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Springboks Player Ratings - Second test against the AB's

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Oct 2021, 05:09
#1
04 Oct 2021, 05:09#1

I gave one glance to the rating s submitted by Piss Brain 1 and supported by Piss Brain 2 and realized that they were as per normal spouting BS on site - so here are more reasonable player ratings from reputable commentatrs as refleced in Rugby 365:-


Here are the Player Ratings!

15 Willie le Roux
He had a shocker in the first half and he was eventually replaced at half-time by Francois Steyn. He failed to secure possession under the high ball on a few occasions and one of his dopped balls led to a try for Sevu Reece. He also got knocked to the ground trying to tackle Rieko Ioane, which resulted in a try for Ardie Savea.
3/10

14 Sibusiso Nkosi
He had a try assist in the first half and he also put in a brilliant try-saving tackle on Anton Lienert-Brown in the 32nd minute. He applied good pressure chasing the high balls and he got some more ball to work with on attack this week.
7/10

13 Lukhanyo Am
His no-look pass around his back for Damian De Allende’s try was a thing of beauty. He also applied pressure on the All Blacks into making a mistake in the build-up to that try. He had a couple of good runs and he directed his team’s defence well out wide.
7.5/10

12 Damian de Allende
He was fantastic for the Boks in open play. He had a couple of clean breaks and racked up the running metres with those powerful carries. He was also a brick wall on defence and he pushed the All Blacks back at some of the breakdowns as well.
9/10

11 Makazole Mapimpi
He scored one of his team’s two tries and he got a bit more ball to run with this time around. He chased the high balls well which put the All Blacks under pressure.
6.5/10

10 Handré Pollard
It was another nervy start for the pivot, especially with his goal-kicking. However, he did try to mix things up this week and the ball went wide much more. He threatened the All Blacks’ defence on a few occasions when he took the ball to the line. It wasn’t the best, but it was an improved performance from the Bok flyhalf.
6.5/10

9 Francois de Klerk
It was a tale of two halves from the Bok scrumhalf. He produced some good pin-point high balls and there were some that were not so great. In the second half, he showed what he is capable of on attack with some quick distribution. He varied his play nicely and his vision from the base of the ruck played a big role in Makazole Mapimpi’s try in the 52nd minute.
7/10

8 Duane Vermeulen
He missed a tackle on Beauden Barrett, which eventually led to a try for Savea. But there were a lot more positives for the big man in this game. He was secure under the high ball and finally showed that raw power with ball in hand. He got his team over the gain line on a few occasions and he made more tackles than any other player in his team. He was also a nuisance at the breakdowns.
7.5/10

7 Albertus Smith
It was certainly an energetic performance from the former BlitzBok. He troubled the All Blacks’ defenders around the rucks with his movement and quick runs. He also got stuck into the breakdowns to disrupt the All Blacks’ ball.
8/10

6 Siyamthanda Kolisi (captain)
He was a colossus at the breakdowns and he helped his team win some turnovers. He also tackled like a man possessed and he wasn’t afraid to put his body on the line with ball in hand. He left the field in the 56th minute.
7/10

5 Lodewyk de Jager
It was another industrious performance by the big man. Again, he was great on defence and he showed some great aggression with ball in hand, which resulted in some metres over the gain line.
7/10

4 Eben Etzebeth
He was a key figure in the line-outs. He lost control of the ball in the 33rd minute, which led to Brad Weber’s try in the 33rd minute, but he made up for that later in the game. He produced a great line-out steal in the 69th minute when his team was under pressure. He was also a key figure in some powerful driving mauls.
7.5/10

3 Trevor Nyakane
Like Ox Nche, he was immovable in the scrums and he looked for work in open play on attack and defence. He seemed to draw a few All Blacks when he had the ball.
6.5/10

2 Mbongeni Mbonambi
He showed his strength when he powered through the All Blacks’ defence in the 19th minute, which almost resulted in a try. His line-out throwing was good until his last throw inside the All Blacks’ 22 which went to no one. He was eventually replaced in the 39th minute.
6.5/10

1 Retshegofaditswe Nché
He was solid in the scrums and he had some good carries. he also made his presence felt on defence. He was also replaced in the 39th minute.
7/10

Replacements:

16 Malcolm Marx (On for B Mbonambi, 39th minute)
He was part of a powerful ‘Bomb Squad’ that changed the game. His line-out throwing was accurate, but it was his work in open play that made a difference. He had several strong carries, with one of those coming in the build-up to Mapimpi’s try. He also halted the All Blacks’ momentum with a great turnover in the 54th minute.
8/10

17  Steven Kitshoff (on for R Nche, 39th minute)
The experienced prop was powerful in the scrums and his steal at the front of the line-out when All Blacks were deep inside the Boks’ 22 was a key moment in the game.
8/10

18 Vincent Koch (On for T Nyakane, 39th minute)
Another one who was solid in the scrums and on defence. There was not a lot of opportunities with ball in hand, but his physical presence definitely made a difference in the second half.
7/10

19 Franco Mostert (On for L de Jager, 51st minute)
He gave away two big penalties in the second half, which could have cost his team big time. He did a lot of good work in the line-outs and on defence.
5.5/10

20 Jasper Wiese (On for S Kolisi, 56th minute)
There was not much impact from the replacement forward, especially with ball in hand. Most of his work was in defence.
5.5/10

21 Herschel Jantjies (On for F de Klerk, 66th minute)
The All Blacks were a bit rattled when he ran at them. His passing was crisp, and he made some good decisions as well.
7/10

