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So the English bookmakers have opened betting on who would suceed Eddie Jones in 2023

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Oct 2021, 03:06
#1
15 Oct 2021, 03:06#1

Jones will apparently retire as England coach in 2023  and the English bookmakers have opened betting on who would succeed Eddie Janes and the odds are as follows:-


Rassie Erasmus – 2/1

Warren Gatland – 3/1

Rob Baxter – 10/1

Scott Robertson – 18/1

Andy Farrell – 22/1

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
15 Oct 2021, 05:00
#2
15 Oct 2021, 05:00#2

Josè? Now that would be funny. Casting our ailment on our foes! 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
15 Oct 2021, 10:25
#3
15 Oct 2021, 10:25#3

Shows how horribly wrong ou Org is about Rassie. He and ou Mozzz have dug themselves a deep hole and o e wonders how they will get out. 

What a blunder it was to trash Rassie and the Boks and then as great success came the way of the Boks to double down on their nonsense! 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Oct 2021, 14:07
#4
15 Oct 2021, 14:07#4

Beeno

This is another case of Idiot Speak by the Kindergarten Imbecile  - he is  totally igmnorant by anything. 

The fact is that the English rate Erasmus very highly -  that is why he is amde the favourite by the bookmakers. 

By the way  Meyer and Coetzee left Erasmus with a totally demoralized lot of players  and he managed  to change them around into a team that would walk through water for him.    If Meyer and Coetzee remained in charge the team would not have reached the WC play-offs. and probably would have remained as the 7th rated team in the world.         

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MpowerPro5,061 posts
15 Oct 2021, 14:33
#5
15 Oct 2021, 14:33#5
That would be very interesting if rassie had to coach England....can’t see him really going for position? I suppose you never know.
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becsPro4,378 posts
15 Oct 2021, 16:43
#6
15 Oct 2021, 16:43#6

Good Lord no. 

I think you’ll find there’s other options you haven’t listed, including Richard Cockerill who has just joined the England Coaching team. 

Of that list, Baxter is my preference. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
15 Oct 2021, 16:59
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15 Oct 2021, 16:59#7

Never in a 100 years would England hire a 1950s throw back,  so thoroughly defrocked as gamesman, as their coach.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
15 Oct 2021, 23:07
#8
15 Oct 2021, 23:07#8

"Never in a 100 years would England hire a 1950s throw back,  so thoroughly defrocked as gamesman, as their coach."

The floor is yours, bet against him.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Oct 2021, 00:13
#9
16 Oct 2021, 00:13#9
Why not bet for him Draad….he da man in your world.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Oct 2021, 04:41
#10
16 Oct 2021, 04:41#10

Why idiots like Mozart and the Kindergarten Imbecile comments on this issue remains indicative  that they are totally incoherent and without any basic knowledge of the game of rugby.     One has to assume that  they regard themselves is right and the rest of the world is wrong.     Would prefer it if they do not comment  on issues they have no knowledge of and just pollute the board with imbecility.       

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Oct 2021, 05:18
#11
16 Oct 2021, 05:18#11

Perhaps you should ask Malherbe’s dog.

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SebPro2,680 posts
16 Oct 2021, 07:02
#12
16 Oct 2021, 07:02#12

Betting on horses is one thing but betting on coach selection is another..."horses for courses" but coaches for England is another...that's a problem...what's the criteria? 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
16 Oct 2021, 08:38
#13
16 Oct 2021, 08:38#13

"Why not bet for him Draad….he da man in your world."

I don't bet, but even if I did, my money would have been on a Pom...I think it's highly unlikely that Rassie would be appointed,  but it's got nowhere to do with his ability...I think an Englishman will and should be the next English coach. 

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
16 Oct 2021, 15:08
#14
16 Oct 2021, 15:08#14

Ever since Johnson England have been actively moving away from their tradition of being a team that was all about the pack, into something more dynamic. They won't move in the opposite direction, and that's what Josè would do. The changes England have nade across the board are reasons why they'll outlast South Africa in the long term, as the game changes quite rapidly. The long term affect of Josè is there for all to see. Meyer wanted to have structures in place to teach our teams at all levels modern approaches and innovations to the game. Not implementing that was foolish. We are a long way off. As teams play more and the high ball proficiency reaches pre-lockdown standard, the Boks will fall further into irrelevance. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Oct 2021, 15:30
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16 Oct 2021, 15:30#15
Kindergarten Imbecile 
Why do you pollute every thread showing up your total idiocy when it comes to rugby issues?   I do not comment on your idiocy and that of Mozart anymore on threads either of the two of you start or  response to first - so do us all a favor and do not waste time with repetitive BS.    
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Oct 2021, 15:31
#16
16 Oct 2021, 15:31#16

Mozart

There is a problem though - Malherbe's dog will know more about Rugby than you do.   

