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Stormers vs Cheeeefs!

Started by DbDraad75 REPLIES884 VIEWS· 23 Jul 2016, 18:57
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
23 Jul 2016, 20:40
#41
23 Jul 2016, 20:40#41
 Bravo Chiefs . Good luck against the Canes . Humiliating .
MA
MachiavelliClub Pro323 posts
23 Jul 2016, 20:40
#42
23 Jul 2016, 20:40#42
 Oh Sh!t, in those 7 minutes the Chiefs scored another two tries... 33 points the better. Please ref - blow the whistle.....
Too late.. make that three tries and 40 points the better.
Pathetic Stormers - even much worse than the Sharks who had to travel and play in really bad weather...
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,265 posts
23 Jul 2016, 20:41
#43
23 Jul 2016, 20:41#43
Ok, I think we can conclude that Robbie Fleck is a pub team coach in a professional job. This may go down as a record as the worst points loss in any quarter-final by a home team. At least Fleck has made some records.
BL
BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
23 Jul 2016, 20:43
#44
23 Jul 2016, 20:43#44
 Shame.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
23 Jul 2016, 20:44
#45
23 Jul 2016, 20:44#45
 Congrats to the  Mighty Chiefs, seems like there wasn't anything they couldn't do today. Stormers were completely outclassed. Chiefs have a few injuries so we will have to see how their depth  is. 
MA
MachiavelliClub Pro323 posts
23 Jul 2016, 20:46
#46
23 Jul 2016, 20:46#46
 @Mozart - The Joker wins the prize..
PE
poi-ePro1,044 posts
23 Jul 2016, 20:46
#47
23 Jul 2016, 20:46#47
 But Dave said there's more talent in SA than the rest of known universe combined and Mike said our forwards are little b1 tches....oops.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 Jul 2016, 20:48
#48
23 Jul 2016, 20:48#48
 Draad I am afraid there are too many pap players in the Stormers.How can they play rugby with wee ntubeni, carr and Notche on the park. That chiefs rolling maul try says it all.
 I have said since the season start Bongi, Ntubeni, Carr, Kolisi and Notche  are not really up. Bongi and Ntubeni make the Bok squad. Marx and Akkers are left out.FACE FACTS SA RUGBY IS IN  A DREADFUL STATE. ONLY THE LIONS ACQUIT THEMSELVES DECENTLY.
In the sad end this is a HUGE message to Stormers. get rid of dead wood. next if you want to compete pick On merit. Go for excellence or perish.
As things stand only one SA plays proper rugby, the Lions. Richer unions like Bulls, Sharks and Stormers are playing poor rugby with limited skills. 
Next season more payers head north. 





PE
poi-ePro1,044 posts
23 Jul 2016, 20:52
#49
23 Jul 2016, 20:52#49
Classic Beeno, highlights the performance of the black players in the squad, says nothing of the toothless performance of most of the white players on the pitch, old prejudices die hard I guess.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
23 Jul 2016, 20:54
#50
23 Jul 2016, 20:54#50
 Beeno, at this point I advise you to congratulate the winners rather than denigrate your own team. 
Chiefs were too good today, at least the wee stormers got off to a good start. Koch scored two tries, that's worth something.
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
23 Jul 2016, 20:58
#51
23 Jul 2016, 20:58#51
 "As things stand only one SA plays proper rugby......."
It is Heyneke Meyer 's fault.
PE
poi-ePro1,044 posts
23 Jul 2016, 20:58
#52
23 Jul 2016, 20:58#52
 Worst stomers performance ever, and there's been plenty to choose from...SA rugby is in real trouble
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
23 Jul 2016, 21:00
#53
23 Jul 2016, 21:00#53
 Chiefs cruise into semi-final with win over Stormers; NZ Herald

Being sent on the road, losing Liam Messam to ineligibility and yet more men to injury - nothing seems to faze these Chiefs.

Dave Rennie's side this morning booked their first semifinal berth since 2013, crushing the Stormers in Cape Town to make a mockery of the adversity they were facing.

The next challenge will be their toughest yet - a trip to Wellington to face the red-hot Hurricanes with a spot in the Super Rugby final on the line. And the difficulty level could yet be raised, given Stephen Donald (shoulder) and Sam Cane (possible concussion) both prematurely left the field.

