Springboks vs Italy - 2nd test 2025

PSDT has been MIA AWOL. Although last time he was injured, he did take a while to get back into form.

Wiese must be in the dog box. Would he even be wanted in the change rooms?

So...how much are we learning from this game?

This far, basically nothing, as far as I'm concerned.

Grant Williams is very good behind a dominant pack

The game has a strange feel to it since the red.

ButtPlug, Rassie and the rest of us are learning a lot without many of the regular starters on the pitch. This is the chance to test different players and combinations, and bring new players through the system to see who steps up.

I'm remembering why I don't mind watching with the sound off. These commentators are insufferable.

Eskom with a good turnover penalty.

Jesus the Boks clearing at the breakdowns is nonexistent. Not one single forward following Esterhuizen in to clean over him.

Slaapman falls down by himself, no need to tackle boys.

That idiot suddenly swerved into Wilco...what a horse sh!t yellow.

I've lost visuals.

Naand ouens....Pakie, SABC 2 is broadcasting the game live.

I got no TV Draad, never watch the thing. En goeienaand.

Dud needs to ‘weave his wand’… he certainly can’t beat a tackle…..toothless

Sacha on…that might add some zip

Esterhuizen should have offloaded to Hooker, but went to ground and conceded a penalty

I stream it on SABC plus Pakie...today,less buggy than the normal sites.

Two brothers with red a possibility….great turnover by the overmatched Italians

Hope Kobus is less Stupid than Jasper.

Reinach box kicking away

Sacha might as well not be on

Another great Dud Toit run…

Can't say this is a great spectacle for the world champions. More questions than answers

Reinach is a major downgrade from Williams

Trump could have scored that try and put a tariff on it!

Dud Toit tries to fetch with his ‘endless engine’ and falls flat on his face

What a mess….but Edwil, Hooker and Wessels who can’t scrum looks good as a hooker.

Did Sasha move to 15 when he got on?

Not to shabby for playing with 1 player short most of the match...Jasper is too stupid to be a Bok.

Yes Sacha was at 15….Moerat can’t be Bok captain he has a voice problem

The ANC likes him.

So the best 10 in SA, after three games this season, has started against the nothing Barbies and then got a few minutes at 15 against the Italians.

Can anybody explain the logic to me?

Draad, you really think Jasper is too dumb to be a Bok?

You can't be serious.

When last has a Bok been sent off for headbutting? It has the hallmarks of Dean Greyling, whos international career was instantly ended.

Jasper will probably get a suspension for a few weeks to months. If this were the World Cup, he would be out of the tournament, and possibly the Boks as well if it were good opposition.

There is nothing to add to what I saw and what I saw was not rugby - it was a shit display in which the Japan team would have beaten the Springbpks and the AB's, Aussies and Argentina with record scores,

I was always am admirer of Willie - but in general I hope it is the last time I see him playing for the Springboks.The same apply to St Esterhuizen - he did pass balls a few times but whenever e tried anything he got penalised and then he did his normal - in the first half the Springboks were attacking five meters out - the ball was assed to St Esterhuizen and he knocked on the ball which any other real center would have scored - once again je did not contribute anything at center so when the Springbok prop was carded St Esterhuizen was moved to scrum as a loosie,

The gods were kind I fell asleep at about miniute 70 - and only woke up after the match was finished - otherwise I would have had a seizure. The last thing I saw was St Esterhuizen carried the ball and then before crossing the gain line got tackled and gave a way a penalty, The last time I saw shit rugby was in the 2013 RWC match against Tonga - but this test beats that one by a mile.

I wish Willie a good retireemntt - he was and remains a rugby great - but there are players Erasmus must not even think of playiing in tests - players like Libbok, Esterhuizen, Moerat and Jasper Wiese are not Springbok and test level players.

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I did not realise Cobus and Jasper were brothers. If Cobus Wiese also head butted and got sent off, It would have been the first Springbok brothers that had done this.

"Jasper will probably get a suspension for a few weeks to months. If this were the World Cup, he would be out of the tournament, and possibly the Boks as well if it were good opposition."

He just put his head to the Italian's head.

That was never a headbutt.

...but as is normal in the retarded rugby reffing world, they play it in slow motion so you can't see how slowly he actually put his head to the Italian's.

I can't actually believe the amateur level of adjudication that happens at the highest level of the sport.

And before some compete pleb tells me "Oh but Jasper should never have done that"...yes I know.

But it was never a red. It wasn't even worthy of a yellow.

It was really stupid of Wiese to move his head like that into the Italian,s head…

He should have known better. He was looking for trouble and he got it.

Not really convinced by the boks performance….like the first test it felt off…

Duplication

If I have to pick a team from what I have seen in the two tests it would be as follows:-

15 Willemse

14 Kolbe

13 Moodie

12 De Allende

11 Van der Merwe

10 Feinberg-Mngomezulu

9 Van de Berg

8 Goosen

7 Du Toit

6 Tshituka

5 De Jager

4 Etzebeth/Wiese

3 All were shit - Find one please

2 Marx

1 Nche

16 Not happy with anyone

17 Not happy with anyone

18 Not h aoy with anyone

19 Snyman

20 Kolisi

21 Wiee

22 Williams

23 Pollard