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Oct 2021, 15:48
#17
16 Oct 2021, 15:48#17

It has everything to do with ability or more accurately, with character. After the Chicken Run and Refereegate Hun is toxic. No prestigious team outside South Africa is going to appoint a loose cannon like Harrassmiss now.

I think he knew that when he made the video, but he has already come back to the kraal and likely has little desire to leave it again. Perhaps his health issues fed into all that.


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
16 Oct 2021, 15:51
#18
16 Oct 2021, 15:51#18

Bizarre to the extreme...

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Oct 2021, 15:57
#19
16 Oct 2021, 15:57#19

What Chicken Run dimness?    You have been exposed as talking total shit about that and you also lied about what really happened in the case of Erasmus as coach.   So please let us noit go abck to that imbecility.       

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Oct 2021, 16:44
#20
16 Oct 2021, 16:44#20

Right so explain what is bizarre let alone bizarre to the extreme.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Oct 2021, 17:20
#21
16 Oct 2021, 17:20#21

No….nothing?

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
16 Oct 2021, 18:20
#22
16 Oct 2021, 18:20#22

Your absolute distaste for Rassie...borders on hate by the looks of it...

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
16 Oct 2021, 18:46
#23
16 Oct 2021, 18:46#23

Mozzz and the Org have lost their marbles. 

It's something of a tragedy that they are so unhinged, look so absurd to people not infected by R DS and they don't know it. 

Bookmakers are not given to sentimentality. Making a living depends on them getting it right more often than not. So it looks like Rassie is in with a good shout. 

Bet the England coach earns a packet. 

Everywhere Rassie goes teams improve. MOZZZZ and the Org just can't acknowledge any positives. So extreme are they!!!! 

Never thought I would see the day Mozzz got it all so terribly wrong and then would double down on it. The Org of course has been weird for some time. Imagine saying the Boks are big but weak. Bwahahahahaha hilarious stuff from the nut job! 



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SebPro2,680 posts
16 Oct 2021, 19:05
#24
16 Oct 2021, 19:05#24

Becs has inside information for those who like a flutter...the 3rd favourite at 10/1. The favourite seldom wins in big exposure.

Now that's what they call good odds.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
16 Oct 2021, 19:48
#25
16 Oct 2021, 19:48#25

Hate? Is it hate to correctly identify something for what it is? We can look at it this way: Josè is the genuinely the best Bok coach of all time, as stated, and that the 4/5 wins against top 5 opposition in 36 tests and the poor track record as well as consistently poor quality of rugby (as evidenced by the stats) are pure coincidence or, maybe I am right in saying that we are not as good as we think, and the coaching is rather poor.

Josè knew the consequences of his actions with that video. It was an act of desperation, as he couldn't out coach Gatland. He had to get the ref on board, it was the decisive factor. Sure, great coaching. Leave our ruined reputatio for the next mug to real with. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
16 Oct 2021, 20:00
#26
16 Oct 2021, 20:00#26

Once you've eliminated the impossible...

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SebPro2,680 posts
16 Oct 2021, 20:37
#27
16 Oct 2021, 20:37#27

Bec's choice seems viable, Rob Baxter took over Exeter Chiefs from Pete Drewett and lifted Exeter to win English Premiership and 2 or 3 years later The European Rugby Champions Cup. Both Rassie and Gatland have peaked at high level, Baxter has not and driven to reach higher goals.  

He obviously has the ability to lift up a mediocre Club side to several levels to be Champions.

Logic tells if he can do that with a lesser endowed side he certainly do that at top level. I think Becs being an English lass knows well her own country's rugby, especially as she has Wilko as a friend.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Oct 2021, 23:47
#28
16 Oct 2021, 23:47#28

Hate Harrassmiss…..lost my marbles? Nope I’m simply telling you what any person who has done a lot of recruiting will tell you. Character matters.  And for any group who aren’t coming at this from a Laager perspective, Harrassmiss looks like a loony tune.

