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Started by Saffolk 6 REPLIES256 VIEWS· 28 Jan 2015, 00:04
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Saffolk
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28 Jan 2015, 00:04
#1
28 Jan 2015, 00:04#1

All things being equal how nice would it be for a Bok coach to watch these sides in action week after week and from that select his WC squad? Some shuffling needed.


Stormers:


15. Taute 14. Senatla 13. de Allende 12. Odendaal 11. Kobus v/Wyk 10. Swiel 9. Groom 1. Kitshoff 2. Scara 3. Malherbe 4. Kleyn 5. Etzebeth 6. Kolisi 7. Elstadt 8. Vermeulen


16. Mbonambi 17. Kebble 18. Koch 19. Quinn Roux 20. Schrauder 21. Catrakillis 22. de Jongh 23. EW Viljoen 24. Coleman 25. Louw


Cheetahs:


15. Willie 14. Rhule 13. Pat Howard 12. Frans Venter 11. v/d Heever 10. Goosen 9. v/Zyl 1. Thomas du Toit 2. Callie Visagie 3. Coenie 4. Lood 5. Ruan Botha 6. Brussouw 7. Labascagne 8. v/d Walt


16. Cayleb Oosthuizen 17. Maks v/Dyk 18. Carl Wegner 19. Oupa 20. Britz 21. Hendricks 22. Sadie 23. JP du Plessis 24. Sergal Petersen 25 . Prinsloo


Lions: 


15. A. Coetzee 14. Mapoe 13. Hanekom 12. Mnisi 11. Kolbe 10. Jantjies 9. Faf de Klerk 1. S. v/d Merwe 2. Cooper 3. Redelinghuis 4. Jandre Marais 5. Mostert 6. Kriel 7. Rhodes 8. Whiteley


16. Ackers 17. Dreyer 18. Ruan Venter 19. Minnie 20. Schroeder 21. Boshoff 22. Vorster 23. Watermeyer 24. Skosan


Bulls:


15. Visser 14. Jessie Kriel 13. JJ 12. Serfontein 11. Jordaan 10. Pollard 9. Hougaard 1. Mellett 2. Strauss 3. Marcel v/d Merwe 4. Willemse 5. J.du Plessis 6. Carr 7. CJ Stander 8. Arno Botha


16. Malcolm Marx 17. Hercus v/Dyk 18. Jason Jenkins 19. Hattingh 20. Roelof Smit 21. Paige 22. Rohan Janse v/Rensburg 23. Dries Swanepoel 24. Dan Kriel


Sharks:


15. SP. Marais 14. JP 13. Tyler Fisher 12. Esterhuizen 11. Sithole 10. Lambie 9. Reinach 1. Beast 2. Bismark 3. Nyakane 4. PSDT 5. Lewies 6. Coetzee 7. Oosthuizen 8. Mtembu


16. Hadebe 17. Jannie 18. Peet Marais 19. Jean Cook 20. Wright 21. Frans Steyn 22. Heimar Williams 23. Mvovo 24. Alberts

sharkbok
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28 Jan 2015, 00:35
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28 Jan 2015, 00:35#2
Far too many young players that have not proven themself yet at Curry Cup level, let alone SuperXV.
I see some of the new young fatties have been moved around to find places for them in the backlines of all the teams.
Frans Venter is a one dimensional crashball that brings nothing to backline play. He has no skills to make a pass more than 3 metres and does not have the creativity to create a paper airoplane.
One of your old Fatties, Frans Steyn is now on the bench....
Hendriks on the nech for the Cheetas?  He proved he was one of the better finishers in test rugby last year. He outperformed Habana is many of the tests
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Saffolk
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28 Jan 2015, 11:07
#3
28 Jan 2015, 11:07#3

Sharktwat given your take on rugby in general.....I'll take your comments with a pinch of salt.

 

Frans Venter is about as much of a crashball artist as de Jongh is......my guess is that you don't even know who Frans Venter is?

 

Hendricks cant bloody tackle, he is not a test wings backside.......he wont stay in the side long term, my guess is that we wont see him again. Average at best.

 

Yep new boy Etsrehuizen ahead of Frans for now. Frans needs to up his game  

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28 Jan 2015, 21:32
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28 Jan 2015, 21:32#4
Frans Venter the former Bulls Reject? He is a used as a crash ball battering ram at the Bulls, but his few games for the Cheetas confirmed that is what he is likely to do. Easy to defend against. Just having some of their loosies closing the inside, and their outside centre standing close to the inside centre.
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29 Jan 2015, 16:52
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29 Jan 2015, 16:52#5

Bullshit, the lad has a good step on him, he was outstanding for the Baby Boks......not a Bulls reject, he had brains as he left knowing Jan was at the Bulls. He is a quality player.

 

As for centres, name one that dances past players these days given the structured defences in place......centres spend most of their time in traffic these days, its the nature of the modern way.

 

Frans Venter is a quality 12  

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29 Jan 2015, 19:20
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29 Jan 2015, 19:20#6
He was good for the juniors........A level far lower than the senior level. 
An age group consists of people the same age. It is kids stuff. 
Open age group is anyone from 17- 38. (Big difference). 
Most of the juniors that play international level in a set age diviision, are never going to even make it a SuperXV level
To name but a few centres-Any New Zealand centre is much better than Frans Venter. Their Passing skills and running lines are non-comparable. As for running with ball in hand Sunny Bill, Fekitoa, and lots of other names I cant spell or pronounce are much better. 
In South Africa alone, their must be at least 10 inside centres better than Venter. He is simply not SuperXV level player, maybe Curry Cup at best. 
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30 Jan 2015, 00:46
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30 Jan 2015, 00:46#7
 Geez you are thick what part of me saying he was good did you not get? Baby Boks was an addition not the measure - wake up.
Etzebeth, Serfontein, Pollard, PSDT were also good Baby Boks you get the picture.
Frans Venter is a quality centre and ill keep reminding your ignorant arse of this fact throughout the season 
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