sharks team but he manages to stop himself in time.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Apr 2025, 20:12
#56
06 Apr 2025, 20:12#56

Three converted Julius tries could win this…

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
06 Apr 2025, 20:12
#57
06 Apr 2025, 20:12#57

Lyon with the knock. Handling has been poor all round.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
06 Apr 2025, 20:13
#58
06 Apr 2025, 20:13#58

One every 2 minutes, no sweat for the Juju.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
06 Apr 2025, 20:14
#59
06 Apr 2025, 20:14#59

Sharks now fancy themselves a bit of scrumming too. Aaand they botch the lineout. Juju can't work under these conditions, man.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Apr 2025, 20:14
#60
06 Apr 2025, 20:14#60

Shrewd tactics…we blow the lineout so we can go for another scrum penalty

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Apr 2025, 20:15
#61
06 Apr 2025, 20:15#61

The tackling is truly pathetic

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
06 Apr 2025, 20:19
#62
06 Apr 2025, 20:19#62

What a shambles.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
06 Apr 2025, 20:20
#63
06 Apr 2025, 20:20#63

I like the chunky girl in 18 for Lyon.


And Mavesere decides Juju is taking too long and runs through on his own.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Apr 2025, 20:20
#64
06 Apr 2025, 20:20#64

Sharks 6 scores a great try ….that lad is quick

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Apr 2025, 20:22
#65
06 Apr 2025, 20:22#65

Cheers Pakie….miserable game, but what the hell.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
06 Apr 2025, 20:22
#66
06 Apr 2025, 20:22#66

Fitting that the game ends with a knock on.


Thanks for the company Moz and to a lesser extent Plum.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Apr 2025, 20:33
#67
06 Apr 2025, 20:33#67

The Sharks are in a desperate need o a fi nctional backline and tha include Masuku amd total failure a 12. Esterhuizen needs ball skills, Today he knocked on a ball - got stripped of a ball and that was typical During the match the Lyon 13 ran at angle into the gap between Esterhuizen and Jueies and bpth just stand looking

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Apr 2025, 20:33
#68
06 Apr 2025, 20:33#68

The Sharks are in a desperate need o a fi nctional backline and tha include Masuku amd total failure a 12. Esterhuizen needs ball skills, Today he knocked on a ball - got stripped of a ball and that was typical During the match the Lyon 13 ran at angle into the gap between Esterhuizen and Jueies and bpth just stand looking

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
06 Apr 2025, 20:39
#69
06 Apr 2025, 20:39#69

A fictional or functional backline?


Not a good game for Esterhuizen, not a good game for most of the Sharks in this makeshift side except a few of the B players like Bester and Hatton who looked like they wanted to prove something. The team still look uncoached.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
06 Apr 2025, 21:24
#70
06 Apr 2025, 21:24#70

Score asb.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
06 Apr 2025, 21:27
#71
06 Apr 2025, 21:27#71

34-21 Blobbie.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Apr 2025, 02:48
#72
07 Apr 2025, 02:48#72

The Bulls managed to play a miserable game but at leas was able to beat a weak team in a Challenge cup Match - the Sharks and Lions were ultra shit, It is also noticeable that the Englisj teams wer not eally up to standard in the European Cup with the winners goin g through to the enxt Round being the followingL-


Toulon

Castres

Munster

Leinster

Glasgow

Nothampton

Bordeaux

Toulouse


4 French teams

2 Irish teams

1 Scottish team

1 English team.


With their win the Bulls is now in the quarterfinals of the European Challenge Cup,




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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
07 Apr 2025, 07:30
#73
07 Apr 2025, 07:30#73

As someone who always thought the SA could be more adventurous in attack, I'd like to reconsider.


They simply can't.


Between the Stormers and the Sharks, it doesn't appear that the have slightest respect for the ball. The amount of times these teams lose possession through simply being braindead and chucking crazy passes and offloads.


I'm not sure if the coaches are egging them on or if they just don't have enough sway over their teams to cause them to respect possession.


It's all at to erratic, frantic and chaotic. Horrible to watch.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Apr 2025, 09:06
#74
07 Apr 2025, 09:06#74

I do not blame the cocches other than for shit selections. If players lack ball skills play amd umthinking actions and dcisionmaking during matches the coaches can be blamed for it, The fact is that looking at the Shks and even Bulls matches this weekend - sa tos ay shit selections plays a massive role in selections but the fact is that top level lack of ball skills and thinking ability they should not be in teams.


Cases where coaches can be blamed are multiple - for example Dobbs insists on playing LIbbock at flyhalf and kicking at goal and fuck around with hie best flyhal to play out of position to ensure Libbok plays at flyhalf, The same type of selections take place at the Bulls and Sharks as well. The Sharks are playing ping pong with their backline selecions and their backline coaching is what one calls birdbrain selecions.


Ball skilles require ball sense and other than Sacha and Willie the backline players playing for SA franchises are total incompetence in those two asppects of the game. I see schoolboys with better ball skilles and sense than our backline players on fanchise leve have - but then their supportes claim Erasmus is a rugby idiot who does not select rugby idiots to play for the Springboks.


So lets go back to 2014 when Ackerman managed to coach a team with less physicality and plenty of ball skills and sense into the top Super Rugby SA team competitor, but Meyer dcided not to iclude any Lions players in teh 2015 RWC Difference - Ackerman was a real rugby coach - Meyer never was one. In the case of White we have anothr deficient coach, White still consider traditional SA rugby as forward dominance only and backline play is never a consideration of his. I will rather put Ackerman in charge of the Stormers and the team selection and performances will show amssive improvement - because Ackerman is a real coach with brains to get the best out of players - while the oher coaches does not come anwhere near to that,


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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Apr 2025, 17:54
#75
07 Apr 2025, 17:54#75

Sharks 6 is a Zimbabwean

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Apr 2025, 23:19
#76
07 Apr 2025, 23:19#76

Pakie - I know 3 French words that describe the Sharks performance on Saturday perfectly, The word is "merde de serpent",

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
07 Apr 2025, 23:19
#77
07 Apr 2025, 23:19#77

"Ackerman is a real coach with brains to get the best out of players"


I love how you overlook Swys.


Mike, Swys was obviously the brains of that duo.


Man that team was good. None of our franchises have even come close to reaching that level. They'd put 40 points on any of the current SA sides. It was a true pleasure watching them operate.


And truly disgusting seeing the Bok side lose to Argentina while the Leeus were thumping the very same side.


I still remember some here saying "The Argies are a different side when they put on the test jersey."


Funny stuff.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Apr 2025, 23:37
#78
07 Apr 2025, 23:37#78

Swys oprobem as coach or assustant was nervous stress that had a series impact on hs usage a a coach oe even assistant coach, Erasmus brought im on board in 2018 and had to let him go on he advice of his doctors, He is back as an advisor.

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