22 Elton Jantjies (On for S Nkosi, 48th minute)
He was involved in Mapimpi’s try and he slotted a brilliant drop goal in the 77th minute. He was a calming influence in the backline and he was a key figure in the win.
9/10

23 Frans Steyn (On for W Le Roux, 40th minute)
The momentum swung in South Africa’s favour when he came onto the field. He put his team in great positions on the field with some fantastic kicks. His 50/22 kick in 51st minute laid the platform for Mapimpi’s try from a line-out.
8.5/10

 

 


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Oct 2021, 05:13
#2
04 Oct 2021, 05:13#2

Oh dear, he published the Fortuin ratings. You silly fool it’s not Rugby 365’s editorial opinion, it’s one man known for his Stormers  bias.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Oct 2021, 07:51
#3
04 Oct 2021, 07:51#3

At least it is an opinion and not the cocncocted brainchild of two Piss Brains.- who has been known for lying for years,    The fact is that I really laughed when reading Piss Brain 1 wrote  above that Morne Steyn  being . the best defender in the 2013 test  Piss brain 2 raved about.

Morne missed three tackles that day - two of which led to tries being scored by Smith and Barrett - the second one was a classic - Steyn literally slapped Barrett on his back as if wishing him well on the way to scoring his try.   `     

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
04 Oct 2021, 09:31
#4
04 Oct 2021, 09:31#4
DDA 9/10? Can I just ask - who agrees with that rating?
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Oct 2021, 09:53
#5
04 Oct 2021, 09:53#5
Far more accurate ratings
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Oct 2021, 10:09
#6
04 Oct 2021, 10:09#6

"DDA 9/10?

Can I just ask - who agrees with that rating?



9 is too high, but he had a good match...Elton was good and got a 9 too...I don't think any of our players deserved a 9.
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
04 Oct 2021, 10:11
#7
04 Oct 2021, 10:11#7
Lol people are so used to the plodder being the worst player on the field that now he does one or two standard and expected things during a match…and boom he gets a 9. It’s ridiculous.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Oct 2021, 10:14
#8
04 Oct 2021, 10:14#8
Plum I did not realise you were rugby ignorant?
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
04 Oct 2021, 10:24
#9
04 Oct 2021, 10:24#9
Dude, I guess I am. Cos I like Mostert and wish DDA would be dropped. Although I do rate PSDT. Haha
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sharkbokCaptain23,230 posts
04 Oct 2021, 10:47
#10
04 Oct 2021, 10:47#10

The backline ran better when Delande was shifted to outside center, and Jantjies and Pollard combined in the 10/12 axis

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Oct 2021, 11:09
#11
04 Oct 2021, 11:09#11
Bullshit Shark Yes Plum you are rugby ignorant
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
04 Oct 2021, 13:00
#12
04 Oct 2021, 13:00#12

Agree with most of the ratings but I hedge on the 9's and I'd hand Willie a skinny 2 and wish he never dons a Bok jumper again. Nice energy from the Bomb Squad and hats off to Nienaber who was spot on with his changes and pattern of play. 

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
04 Oct 2021, 13:34
#13
04 Oct 2021, 13:34#13

Agree Dense, but as inflated as some of those ratings are, they're a heck of a lot better than the laughable effort of Omlett. 

O&O may as well put up their biased and ignorant player ratings before the game.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
04 Oct 2021, 13:46
#14
04 Oct 2021, 13:46#14

"O&O may as well put up their biased and ignorant player ratings before the game."

Not sure who Omlett is but at times it's painful to read the amount of hate and bitterness directed at certain players most of which is based on ignorance.

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
04 Oct 2021, 13:58
#15
04 Oct 2021, 13:58#15

Read here to understand who I refer to when I say O&O.

It all started when the two clowns were sticking out their tongues and trying to tell me I had omlette on my face, only neither one could actually spell the word . . . which is why I call their little double act "Omlett" (sic) and "Omellete" (sic).

True story!

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
04 Oct 2021, 14:01
#16
04 Oct 2021, 14:01#16

Damian a 9? For those who don't understand backplay, sure, why not a 10. Back in the real world, the backplay was average, and Dumbian was coasting. Pollard made subtle adjustments to increase the speed of our attack. Other then that, it wasn't very good. Also puzzling is that Am was far more effective. I suppose having one's face on the screen makes all the difference. 

Very emotional ratings overall. 

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
04 Oct 2021, 15:44
#17
04 Oct 2021, 15:44#17
Haha had DDA scored another easy try we may have had to give him a rating of 12.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Oct 2021, 16:38
#18
04 Oct 2021, 16:38#18

Look if Dud is a ‘9’…..then Kerevi is a ‘12’ since he is at least ‘3’ rating points better than Dud.

Dud Allende actually looked a little bit like a centre and not a loosie on Saturday, made 2 clean breaks…..but in reality beat only 1 tackler, so the gaps were there and most of his metres were in that one run in space . His try was a nothing burger.

So it’s a bit of lipstick on the pig, but a better class of pig.

Unfortunately with 5 tackles made/2 missed the defensive stats were poor. Overall a 6.5 might be about right.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
04 Oct 2021, 16:59
#19
04 Oct 2021, 16:59#19

This was one of my predictions, and something I talked about in the "The Ultimate Cure" thread: Winning will wipe away everything that happened before. South Africans are very emotional beings, and an odd result here or there will change the perception of an entire campaign. These ratings are a reflection of that disposition. Damian at 5.0 is about, in an attack that strained but was marginally more useful than usual. 

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