JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
27 Feb 2016, 18:06#2
3 penalties converted to 2 is the score at the half A decent forward battle I guess you could say.
That wee stormers supporter Beeno not brave enough to show his face or is he just too busy being a Trump-pet?
BEBeeno1
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BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 Feb 2016, 18:12#4
Apart from Kolbe and Van Wyk there is nothing much.in Stormers backline.
I hope Rhodes hasnt left as we need him.
Out at a friends hiuse Jw so cant guide you through the match.
BEBeeno1
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BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 Feb 2016, 18:15#5
Ou brycy.my good frien only a rugby conniseur appreciates right hard rugby.
Too much acohol also causes drowsiness.
27 Feb 2016, 18:16#6
...Bean Brain I agree...rubbish game, not worth watching at all mate
JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
27 Feb 2016, 18:19#7
Brycy, this game reminds me of a couple of Galapagos island tortoises trying to make love
JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
27 Feb 2016, 18:23#8
Beeno, I look forward to your post-game analysis
27 Feb 2016, 18:25#9
...yea mate Super rugby is going down hill at a great rate of knots...has been like some Shakespearean tragedy unfolding before our eyes this weekend..
JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
27 Feb 2016, 18:32#10
I hope it is just a slow start to the season Brycy. I Really don't like the fact that SA teams are not playing kiwi teams that much. Turning Super rugby into local derbies doesn't help develop that game & a lot of the entertainment value is in the different styles of play. Still we have to live with it.
JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
27 Feb 2016, 18:35#11
Kriel comes off after having earned me a grand total of 4 points for my fantasy team
JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
27 Feb 2016, 18:44#12
Stormers score a good try, backs & forwards with Etzebeth flopping over the line for the try. Bulls lost a couple of lineouts & looked cooked.
JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
27 Feb 2016, 18:48#13
Stormers forwards doing a good job overpowering Bulls in the scr um.
JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
27 Feb 2016, 18:58#14
Stormers score on a driving maul & score from 22 meters out. Pulverized the Bulls.
BEBeeno1
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BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 Feb 2016, 23:13#17
JW its very simple really. We need Allende back and Senatla. A backline of Vermaak/ Groom, Du Preez Allende, De Jongh (Alas) Senatla, van Wyk and Kolbe is not bad attack wise but on the small side.
Add in Elstadt into the loose trio and the pack is looking good. Lineouts and scrum good and certainly will give the pap kiwis lots to think about.
Du Preez was the big plus on the day. Eben is by some way the best lock in the world. A wee ab muncher.
JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
28 Feb 2016, 00:02#18
Glad you have come out from behind the sofa now the win is secured for the weee stormers Beeno
I agree Stormers backs are small but they did fine against the bulls in the second half. Not sure if it was bulls incompetence or stormers competence but a win is a win.
Poor wee Eben managed to trip over his own boots & score a try much to his surprise, I am glad his team mates congratulated him as he then realized what he had done. Still, they say brains aren't everything...
Please watch Retallick if you want to see a complete prop in action. Or take your pills and watch Patrick Tuipulotu & watch a star being born
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Feb 2016, 06:59#19
JW
Sorry - but Retallick is not as good as the NZ supporters make him out to be and is definitely not on par with players like Etzebeth and De Jager as locks. Tuipolotu may make it in the AB tram - but is a learner still and may nor come up to the level of Schickerling yet.
Tine to eb realistic - the NZ locks are not the top class players that they are made out to be by NZ supporters.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Feb 2016, 07:53#20
The NZ locks often tend to outplay the Boks. Whitelock was way better than Lomp in the WC semi. Etzebeth and Retallik are close with Lomp some way behind.
28 Feb 2016, 08:24#21
Ol Fat t!ts dof Mike wouldn't know a decent lock if there was one bouncing on his fat t!ts
BObobbok...
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BObobbok...Captain10,129 posts
28 Feb 2016, 08:44#22
Oumaaik, its not only the NZ supporters that think highly of Retallick ....... the current highest paid ABs are - Read NZ$ 700,000 p.a. followed by ...........
Retallick 650,000
Savea 650.000
Whitelock 600,000
Kaino 600,000 .
The AB locks were i.m.o. clear winners over the Bok duo at last year's RWC .
JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
28 Feb 2016, 09:08#23
Good stats Blobbok. I think some SA supporters still hang on to the old idea that a lock has to be a giant & they tend to play down the importance of skills.
Etzabeth is fantastic IMO and is still developing into what will be the worlds best lock. Injury & maybe attitude have been stumbling blocks for him. As for the rest of the SA locks no one stands out.
