Stunned and Amazed ...

Mozart 

Nobody must ever discuss anything with a fool like you.   G et the clip and see whether Pollard in fact slowed down Brown.    That was an invention to slant the whole thing.    Why not criticize Pollard the same way as De Allende.   Not a word about his poor tackle effort - but all hell is lose about De Allende.   Sorry - but you have started off by saying  that De Allende missed the tackle - a normal BS lie.    When it was proved that there was in fact no missed tackle recorded - all the BS theories started off.   

Listen fool - stick to what you know about - rugby is not an item you should comment on.         

LMFAO. Bias galore. 

I watched the Sky Sports English commentary, where the commentator from England said it was a terrible tackle. 

Delande did have a decent game, with his tackle the worst moment. It was like a Naas Botha tackle.

Ja that was a poor attempts and his poorest moment of the match, but not the poorest moment. The two wings leaking tries were worse.

Pakie thanks for the photos . DeAllende's tackle attempt was feeble & clumsy. Be good to see Esterhuisen at 12 ....... there's his Guppy partnership with Amp & Rassie is talking about giving newbies opportunities .

DDA didn't have the worst game, but that's not what been contested here, is it?

In fact the tackle missed by DDA is the easiest to perform on the rugby field, and is considered by the defending player as a big FAT MEAT PIE. All he had to do was effect the tackle, even with the momentum of Brown, wait 0.5 seconds for his quota buddy with No 2 on his back to come thru the gate and contest the ball, turn it over or win his team a penalty. But no, he decides to attempt a pooofta tackle that cost his team. 

Maybe DDA saw Quota and thought, F*ckit, he wont know what to do!

Lol Monster!

Haaaahahaha!!

Well said, Monster.

Mike ... you have GOT to be kidding.

Anyone with eyes can clearly see that it's at least 7m when contact was made. He had more than enough time to take him down ... even with the little momentum Brown had ... but once again, his technique (if you can call it that) was found wanting.

De Allende has NEVER been able to tackle properly. He is not a test match player. He doesn't have the brain power to make good decisions, cannot create anything for his outside man and as we can see by the pic, he can't tackle to save his life.

Simply put ... the man is a liability.  

Unbelievable!!

From the pic it looks like he's trying to strip the ball & as a result thereof  doesn't having a decent hold on the wing, who brushes him off to score a multiple-tackle- busting try .

CC  

The story about that try has been warped by known De Allende haters and the fact that Pollard was the one who actually missed the tackle down-played.  I looked  at the try repeatedly and the tackle in fact commenced with less than 5 meters from the tryline.

However, the fact is that Pakie could have published the follow-up photos which he did not do because they told a completely different scenario.   Mozart  the known BSter on site - started the story off by saying De Allende missed the tackle and when challenged on the score - the follow-up stories to cover the situation  started.   

However - the known BSter has been caught out so many times about lies on site - he is totally discredited already.

Please be noted that I do not support De Allende in this case - I merely tried to give the true situation.    I do not think De Allende used the right technique in defense in that situation - but he made a better effort than Pollard did in that regard.           .     

ouMaaik, I can well believe that you once wus a politician .

Rubbish, Mike. You need to have your eyes checked.

I too have seen the try ... and just as the pic shows, contact was made at least 7m from our line. 

De Allende and his single grey cell thought it wise to tackle the man high ... or as Blob pointed out, strip the ball from Brown ... WITH OUR TRY LINE IN SIGHT!!!!!!!????

How stupid is this man? Typical of De Allende. 

Pollard did him the favour of slowing Brown down ... but even that wasn't enough for the useless De Allende.

I'm starting to wonder whether he has upper body strength issues. Maybe he needs to hit the gym a bit more. 

Kak story - keep it up - you are amusing.    

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaa!!

Feeling like a bit of a tottie ... hey Tokkie?

I would too if I were you.

Mike, how are you still arguing this point?