But the Chiefs have remained unbowed by a mounting injury toll this season, so they're unlikely to start worrying now, especially with the way their attack was firing at Newlands.

The Stormers might be traditionally difficult to break down, and they might have come into the clash with the third-best defensive record in the competition, but that counted for nothing in their first sight of a Kiwi side all season.

It was difficult to guess where the Stormers, in hindsight, would fall on the issue. On one hand, playing New Zealand teams would have undoubtedly left them better prepared for meeting one in the playoffs.

On the other, based on the ease with which the Chiefs ran through them, a success of games against Kiwi opposition would have likely curtailed their campaign well before the post-season.

The Stormers were simply unable to cope with the varying attributes to Chiefs brought to their attacking play, attributes that have been on display throughout the season.

In scoring four first-half tries and racing to a lead they wouldn't lose, the Chiefs' skill set was astonishing, their catch and pass on a different level to what the Stormers were accustomed.

They attacked with pace and verve and, as has been the case all year, their support play is what truly set them apart. Because for every seemingly impossible pass from Damian McKenzie - and there were three in the first 40 minutes alone - the fullback needed a teammate in the right place to maximise on the exchange.

There were some initial concerns for the Chiefs - they certainly didn't want the game to degenerate into a set piece battle, while the Stormers' physicality made them a threat on their rare forays inside the opposition 22.

But all of that was quickly forgotten every time the visitors had the ball in their hands.

Whether it was Brad Weber dancing around the fullback or James Lowe winning the chase for his own prod down the sideline, the Chiefs appeared unstoppable when in the mood.

It was breathless stuff and it extended to their defensive effort, placing an emphasis on line speed and building pressure at the collision. And, worryingly for the Stormers, that led to errors and turnovers, which is often when the Chiefs are at their most dangerous.

Vincent Koch's second on the stroke of halftime - and Cane's subsequent substitution - gave the home side some hope of mounting an unlikely comeback. But once the Chiefs' scrum demolished their counterparts to set up a score for McKenzie, that was virtually extinguished.

But, even with the game sealed, the Chiefs simply refused to relent, crossing for three tries in the final three minutes to leave Rennie wryly shaking his head.

Bring on the Hurricanes.

Stormers 21 (Koch 2, Carr tries; du Preez 2 cons, Thomson con)
Chefs 60 (McNicol, Weber, Sanders, Lowe, McKenzie, Elliot, Koloamatangi, Kerr-Barlow tries; McKenzie 2 pens, 7 cons)
Halftime: 14-34

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MachiavelliClub Pro323 posts
23 Jul 2016, 21:00
#54
23 Jul 2016, 21:00#54
 The Chiefs have sublime skills (like most NZ teams) the synergy and continuity is really well honed.
Sadly for the Stormers there were not a lot of stand-out players.  Schalk (for his age) played at 110% -  Groom is slow, de Allende is useless and the whole backline are clueless. Notche, I think, is better than Kolisi but the Stormers loosies are too slow to get to the loose ball and ineffective in the ruck and mauls..
Chiefs are even missing some star players.. They have a very good chance to walk away with the spoils this year..
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
23 Jul 2016, 21:02
#55
23 Jul 2016, 21:02#55
 The Canes are red hot so the Canes v Chiefs game will be an excellent one, go Chiefs!
Lions will play the Landers, that will be a tough game even for the Lions. Landers have traveled so much I wonder if they know the way home.
BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
23 Jul 2016, 21:03
#56
23 Jul 2016, 21:03#56
Beano, there ai nt many black fellas in the useless Stormers backline, of hoe?
MA
MachiavelliClub Pro323 posts
23 Jul 2016, 21:03
#57
23 Jul 2016, 21:03#57
 @Ceradyne, WTF has Meyer got to do with rugby in SA now?  That is water under the bridge.  His last Franchise is still the most successful in the SR competitions, but for now he has no influence, other than in some one's feeble twisted mind.
MA
MachiavelliClub Pro323 posts
23 Jul 2016, 21:07
#58
23 Jul 2016, 21:07#58
 blobbok
 
Status: Bok regular 
Posts: 1635RE: Stormers vs Cheeeefs!
July 23, 2016, 21:03:12

Beano, there aint many black fellas in the useless Stormers backline, of hoe? 