BObobbok...
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BObobbok...Captain10,129 posts
28 Feb 2016, 10:19#24
JW, thanks. Stats from today's NZ Herald, article by Gregor Paul .............. & you're spot on about Etzebeth, injuries have hampered his progress, but I'm sure (that's if he's not one of em unlucky players continually plagued by injuries) he'll end up being a true Bok legend. ........ imo. Retallick's numero uno ......... for now .
DEDenny
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28 Feb 2016, 11:38#25
Three players who stood up and turned it against the Boks were the two kiwi locks and Carter. The Kiwi pairing lifted another notch stealing the Boks lineout ball at critical times in that quarterfinal.....Mike must be joking if he thinks otherwise.
JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
28 Feb 2016, 11:58#26
Denny, yes Clevermike is showing us his good sense of humor
Good to see Tuipulotu back in the game after operations in the off season. He will push for an AB spot.
DEDenny
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28 Feb 2016, 12:11#27
Bit too early to discuss Bok rugby but hey go ahead and talk up AB rugby.....without Carter you probably need to....
JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
28 Feb 2016, 12:14#28
Plenty of talent coming through Denny but it will be a very different international season as there is a lot of turnover in all teams.
DEDenny
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28 Feb 2016, 12:18#29
Sure, but it will be less of a problem with you guys and the Ozzies than it is with us. Actually think the Ozzies are a more settled national side than the Boks and you guys.
JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
28 Feb 2016, 12:25#30
Denny, from memory I agree that OZ is the most settled of the big three (OZ, ABs and Boks) . They will be a handful as they also are confident coming off last season & based on their performance in the RWC.
DEDenny
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28 Feb 2016, 12:34#31
Think they're in an enviable spot with 4 years to go to the next RWC.....loaded with experience, work in progress with plenty of scope for improvement.....and.....never short of confidence. All Cheika has to do is some tweaking.
JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
28 Feb 2016, 12:40#32
Oz depth has been a problem in recent years so we will have to see how that plays out. Cheika has brought some players into them mix so although I don't like him personally he is developing the Wobblies. Boks have a lot of question marks but I beleive they will be competitive. Of the three teams I would go with ABs, Wobblies, Boks. Argies could get some wins but will be fourth in the pecking order IMO.
DEDenny
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28 Feb 2016, 12:51#33
"Boks have a lot of question marks but I beleive they will be competitive."
Wish I had your confidence...hell, my blokes are still learning how to score tries...and when the CEO of SARU says winning is not a priority because his ass is on the line if they don't have a 50% quota team...ummm... erm....gulp... ...think Houston has more than a problem.
DBDbDraad
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DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
28 Feb 2016, 13:55#34
There is no way the government can force a quota. SARU must just refuse to pick anyone that's not worthy. Let's see if the government has the balls to deny visiting players entry to SA or prevent our teams going abroad. What can the government actually do?
DEDenny
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28 Feb 2016, 14:14#35
Draad...what did you think of the Stormers game?...I watched the 1st half then decided it's the ideal time to cut the lawn
BEBeeno1
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BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
28 Feb 2016, 20:37#36
Please watch Retallick if you want to see a complete prop in action. SAYS JW!!! bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha no wonder ou JW has no clue about locks.
Look Eben is miles ahead off the pap nz locks and Lood beter than anyhting they have. Lood was outstanding and Dr Mozzzz is once again floundering when it comes to locks. Oh it pains me so that Dr Mozz just doent undertand what good lock is all about.
I am looking forward to seeing the Stormers scrum munch up the pap kiwis. The one problem with the Stormers pack is a small hooker and two small loosies.
JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
28 Feb 2016, 21:09#37
Beeno in his House of Delusion in the town of Denial, shouldn't we be concerned?
No worries, looks like Sasuke-san is about to give him a "mental adjustment"
BEBeeno1
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BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
28 Feb 2016, 21:43#38
JW if you have any recall function you will remember how the poor kiwis were even shunted around by the ozzies last year in super rugby . I didnt realise packs could go back this quick via pefectly legal scrumming.Of course suaSUE will try and explain it all away
JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
28 Feb 2016, 21:49#39
I do recall the poor wee boks being shunted back by the Argies Beeno. Many of us congratulated the Boks on this new "strategy" at the time, another Meyer innovation
The poor bulls may have broken the record this weekend though, they were absolutely pulverized in the second half & the only gear they had was reverse.
DBDbDraad
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DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
29 Feb 2016, 06:21#40
Deny, the second halve was much better, but the Bools were poor. Difficult to tell how good or bad the Stormers are. Some potential though.