I have a yes or no question. Did De Allende already make contact with Brown at 7m out or not? Just look at the bloody photo!!! It is plain to see. Everyone on this whole forum can see it. We can't all be wrong. Pollard also missed his tackle, but this debate centers around solid photographic evidence on where De Allende first made contact with Brown. Look, I have never said you were a liar, but based on your replies above you are either a blatant liar, or you are schizophrenic and live in your own imagined world that has no basis in reality.  

Com'n Mike you can do it.

Pollard did miss the tackle, but in fairness, it was a difficult angle to make the tackle. He was at east successful is slowing down Brown

I looked  at the try repeatedly and the tackle in fact commenced with less than 5 meters from the tryline.

So you agree then, weak defense? Making contact with the carrier 7 meters out but the tackle only commences 3 of 4 meters further on?

However, the fact is that Pakie could have published the follow-up photos which he did not do because they told a completely different scenario.

You really want to see it? Because those pictures show the ball carrier warding off and dragging along a defender across a 7m distance to score a try. These make Brown look good. They do nothing for De Allende.

What you don't get Mike, is that the final takedown that happens 2m from the line is of no consequence. Brown by that time is already making a lunge for the line and scoring the try.

Here is De Allende's position at the commencement of the contact. He is not even in a tackling position. He is bolt upright, not getting his body behind the tackle, trying instead to get a hand on the ball while a player is driving for the tryline. He did everything wrong.

And now I'm done with this nonsense.

Soo De Allende is now to be blamed for the last try as per Mozart's new BS above.   That is weird in the extreme.   The liar at it again.   What a prejudiced fool we have here.  I think he has a rreal need to see a shrink.  

Pakie

Thanks for the latest photos - it clearly happened within the five meter area and not as stated by you.  De Allende was clearly trying to get at the ball as I stated above and he did end up not being able to dislodge the ball and ended making al  a low ineffective tackle.  Mistake - but to blame him alone for the try being scored is BS.   .  .

Lets get it straight - the real bugger up was by Pollard in missing totally the attempted tackle  - the hogwash was to try and blame De Allende alone for the try being scored.  

I know you and Mozart are always in cahoots and that is a fact as well - and Mozart is a rabi d dog on site as to his pet hates - of which De Allende is just one.        

Eddie Jones targeted our defensively suspect wingers by selecting his dynamo fullback, Mike Brown at wing & attacking out wide ..... 3 tries to zip, it worked. Ironically, 'twas Pollard & De Allende who deservedly cop the blame for the first .

Anybody thinking Allende cant tackle needs to go to an optician and then watch him play an entire game. Man so BS about this. Hilarious stuff by very ignorant oaks!!! Wonder why there is this awful bias on display. Curious!

Latest pic (tx again Pakie) strengthens the strip theory .OuMaaik, DdA deserves criticism for poor tackling technique, all that you're doing by defending him is digging a deeper hole .

You are just a stubborn fool, Mike. 

The pics tell a story of De Allende's poor technique .. his weak upper body ... and his usual stupidity. In short ... a very poor rugby player ... definitely not worthy of Bok colours.

We all see it.

Look BSter

The weak upper body BS is utter nonsense.  De Allende wiped the floor with both Nonu and SB Willims and that does not show low upper body strength.   

You had the same myth about De Jager and that did not work out either - so come up wit something else. 

w\We have to accept that you have a campaign against certain players and want others to replace them - so any unproven  BS statement is to be expected from you

Mike, Beeno etc

Its not about if he can or can't tackle. He obviously can tackle. He makes hits on forwards often and successfully.

The problem that he has, and what is criminal after his four years as a test player is that he makes horrible decisions...when there really isn't even a decision to make since the options are very straight forward. 

That's what separates greats from good players from pretenders. 

That's what separates Messi and Ronaldo from everyone else. Not skill, not speed, not agility, not anything else but decision making. Here is a situation, what's the best solution? That's why we talk about some sportsmen being geniuses. 

Nkosi and Dyanti are noobs. They can be afforded some leeway for their choices on Saturday. Pollard made the right decision but failed to execute. 

