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Stormers fail Defence 101

Started by Mozart72 REPLIES2,711 VIEWS· 22 Apr 2017, 18:23
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
25 Apr 2017, 10:17
#41
25 Apr 2017, 10:17#41
The forum sheriffs seems to have started creeping out of their wheelie bins.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Apr 2017, 13:54
#42
25 Apr 2017, 13:54#42
is not the forum sheriffs - you have been asked previously to produce rugby comments on the site - yet you have always be more interested to attack other posters and twist the topic under discussion to divert attention from the real topic.    Your weak attacks on me is regarded by me as a joke by a person totally devoid of ideas about rugby.   Best advice - if you cannot logically contribute anything concrete to a thread stay away from the thread  - if you do make a real rugby comment of substance it may just happen that you could be taken seriously.     
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
25 Apr 2017, 14:35
#43
25 Apr 2017, 14:35#43
 Oh you poor soul. Want to count the number of threads that are started with a reference to me in the opening posts or within the first few posts from the top? 
Listen you old hypocritical w@anker, y ou should consider trying to grow a pair and face the same kind of crap that you keep dishing out day in and day out.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Apr 2017, 15:09
#44
25 Apr 2017, 15:09#44
I'll take predictable rugby that results in a 20 to 18 loss.....versus 'creative rugby' last year that resulted in a 57 to 15 loss at home. Of course we could have won that WC semi....we were in the lead deep into the game. . The Lions superiority among our Super teams comes from being a better 'team' ....sure they structure their attacks better and offload better, but that's in large part because they have played together and the patterns have become established. . But many of their wins come from superior defensive organization....also the result of being a team. They also don't neglect old school scrumming, rucking and lineout play. . We had a team in 2015, sure it was old and creaking, capable of bad days like Japan. But since then we have had no team and have lost consistently. .. Nothing that England or Ireland is doing is much different from what the Boks have traditionally done in big games. The try that Du Preez scored against Wales in the WC was classical offload rugby. the big difference is they have teams....we don't.
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
25 Apr 2017, 15:26
#45
25 Apr 2017, 15:26#45
"The Lions superiority among our Super teams . . ."

Superiority? Hmmm . . . I wonder what happened since this:

"The Lions myth is over. Virtually every Lion has been discredited on the Intenational (sic) Stage.....they will finish mid pack. The Sharks will finish higher, but not make the playoffs.

Sharks 5

Stormers 8

Lions 10

Cheetahs 13

Kings 18"


I thought the "Leins" as you called them were going to finish mid pack, Moffie? When did this "superiority" among the SA sides suddenly emerge? Let me guess . . . it was quite soon after the Lions ripped your precious Stompies a new arsehole at Newlands and the likes of you and Baboon-ou were left sputtering "buh-buh-but that wasn't supposed to happen . . . we can't even blame the ref! It's not fair!"


LMAO!


Go Lions, go Sharks and - for this weekend anyway - GO HIGHLANDERS!

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Apr 2017, 15:40
#46
25 Apr 2017, 15:40#46
That from Urinal who just whined . 'April 25, 2017, 15:36:30 Oimatey, I was leading globally at one stage . . . I think after about 5 or 6 rounds. Since then I've stayed in the top 20 but in the last two weeks I've plummeted down to 139th. ' . 139th.......is that even possible. . Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaha......LMAOFY!
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
25 Apr 2017, 15:55
#47
25 Apr 2017, 15:55#47
You haven't answered the question, Moffie. When did the . . . ummm . . . "Leins" suddenly get upgraded from mid-pack to the superior SA side?

Hmmm?

I know you're a manipulative and deceitful coward, but try answering the question rather than simply deflecting attention away from it.

If you want to ask me questions about my 139th place in the Fantasy standings afterwards then go ahead, I'll answer them after you answer my simple question.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Apr 2017, 15:57
#48
25 Apr 2017, 15:57#48
Look if you are not good at predicting just stop.....wehe.....no need to try and justify yourself . Off to golf that gives you a few hours to think up a response.....hahahaha!
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
25 Apr 2017, 16:04
#49
25 Apr 2017, 16:04#49
What a weak-arsed coward!

