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So who was our most prolific tackler in 2018

Started by Mozart54 REPLIES3,823 VIEWS· 27 Nov 2018, 22:19
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
29 Nov 2018, 17:43
#41
29 Nov 2018, 17:43#41

Steph missed 31 tackles this season. Mostert missed 21.

Steph made 172 tackles, Mostert 139.

Steph had scores of instances where he was cleanly beaten. These don't show up in the stats. Considering that Rassie used him as the rusher around the fringes, of course his numbers would be high, but is he accurate enough is the question. He had the highest missed tackle count of all our forwards. Those misses which stats don't account for compound the problem further. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Nov 2018, 17:50
#42
29 Nov 2018, 17:50#42

Even Mozart gave up on it - realizing it is futile to make that kind of calculation - since it is not comparable - but you persist with BS.  When will you ever learn!!!!!!! 

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
29 Nov 2018, 18:01
#43
29 Nov 2018, 18:01#43

I'm more interested in evaluating his role and his ability to fulfill that role. It had good returns I some games, bad returns in others. Is he a better lock or flank? Is he replaceable? The only way we'd find out is if Rassie trialled Mostert at 7 and Snyman at 5.

Either way, the numbers are significant. The video review doesn't explain them away either. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Nov 2018, 18:50
#44
29 Nov 2018, 18:50#44
Wrong again Tokkie. If you want to only include tests where both players were on the park it's the 11 tests Mostert played in (Stephanie played in every test). In those tests they both played the full time in all tests, except: 1 Mostert was subbed for 17 minutes in Bargie2...,.so he played for 863 minutes. 2 Stephanie was subbed on in Pom 2 for30 minutes and in Bargie 2 for 33 minutes. So he lost 97 minutes of playing time from the full 880, giving him 783 minutes. Now to the tackling stats......Stephanie registered 134 made/27 missed in those tests, for an average 83.2% success ratio. He made a tackle every 5.84 minutes based on his 783 minutes of playing time. Mostert registered 139 tackles/missed 21 for a tackling success rate of 86.8%....and made a tackle every 6.2 minutes based on his 863 minutes of playing time. So for Mostert's only slightly lower tackles per minute (remember he is playing lock).....you get his quite superior 86.8% success rate vs Stephanie's 83.2% There it is, laid out to exclude games where there were no overlaps...as you requested. Mostert edges it.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Nov 2018, 18:53
#45
29 Nov 2018, 18:53#45
By the way Tokkie your numbers above are a complete balls up.....straighten up and fly right!
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
29 Nov 2018, 20:17
#46
29 Nov 2018, 20:17#46

Haha, what a lot of hoo-ha over what amounts to a less than 1 tackle per game difference. Virtually insignificant.

Point of the thread is Mostert's defensive performance was clearly comparable to that of Steph and should be recognized as such. That's it.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Nov 2018, 20:42
#47
29 Nov 2018, 20:42#47
Right Pakie....but if one doesn't bolt down the hatch, and then weld it shut our friend Tokkie will claim I was manipulating the stats. So now it's air tight.
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
29 Nov 2018, 21:23
#48
29 Nov 2018, 21:23#48
Yep. I'm interested in seeing how he compares players from now on since he's made it clear that if they didn't play in the same game, there's no value in the comparison.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Nov 2018, 22:03
#49
29 Nov 2018, 22:03#49

Mozart

I just made the point that one has to be careful to make sure that comparable circumstances to be used when making calculations are made,  I would always encourage the sue of comparable stats when dealing with issues.

But lets leave the matter there,   Peace - my friend - peace. in this season of goodwill. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Nov 2018, 22:54
#50
29 Nov 2018, 22:54#50
Jeez what happened Tokkie, was the Babotie good tonight? But far be it from me not to grasp the Olive branch.....Pax tecum......hell let's go the whole hog, Pax vobiscum.
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
30 Nov 2018, 05:37
#51
30 Nov 2018, 05:37#51

Nice sentiment Mike, but you have to stop this thing you have going of leading into a discussion with accusations against other posters. It immediately turns what should be a discussion into tedious defensive sparring. Adds absolutely nothing to the board in terms of quality.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Nov 2018, 09:32
#52
30 Nov 2018, 09:32#52

Mozart

How the hell did you know we had boboti last night for dinner.   Really uncanny because we rarely have boboti.   

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
30 Nov 2018, 13:53
#53
30 Nov 2018, 13:53#53

Just stop it.

It's awkward when you guys arent fighting.

Dunno about everyone else but it makes me uncomfortable

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
30 Nov 2018, 15:08
#54
30 Nov 2018, 15:08#54

Especially when the peace talks revolve around bobotie

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Nov 2018, 16:09
#55
30 Nov 2018, 16:09#55
Dinna worry Ploom, it will na last long.
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