DDA just had yet another brain fart to add to the very many others on his CV and the question is - How many more years of test level rugby does he need before he can be relied upon to at least make the right call on the straight forward situations?

And his decision not to grubber to touch and kill time as well as keeping the ball in ENG territory was another poor one. Though with less obvious outcomes so not the worst possible decision but one that one should be able to rely on a Bok to make if he has a bit of game management nous. 

Jessie Kriel is the other guy who has everything else that it takes to be a good player but just can't make the right decision nearly consistently enough to garner respect. 

Now think of a guy like Crotty. Does he have anything DDA doesn't? Is he faster or bigger? No. What he has is the ability to make better calls on both attack and defence on a more consistent basis.

No..?

Ok, well then explain DDA's decision making going into that tackle considering where on the fiel d it happened.

Kak decisions. 

Simple.

hahaha

"Strip the ball."

Ja nee. 

Great plan.

Strip the ball out of Browns hands and now have a loose ball bobbling around on our try line with England bearing down on it. 

You guys are not only digging bigger hole for yourselves but you're actually making DDA look worse too.

Just stop hahaha

The mere fact that we can all see De Allende make contact with him 7m from the line is no bullshit.

The mere fact that De Allende wasn't able to take the smaller, lighter Brown down over nearly 10m shows he lacks physical strength ... and that too is no bullshit.

The mere fact that he tried to strip the ball off of him, with our tryline in plain sight, shows his stupidity ... and that sadly is also no bullshit.

So what bullshit are you talking about.

The only bullshit that I can find on this thread all come from you. One feeble, desperate excuse followed by another.

CC

Go on - you look foolish with that BS comments - end of story.

The despicable lowlife is back.  He is not even aware that the tackle attempt started within the five meter range as is \shown in the later pics Pakie posted.  Then he had to try and fid another reason for the May try - and guess what - the liar blamed De Allende as well.   Nobody can really sink as low as the habitual liar - so all  he writes is total BS and misrepresentations. 

So Mozart who favours kicking is suddenly against the ball hand-over kicking - that really is funny.   never read any criticism of Mozart on Morne and Fat fransie BS kcicking game - too funny.     

Good points about the decision making.

And a final LOL at the continued assertion that the tackle only started in the 5m zone. How is it possible for someone who watches almost every rugby match that is broadcast to not know what a tackle is and when it begins?

Maybe a definition will help:

Tackle
(in rugby) a physical challenge to an opponent, as to prevent his or her progress with the ball

You guys are being too kind.

Duh Allende didn't have the strength to pull the man down ... nor the technique. 

In short ... his difficulty with "decisions" stems from his lack of intellect. He should not be playing test rugby.

@Moz exactly right?

How could you wanna do anything else but hit him low, hard and into touch?

Putting yourself into DDA's shoes for a moment it's hard to imagine covering for Pollard without naturally going low in anticipation of Brown breaking Pollard's hit. 

Was he possibly anticipating Pollard completing the tackle and getting himself ready to compete over the ball? That's the only excuse I can think of.

Faf, Dyanti, Nkosi, Le Roux and Pollard all put in some great hits though. So did DDA...when he didn't ave to decide how to tackle hahaha. 

Faf's double tackle to turn over possession was such a "hell yeah!" moment. I was sky-fiving and fist pumping for a good while after. The team loves it when he does well too. 

Technically, I think Le Roux has always been a brilliant tackler. At his size he was probably forced to learn good technique. He almost invariable ends up with his opponents ankles pressed together in a death grip. Just the way a tackle should end.

Of the backs that started on Saturday, most are that same type of tackler. It's only really DDA who tends to go in high for the "check how strong I am" hit.

As a coach it must be really tough watching guys do the most basic of basics wrong.

Anyway, I don't think DDA is gonna get many more chances. Not when Am's S harks partner is knocking on the door.

I don't see any reason why Esterhuizen should not get a shot. Him and Am know each other and DDA has nothing that Eaterhuizen doesn't.