Still, it was pretty much what I expected.
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
25 Apr 2017, 20:26
#50
25 Apr 2017, 20:26#50
Moffie, s ee my response on this thread where I'm issuing you a very clear challenge and even giving you 10-1 odds because I think you need it!
Let's see if you have the balls to accept the challenge . . . I reckon you'll duck, dive, sputter and dodge because you're a truly weak and rather pointless human being!
LMAO . . . FY!
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Apr 2017, 21:00
#51
25 Apr 2017, 21:00#51
 The dunce is dreaming about how important he is on the site.  Nobody is interested in his useless and brainless comments - mostly without any reference to rugby.   However, one must - I suppose - not begrudge him the opportunity to advertise his rank stupidity on the site.  
The idiot is too dim to realize this is a rugby forum - not a forum to attack other posters in the piss-poor form  he uses.  Have pity on the dimwit please.  
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Apr 2017, 21:49
#52
25 Apr 2017, 21:49#52
I don't need it Urinal....you may want to get closer, I certainly don't. . LMAOFY!
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
25 Apr 2017, 22:11
#53
25 Apr 2017, 22:11#53
 Moz, the Fantasy Rugby on Fox is not strictly speaking a prediction game. You select a team and each player earns points based on performance, e.g. tackles made, tries scored etc.  So you are competing in terms of your ability to select players that will earn the most points based on the criteria Fox uses.
Other comps focus on correctly predicting the outcome, score etc. this is not one of those games.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Apr 2017, 22:22
#54
25 Apr 2017, 22:22#54
Pretty much the same as Fantasy Football I guess.....seems like a lot of unpaid work. But as long as you are having fun.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
25 Apr 2017, 23:12
#55
25 Apr 2017, 23:12#55
Not everyone is willing to pit their wits against fellow posters & 10K others Moz. It takes a man who is comfortable with his intelligence. 
One also has to be unconcerned about turning a financial profit every second of the day. In fact this game only takes about 30 mins a week - if you exclude the gloating after you win
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Apr 2017, 23:25
#56
25 Apr 2017, 23:25#56
How did you come up with 10K?
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
25 Apr 2017, 23:57
#57
25 Apr 2017, 23:57#57
Good attempt at diversion Moz
On one of the screens displaying results I clicked on the "team/p layer" column and the following was displayed along with other results. As you can see he was ranked 10,739th so there are almost 11k.
10739 23 SLETTEW. Crafford
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Apr 2017, 23:58
#58
25 Apr 2017, 23:58#58
 And they are all active?
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
26 Apr 2017, 00:04
#59
26 Apr 2017, 00:04#59
Who knows, some will have dropped out.
PS, there was one poster on our forum who didn't want posts of the Fantasy rugby in the rugby section. We sort of stumbled into creating a discussion for each round of the comp and more or less keeping our comments on that thread (or at least not putting these discussions on all threads) . Out of respect for this poster perhaps we should not post on this thread and instead do it on this thread.
Link to thread
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
26 Apr 2017, 00:04
#60
26 Apr 2017, 00:04#60
Who knows, some will have dropped out.
PS, there was one poster on our forum who didn't want posts of the Fantasy rugby in the rugby section. We sort of stumbled into creating a discussion for each round of the comp and more or less keeping our comments on that thread (or at least not putting these discussions on all threads) . Out of respect for this poster perhaps we should not post on this thread and instead do it on this thread.
Link to thread
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Apr 2017, 00:10
#61
26 Apr 2017, 00:10#61
Many will have dropped out.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Apr 2017, 07:34
#62
26 Apr 2017, 07:34#62
Mozart
There was no creative rugby played against the AB's in the test last year.   Just look at the pivot in that game and then ask yourself if Morne Steyn is capable of creative rugby,   It was even a worse concoction of rubbish used in the WC semi.  
The question is why we have no team as stated by you.   The English in 1997 had no team - yet they had a coach who started to build up a team.   We had to recent coaches - the one pressing over the death throws of the team.   The other one has lost the dressing room and has even less an idea of rugby than his predecessor.
There needs to be a scientific evaluation of players based on performance and those players must be coached in such a way that they develop into a decent squad.   I cannot see how that could happen under Coetzee,   A  coach like Rennie would turn that  squad around in record time and that is a fact as well. 

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
26 Apr 2017, 09:46
#63
26 Apr 2017, 09:46#63
  2009 Super Rugby season: Bryan Habana (Bulls)- second on top 10 try scorers list, one less try than top scorer Nonu. SA team scoring the most tries - Bulls. Flyhalf - Morne Steyn.
2010 Super Rugby season: Gerhard van den Heever (Bulls)- third on top try scorers list, one less try than joint top scorers Rokcoko and Drew Mitchell. SA team scoring the most tries - Bulls. Bulls also scored most tries of the entire competition. Flyhalf - Morne Steyn.
2011 Super Rugby season: Bjorn Basson (Bulls) top try scorer. Bulls had a crap year scoring tries overall but, on list of SA teams, still scored only four less tries than top scoring Cheetahs and one less than second on the list, Sharks. Flyhalf - Morne Steyn.