Silly to extrapolate simply the players Beeno selected - as I said there are some pathetic performances by players who are supposed to be Springboks..
But, as bad as the Stormers were, so good were the Chiefs - they played like they were playing against real competition..

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
23 Jul 2016, 21:08
#59
23 Jul 2016, 21:08#59
 Three out of four aint too bad, congrats to Kiwi teams. Lions deserved to be in the finals and they well and truly beat the Saders today so congrats to them also. All games were entertaining. Will the Lions be travelling to the cake tin? Some excellent games to be played before we know the answer to that one
Go Chiefs!!
BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
23 Jul 2016, 21:08
#60
23 Jul 2016, 21:08#60
 Woosh .
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
23 Jul 2016, 21:16
#61
23 Jul 2016, 21:16#61
Rugby 365
Man of the match: Schalk Burger tried his heart out, but a times he looked like a lone ranger. There was some good intent from other Stormers, but execution was shocking. You can out almost the entire Chiefs team forward, especially those skilful backs - like Sam McNicol, Anton Lienert-Brown, James Lowe and Brad Weber. However, it was the creative ability of Chiefs fullback Damian McKenzie - who had a hand in several of their tries - that stood out above all.
McKenzie continues to amaze.
BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
23 Jul 2016, 21:21
#62
23 Jul 2016, 21:21#62

 ...Bean Brain you dopey yarpy, no need for any racist rants mate.... Notche was actually one of the better players on the paddock and Carr scored a try as a late substitution...Koch also cementing a spot in the Bok front row with that performance,..  but unfortunately for you yr backs just could'nt compete , they were completely outclassed ,totally , utterly and comprehensively...it was a masterclass...Chiefs take a bow...

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
23 Jul 2016, 22:34
#63
23 Jul 2016, 22:34#63
@Machiavelli
 "@Ceradyne, WTF has Meyer got to do with rugby in SA now?  That is water under the bridge.  His last Franchise is still the most successful in the SR competitions, but for now he has no influence, other than in some one's feeble twisted mind."
Uhmmm. That was actually TIC, aimed at a few lunatics around here. I could have dragged in Matfield, Morne and Frans Steyn and maybe Gurthro Steenkamp as well, but that would have made it too obvious. 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Jul 2016, 22:49
#64
23 Jul 2016, 22:49#64
 On the contrary Bricey....Notshe was feeble, stepped a few tackles, but missed half of his own tackles.....he had zero impact at the breakdown. A light, ineffective flank like that would never surface in NZ rugby.
As for Koch, he did a great job scoring  two tries, but his trademark scrumming problems were enough in evidence to underscore his challenges at test level.
Our backs were outclassed. Du Preez is still feeling his way back....Allende is a sieve and Zas makes a ton of mistakes. Primarily though it was the Chiefs ability to get one final man left over that made the first two and last two tries....and distinguished them from the Stormers who couldn't even support the few breaks they made.
BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
23 Jul 2016, 23:20
#65
23 Jul 2016, 23:20#65
 ...well to me it looked more like all yr forwards weren't half bad but all the good work was undone/ sabotaged by yr woeful/ pitiful backs...yr forwards successfully counter rucked and won lineouts against the throw but no creativity in yr backs,... no imagination or attacking flair whatsoever, coupled with an abysmal kicking game, ...lack of playing any Kiwi sides all season showed them up badly...on the positive side it will make a good training video ...
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
23 Jul 2016, 23:24
#66
23 Jul 2016, 23:24#66
Stats on this game are probably not final but here are some interesting selections:
                               Stormers                         Canes
Meters gained           495                                   519Clean breaks                7                                       9Carries                     128                                      87Defenders beaten       23                                       16Passes                     166                                      123Offloads                     11                                         8
Looking at these attack stats you would have no idea the Canes thrashed Beeno's Stormers. The Chiefs were just much more effective on attack. They also were far more effective in strategic kicking.
Defence
TacklesStormersComparisonChiefs7438.5%61.5%118Missed TacklesStormersComparisonChiefs1641%59%23Turnovers WonStormersComparisonChiefs550%50%5

MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
23 Jul 2016, 23:32
#67
23 Jul 2016, 23:32#67
 Back at ya Hasbeeno with that huge dollop of Sader egg and here's another dozen for you to scramble!!Stormers outclassed and suffering from not having any tough games in the lead up.Not sure what all the fuss is about over Fumbles-Steph Du Twat! Ordinary player compared to his locking partner. De Allende proving once again that he is not up to S18 standard let alone Test standard; too slow off the mark and easily stepped by most opposition.Felt sorry for Schalke in his last game at Newlands. Played one of his better games of recent times. Sad way to sign off.Chiefs now have a hard row. Back to NZ and even if they manage to beat the Canes they will probably have to return to SA for the Final! They would have no show of winning that one. Look what happened to the Sharks in 2012(?) when they had a similar travel schedule!Further injuries too to Cane and Beaver to further deplete their resources although Coles looked like he'll be out for a while the way he crawled off at Wellington. Can't see the Landers having much more success vs the Lions than the Saders did but good luck to them.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
23 Jul 2016, 23:50
#68
23 Jul 2016, 23:50#68
Chiefs are a long shot according to the TAB odds:
Canes are favorites; Landers are second; Lions third and Chiefs last. 

These odds may change based on injury reports, etc.
CA
CatalinaRookie12 posts
24 Jul 2016, 00:59
#69
24 Jul 2016, 00:59#69
 Poor Hasbeano. His beloved Stormers given a thrashing by one of the youngest and most inexperienced NZ teams to ever play Super Rugby. The only SA team that plays with the speed, athleticism and skills of the NZ Super teams is the Lions. The rest of the SA teams play old style, boring, predictable 'thugby'. Play as many big boof-heads as you can, kick as often as you can, seek to win games by kicking penalties and drop goals - it's the game that defines SA rugby. BORING! Good on the Lions who have realised the game has changed. As for HasBeano, the self proclaimed Christian, his bitterness, and fascist statements about Black and Coloured players declare him to be nothing more than an angry, frustrated racist and certainly not a Christian. What a sad pathetic prat he is. The other Thing to realise HasBeano is that the number of South Africans deserting the crime infested Republic and making their home in NZ is increasing at such a rapid pace and it's only a matter of time before we'll have All Blacks with SA ancestry playing for the mighty AB's. The difference is they'll be selected for their athleticism, skills and fiield vision rather than being simply a Boofhead. Sanzar disgracefully plotted to artificially have was many SA teams in the finals as possible despite the dominance of Kiwi sides.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Jul 2016, 01:55
#70
24 Jul 2016, 01:55#70
 Very gracious ....so how are your golfers doing?
CA
CatalinaRookie12 posts
24 Jul 2016, 02:56
#71
24 Jul 2016, 02:56#71
Golf is a recreation, not a sport. How are your Rowers, Cyclists and Netballers going?However, given the way all your forwards (excluding the Lions) play like Big Girlies, there's an opportunity that your locks could take up Netball and do quite well. Though, now that NeverBeen Etsebeth has finally had a hair cut he may struggle to get to play for your Netball team. Come to think of it, some of your Netballers may be worthwhile playing in your Super Rugby teams - they're more skilful and athletic then most of the the Boer Boof Heads currently playing. 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Jul 2016, 03:42
#72
24 Jul 2016, 03:42#72
Cyclists ....hmm....one more top 10 Tour de France cyclist than you chaps have this year...given you have zero. Schplott!
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Jul 2016, 05:48
#73
24 Jul 2016, 05:48#73
 Congrats to the Cheeefs. Very well played.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Jul 2016, 06:01
#74
24 Jul 2016, 06:01#74
 Yes indeed, they were superb. 
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Jul 2016, 11:09
#75
24 Jul 2016, 11:09#75
 Funny how some only come to the site to gloat. ..even create a new account to gloat? Well, whatever makes them feel better about something I guess? 
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Jul 2016, 11:09
#76
24 Jul 2016, 11:09#76
Oops double! 
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