England will not appoint him now, nor will any of the top nations. He could get a club position for a club that is desperate to raise it’s performance and not concerned about the flak. But even that possibility is fading.

None of which matters to Harrassmiss….I think he is in Stampkar mode….back to the laager .

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
17 Oct 2021, 06:33
#29
17 Oct 2021, 06:33#29

So he is the favorite of bookmakers for England's top coaching position but his chances are fading. 

Bwahahaha hahaha. Hilarious effort by MOZZZZ. 


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
17 Oct 2021, 06:46
#30
17 Oct 2021, 06:46#30

So he is the favorite of bookmakers for England's top coaching position but his chances generallly are fading as a coach.

Rrally!

Rassie is clearly a man of integrity and character. He has been protesting Crooked reffing and didn't back down or "run away" when the IRB came for him. 


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Oct 2021, 07:06
#31
17 Oct 2021, 07:06#31

Beeno

Nothing you wrote will convince the two imbeciles that Erasmus is a  top class  coach - the attacks by both started years ago  and when he was appointed  as  SA Director of Rugby in 2018 they nearly had a seizure.    The problem was always that they were addicted to Meyer and Coetzee.   Both really failed as coaches - when they were Springbok coaches and when they were subsequently fired by their clubs for gross incompetence. 

The cowardly Kindergarten imbecile vanished from site for three months during and after the WC series in 2019 and then only in 2020 returned to the site  and immediately returned to attack Erasmus.    Mozart  actually was happy with the Springbok WC win and within 14 days after that  continued his attacks on Erasmus and that continued  without change and start the wild claim that the Springboks did not deserve winning the RWC.   

The two had no facts and still have none to support their BS - mostly based on BS and so-called stats provided  by  the Kindergarten Imbecile.    When I  questioned their lies - the kindergarten Imbecile on stats he admitted he lied - but then claims continue in the same vein.     

One cannot convince to rugby idiots about anything  - so let them  be.    You will never change their weird behavior.   I do not comment on the total lack of understanding of the game of rugby - and dos not comment on the issue of pollution of the ite by lies and distortions anymore.                      

 

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
17 Oct 2021, 07:23
#32
17 Oct 2021, 07:23#32
Addicted to Coetzee? My opinion of him since 2004 was that he is not head coach material. Yet, I have correctly identified 2017 as a more successful season than 2018. That's just plain fact. He had a rocky start, but the trajectory was trending up, not down, and with a more functional model overall. Even worse for you is this: You cannot separate the work of Nienaber and leave behind any evidence of quality coaching by José. All that remains are tactical inputs and a shambolic attacking game. That's all. Top tier head coaches don't lean so heavily on assistants or any subordinate. The record speaks for itself: 4/5 wins against top 5 opposition in 36 tests and counting. This is where you spit your dummy out. 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
17 Oct 2021, 12:06
#33
17 Oct 2021, 12:06#33

"And for any group who aren’t coming at this from a Laager perspective.."

As opposed to your ostrich perspective...

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
17 Oct 2021, 12:47
#34
17 Oct 2021, 12:47#34

Careful Herr Draht, you think you are in Australia, with the high ground, but we can all see your bahonkus. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
17 Oct 2021, 13:46
#35
17 Oct 2021, 13:46#35

Leave my arse alone...and nothing to do with high ground...I know I'm in Capetown, but I prefer the Boland platteland...tell me do Saffex and Seb also suffer the Laager perspective...or is it only us Dutchies?

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
17 Oct 2021, 15:42
#36
17 Oct 2021, 15:42#36

You're a Dutchy ? Thought you were a colourt Capie? The wonders of the internet! 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
17 Oct 2021, 16:05
#37
17 Oct 2021, 16:05#37

No, Dutchies aren't Dutch, but you knew that raait?

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AJHPro3,183 posts
17 Oct 2021, 19:49
#38
17 Oct 2021, 19:49#38

All those odds are going to change once the Springboks backline coach drops his application into the mix.


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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
17 Oct 2021, 20:21
#39
17 Oct 2021, 20:21#39

You missed the joke, but that's okay.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Oct 2021, 04:18
#40
18 Oct 2021, 04:18#40

He missed the Joke?   You are the joke  and nobody will miss you.   

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