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Started by DezertFox6 REPLIES202 VIEWS· 01 Dec 2014, 14:00
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DezertFoxPro2,288 posts
01 Dec 2014, 14:00
#1
01 Dec 2014, 14:00#1

Here we go again, the doomsdayers screaming from the hilltops, groaning wearily. I can see it now, ClevarMike in sackcloth bemoaning the day Morné ever lost us two tests on tour; no doubt we will be hearing it twenty years from now, another collection to Bok fables of rugby mythology. And speaking of fables, did I not warn you all of the perils of playing Lambie? Did I not warn you all that Reinach fell apart under physical pressure against England? Did I not warn you all that the team was vulnerable, that our opponents were honing in on these weaknesses? We got lucky against England, mostly because of their decision making. How can one honestly expect to get the best results without playing your best players? Now we have the benefit of hindsight, the fact is that Pollard and Hougaard were head and shoulders better than a Shark duo that has not lived up to the hype all year. Reinach has the benefit of being a newcomer, but Lambie a veteran of five years, very shortly to be six! The experiment never worked. No team has ever benefited from Lambie at 10, at the very most he is a defensive 15 only because he is, ironically, the safest player under the highball; not because his tackling is anything to behold.

Changes:

  1. Flip is at lock beside Matfield.
  2. de Jongh at 13. Demoting Serfontein to bench duty.
  3. Dropping Jean and doing whatever it takes to bring Frans back. 
  4. Dropping Lambie forever. Bring back Pollard, either as starter with Morné on bench or the reverse.
  5. Never ever drop Habana, ever again! 
  6. Bring back Alberts. But move Coetzee to 6 where he belongs.  
  7. Du Preez will be back next year, Hougaard to be reserve 9. 
  8. Strauss our starting hooker and captain.

These changes will go a long way to solving the problems we have.

BI
biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
01 Dec 2014, 14:50
#2
01 Dec 2014, 14:50#2

OK, so we lose two matches on tour and it is the youngsters who are at fault?


You sound like Meyer, just an excuse to play more drone rugby.  

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Dec 2014, 15:50
#3
01 Dec 2014, 15:50#3

Keep dreaming Lestat......your alternatives are poor.......none more so than de Jongh at 13.......the little man would get sorely exposed at test level. Nice little player in space but a liability in traffic.

 

Imagine selecting Flip over Willemse, PSDT or Lood?

 

When last did Alberts play a good game?  

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Dec 2014, 16:00
#4
01 Dec 2014, 16:00#4
Dave 
Wrong - De Jongh has alredy been exposed at test level and failed miserably.   
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Dec 2014, 16:11
#5
01 Dec 2014, 16:11#5
 Letsal
You must be kidding us with your list of players you provided.  If you are indeed serious you must be relly deranged - sas to sy.
The following are proven failued players and you want them in the team or on the bench:- 
Matfield, De Jongh, Francois  Steyn, Morne Steyn, Alberts, Mohoje
The following are borderline cases:-
Flip van der Merwe,  Hougaard
What do you want to see happening - SA not surviving the round Robin stage of the WC.  S eriously now - your idea o player performances are warped beyond imagination.   
 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Dec 2014, 16:13
#6
01 Dec 2014, 16:13#6

The point is the youngsters like Lambie, Reinach, Stepfontein, Coenie  and Coetzee are not showing any signs of being able to best their immediate opponents in a close game. Nor will they. This is not our usual crop of greats. We can try them in a 100 different permutations they are not the "big image" players that strike fear in the heart of opponents. 

 

 

Did Step beat one backline player and simultaneously execute a clean break in the 14 or so tests he played this year....I can't think of one.

 

Did Coetzee make one turnover on our line all year, when it really counted, like Strauss did on Saturday....I can't think of one.

 

How many times did Lambie screw up on Saturday....at least 6 move stopping goofs.

 

 

When last did you see Reinach pick out the right player and put his pass on the money....hell when last did you see Reinach pass the ball without taking three steps.

 

When did you ever see Coenie break even playing at tighthead against a worthy opponent. When this year did you see him stay straight and take one tiny step forward.

 

I'm not against youth, I'm just not convinced by this "youth"....Reinach is about to be 25, Coenie will be 26 by the start of the S15. They are mid career players and still "learning". The others have had plenty of test opportunities. I suppose Coetzee is the most convincing of those, but he can't perform his basic function, fetching.

 

These are not players you agitate to have in the team.....they are players we pick reluctantly because we don't have our usual tests options. But in some cases we do....like Pollard.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Dec 2014, 20:25
#7
01 Dec 2014, 20:25#7
Mozart
 I do not know what you expect - you hate the younger players and denigrate them, but the older players can bugger up endlessly and you find excuses.   I have not seen one little bit of criticsm for instance of of Matfield ever - and his string of bugger-ups continues all the time.
The same applies to Jannie and the other has-beens that you insist on.   You write books about what certain players do wrong - if your favourites does the same - not a word.   When Morne buggered up in the  Aussie test - his bugger-up was inexplicable - in other words it has not happened before - and the team got blamed for poor defense.  If that was Lambie - a book of condemnation from you would follow.
When you make statements on what occur on the field of play - a reader has to be very carfeul -- it could be and is normally a complete misrepresentation. of what actually happened.   You would invent goofs that never existed and that is the case of Lambie - he made one pass that was not straight at the recicipent - slightly behind him and the recipient had to slo down to take it - what were the other  5 goofs?   
You write about the bugger ups of the younger players - how many goofs did Matfield made on Saturday?   Have you counted that at all.    Do you think that Morne  Steyn struck fears in opponents or for that matter Willem  Alberts, and Jannie du Plessis?   Or Fourie, Pietersen and a whole lot of other players you regulalrly punt.   The NZ commentators regards Morne for instance  as a joke -so what fear does he cause.
It is nice to make unsubtantiated comments on players and get carried away by verbal diarrhea - of wich you are guilty all the time - so all a person can get from you is entrtainment and a good laugh about the garba ge you produce.   


   
    
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