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Springbok 2015 RWC Squad

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clevermike
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Dec 2020, 12:17
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10 Dec 2020, 12:17#1

I have repeatedly mentioned there were UNPLAYABLE players in that squad and for the record here they are:-


Backs:

Willie le Roux; Zane Kirchner; Bryan Habana; JP Pietersen; Lwazi Mvovo; Jean de Villiers (capt); Damian de Allende; Jesse Kriel; Handré Pollard; Pat Lambie; Morné Steyn; Frik du Preez; Ruan Pienaar; Rudy Visagie.

Forwards:

Duane Vermeulen; Francois Louw; Willem Alberts; Schalk Burger; Siyou Kolisi; Victor Matfield; Eben Etzebeth; Pieter-Steph du Toit; Lood de Jager; Bismarck du Plessis; Adriaan Strauss; Schalk Brits; Tendai Mtawarira; Jannie du Plessis; Trevor Nyakane; Frans Malherbe; Coenie Oosthuizen.

The reasons why the players were unplayable varied and included the following:-

*    Some players have played no rugby for up to 18 months  before the RWC ;

*    De Villiers suffered a career-ending injury against Wales and never really recovered from the injury,   There was no chance at all that he would complete the series,      

*    Some players never played test rugby for more than a year before the WC eg  Alberts, Morne Steyn and Kirchner,

*    Some lost their mojo and was in the main passengers when they did play in the series - examples are Coenie Oosthuizen, JP Pietersen, Ruan Pienaar and  lucky not to be highlighted Bismarck as well as Jannie du Plessis .   

Looking at that squad again I stand by my statement - it was by far the worst squad ever  selected by any SA Coach to represent SA in a WC series.

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Chippo
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ChippoPro3,372 posts
10 Dec 2020, 12:30
#2
10 Dec 2020, 12:30#2

You really didnt need a dedicated post for t his Michael.

We all already know who your pets and pet hates are.

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clevermike
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Dec 2020, 13:56
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10 Dec 2020, 13:56#3

Chippo

I have no pet hates  and some of the players I have supported before 2011 and strongly so.    I look at real performances - not the crap Mozart and AO comes up with to discredit the coach and certain players.

Having nothing better to post I thought of this since Mozart attacked me personally when I said it was the worse WC squad ever selected and I thought I would give some background reasons for my comments.

By 2015 the players I highlighted in the main was over-the-hill and going down fast in performances,  and there were a few of the others who were the same.   The fact is Meyer made only reputation selections and in a very few positions when the players he could not f ind any of those he brought in a few new players.   

Meyer did not understand the Lions game plan and although the Lions by 2015 was the top SA team in Super Rugby he did not pick a single Lions player  for the squad,          

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Pakie
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
10 Dec 2020, 15:33
#4
10 Dec 2020, 15:33#4

I've seen this post somewhere before

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Seb
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SebPro2,680 posts
10 Dec 2020, 19:09
#5
10 Dec 2020, 19:09#5

So did it...lol.

Well it certainly has a familiar ring to it.

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clevermike
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10 Dec 2020, 19:29
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10 Dec 2020, 19:29#6

There were various references in other postings - but never a summary as to wjay actually happened.      

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Dec 2020, 23:03
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10 Dec 2020, 23:03#7
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Saffolk
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10 Dec 2020, 23:10
#8
10 Dec 2020, 23:10#8
It’s not a bad squad which reinforces how useless Meyer was as a coach
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Chippo
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ChippoPro3,372 posts
10 Dec 2020, 23:52
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10 Dec 2020, 23:52#9

Mike

I had no idea that Frik du Preez and Rudie Visagie were in the squad?

They must have been a part of the backroom staff?

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clevermike
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11 Dec 2020, 06:26
#10
11 Dec 2020, 06:26#10

Mozart has finally lost the plot and does not realize  what really went on in the 2015 RWC,   

As to Dave -  in reality the situation is that if the 2015 squad  was selected in 2011 they would have been a good enough squad - by 2015 the majority of the elderly players were way below par and should not have been in the squad,

I you look at players like Pollard and De Allende in the 2015 RWC and compare that with their performances in the 2019 RWC anyone  with any logic would realize  how destructive  as a coach Meyer really was,     .         

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