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Springbok squad announced for the remaining RC tests

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Sept 2018, 21:36
#41
24 Sept 2018, 21:36#41

He did go AWOL and did squat in the tests he played in on the EOYT and that is a fact,     He had the worst attacking and defensive stats I have ever seen from any international center.   Meyer took note  of that and never selected him again.

However, De Jongh was also a flop on Super Rugby level.   In 2014 there was only one center in all Super Rugby teams in the series worse than De Jongh and that was the famous Fat Fransie.

Well - I must admit that the two morons can never analyze any player performances accurately and the De Jongh story is just one further proof of that.     

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
24 Sept 2018, 22:04
#42
24 Sept 2018, 22:04#42

No he didn't. He was successful on defence. How many tries did he give away? Zero? How many tries did Damian give away against Australia in 2015? 2,with a further 2 that Australia botched after a clean break through him. There was also Damian's England series this year. He also defended worse against the All Blacks. Then there is JJ, Taute against New Zealand, Butch against Wales, Jacobs against the Lions. These have all been worse. More lies from Freifrau. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Sept 2018, 22:58
#43
24 Sept 2018, 22:58#43
De Jong vs ABs in Wellington de Jongh 0/0 0 0/3/13 53 0 1 1 1 7/1 0 Thirteen runs....53 metres....an offload.....7 tackles, 1 missed. ....... Allende vs ABs in Wellington D AllendeC 0 2 1 2 0 0 0 0 D AllendeC 0 8 2 0 Two runs for 1 metre, 8 tackles 2 missed. .......Duh Tractor vs Oz D AllendeC 0 2 10 14 0 1 0 D AllendeC 1 11 2 Ten runs for 14 metres, 11 tackles 2 missed, 1turnover ........... Not even close Duh is the lowest producing centre with 50 plus tests in Bok history.
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
24 Sept 2018, 23:04
#44
24 Sept 2018, 23:04#44
I'm by no means an advocate of Juan at 12, that wasn't a bad game. Especially considering he had Lambie inside him, Jacobs outside of him, Pienaar at 9, Morné at fullback, and a Bok pack that was obliterated. Juan doesn't need to be shielded with support tackles. He does it all on his own. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Sept 2018, 07:16
#45
25 Sept 2018, 07:16#45

I have a really good laugh about the Mozart BS about De Jongh.  He picked stats from two entirely different games to get at De Allend e and praised De Jongh. 

Why not quote the two tests against the AB's in 2016.   In that test Mozart tried to hide the fact that De Jongh was a defensive disaster and when the real situation was pointed out to him he claimed that the ESPB stats was changed after he wrote his original item.   The problem was he lied about the change being made after he posted the item since I wrote an earlier item where the real figure was given,   

Love it -   the two morons would have been happier of Fat Fransie was called  up.   But their silent wishes were not realized and the hinting of them about De Jongh is really hilarious.   

Hell I sometimes wonder why I actually put up with them on site.  One should avoid delirious idiots and just accept that discussion with them is futile.   But then  they are so funny in their total ignorance about rugby that is really and the jokes are flowing constantly.           

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
25 Sept 2018, 08:35
#46
25 Sept 2018, 08:35#46
It's really simple, why call a fullback or a wing to do the job of a 13 when you have a better specialist available? Kriel is a fullback and Mapoe is just a wing. De Jongh defends better than both, and better than Damian - who happens to be a 13-wing hybrid.
I never saw the test you reference, so I cannot comment on it. It's very possible that Juan had a bad game, just as much as it's possible for there to have been structural problems - a commonly only issue plaguing Coetzee's teams. Only a proper investigation into the test can confirm what truly happened, probably a bit of both. That said, I doubt very much Mozart lied. It's inconsistent with what I have already seen from him. ESPN do update their stats at unspecified times. That Mozart didn't fight the issue further would also indicate this to be true. So it actually works against your narrative.
Also, you don't put up with me. I tolerate you. Discussion is always reasonable. I give everyone an opportunity to express their views without having mud slung in their face. Try it. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Sept 2018, 09:41
#47
25 Sept 2018, 09:41#47

I love your latest posting and laughed out loud.  Mozart never lies in his postings - that really is a screamer.   The man has never written anything remotely near to what actually happened when posting anything happening in games.

He is the real liar on site.  He cannot post anything but twisted BS because he has an agenda that can only be supported by false reports. 

He will always argue against what actually happened though falsehoods and he can be trusted to lie all the time.

However, the same can be said about you - birds of a feather - the two of you.   You said Mozart did not fight what?   He made a false claim that ESPN updated the stats after he posted the false story after it was pointed out to him - but it could never have been the case because under the same thread I posted comments on the issue using  the latest stats before he came along with yet another false report.   

So keep it up and keep on publishing utter BS on site - it really is a cause for real mirth,   Your comment that De Jongh is a go od defender is just another sick joke - he was for years the worst center defender in Super Rugby and making 12 tackles in his last three tests and missing 5 is typical of what he does produce.  That is really funny on par with some of the other BS you wrote.   

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
25 Sept 2018, 10:35
#48
25 Sept 2018, 10:35#48

Juan is one of the more reliable defenders. The Stormers had the best defence in the SH for many ears, in large part of Juan. 13 is the most difficult and important defensive position on the field, yet you tell us he was the worst defensive 12 for years? 

You should stick to picking hookers, because your calls on backline players is absolutely abysmal. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Sept 2018, 10:56
#49
25 Sept 2018, 10:56#49

Ok I will stick to picking hookers - if you stop picking any player irrespective of positions.   I may know more about the role of hookers - you know zero about performance of all players - the BS I have read coming from you is really funny.

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