2012 Super Rugby season: Bjorn Basson (Bulls) top try scorer. SA team scoring the most tries - Bulls. Bulls also scored second most tries of the entire competition. Flyhalf - Morne Steyn.
2013 Super Rugby season: No Bulls in top 10 try scorers. Bulls scored fourth most tries in competition. Bulls scored most tries of SA teams. Flyhalf - Morne Steyn.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Apr 2017, 12:54
#64
26 Apr 2017, 12:54#64
 Sure the Bulls scored most tries in Super-rugby.   Did they manage to score one try more than the other franchises?    In 2013 the Cheetahs  backline scored more tries than the Bulls whole team did.    So start and get your facts correct for a change.   However, the BS defense of Morne Steyn tells us everything.  
Accept that Morne was dropped from the team by Meyer and was a joke in the two come-back tests he played in last year.   He is routinely the bench player for his club.   So hat makes him a top player?
Morne was a donkey-kicker standing so deep in the pocket that he could only make  hospital passes  to players outside of him.   Since he was afraid of taking contact and virtually never attacked the gain line himself, he was from a backline usage perspective a zero on a contract.
It is funny how the Dunce can defend the indefensible and then claim he knows something about rugby - what a farce.         
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Apr 2017, 12:54
#65
26 Apr 2017, 12:54#65
 Sure the Bulls scored most tries in Super-rugby.   Did they manage to score one try more than the other franchises?    In 2013 the Cheetahs  backline scored more tries than the Bulls whole team did.    So start and get your facts correct for a change.   However, the BS defense of Morne Steyn tells us everything.  
Accept that Morne was dropped from the team by Meyer and was a joke in the two come-back tests he played in last year.   He is routinely the bench player for his club.   So hat makes him a top player?
Morne was a donkey-kicker standing so deep in the pocket that he could only make  hospital passes  to players outside of him.   Since he was afraid of taking contact and virtually never attacked the gain line himself, he was from a backline usage perspective a zero on a contract.
It is funny how the Dunce can defend the indefensible and then claim he knows something about rugby - what a farce.         
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
26 Apr 2017, 12:59
#66
26 Apr 2017, 12:59#66
The usual claptrap when you are shown up. Nothing new there.
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
26 Apr 2017, 13:08
#67
26 Apr 2017, 13:08#67
OK, ou Superdrol, have a look at this:
The facts from the 2013 Super Rugby season:Bulls: Tries scored- 41.Cheetahs: Tries scored - 38.
Your assertion:clevermike
 
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Posts: 26180RE: Stormers fail Defence 101
April 26, 2017, 12:54:00

 Sure the Bulls scored most tries in Super-rugby.   Did they manage to score one try more than the other franchises?    In 2013 the Cheetahs  backline scored more tries than the Bulls whole team did. Care to explain how you came to that conclusion?
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
26 Apr 2017, 13:16
#68
26 Apr 2017, 13:16#68
 Ha..... f@kken hahahaha. In addition to the above, check this one out:
"Sure the Bulls scored most tries in Super-rugby.   Did they manage to score one try more than the other franchises?"
The drol agrees that the Bulls have scored more tries and then wonders if they have managed to score one try more than the other franchises. Ypu  just cannot make this sh!t up.
And then he comes up with the pearl that the Cheetahs' backline has scored more tries than the whole Bulls team. 
Eish. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Apr 2017, 14:52
#69
26 Apr 2017, 14:52#69
Ah but were any of those tries from offloads.....these days our rugby fans only wan't to see the offload. A conventional pass is too old school.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Apr 2017, 14:56
#70
26 Apr 2017, 14:56#70
 I said IF BSter.   Fact is the Cheetahs backline did score more tries in that series than the Bulls whole team did.   You can write any rubbish you like - but make sure of the facts first before you come up with a BS defense of the most useless flyhalf that played at flyhalf for the Springboks ever. 
If you tell me that Morn is a good defender then I would just LMAO.   Such an idiot who admits he cannot express an opinion on rugby - but then the BS flows like lava on this site.    
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XaviPro1,924 posts
26 Apr 2017, 15:26
#71
26 Apr 2017, 15:26#71
 https://goo.gl/images/Eh3x9p . Well that didnt work.
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
26 Apr 2017, 17:23
#73
26 Apr 2017, 17:23#73
 Nah Xavi. You are making it too difficult. Remember that it is ou Tokkie that you are dealing with and your post would require him to understand the concept of clicking on the link. 
clevermike
 
Status: Hall Of Fame 
Posts: 26187RE: Stormers fail Defence 101
April 26, 2017, 14:56:54

 I said IF BSter.   Fact is the Cheetahs backline did score more tries in that series than the Bul ls whole team did.
@Ou Tokkie. I asked you to explain how you came to that conclusion. If I wanted you just to repeat your crap statement, I would have said so. Have a look at the 2013 log and explain how the above can be correct. Take your time. I trust that I do not need to explain to you what "TF" is standing for.

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