04 Feb 2015, 18:52#2
One more sport where steroids and the ability to play for thirty seconds a match are paramount !
Oh...and let's not forget, how deflated was the ball in the Semi that got them to the Final, Mozart ?
CLclevermike
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04 Feb 2015, 19:07#3
A question to the age-demon - what ha s this to do with rugby?
JWJust_win
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04 Feb 2015, 19:29#4
Moz: just imagine what a 67 year old quarter back could achieve.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Feb 2015, 19:50#5
Aha......as long as they allow deflated balls!
04 Feb 2015, 20:07#7
It's not rugby and it's not Matfield.
04 Feb 2015, 20:31#8
I went out with someone who was a Quarter Back ( he also played Rugby and other sports ) Funniest thing ever was when he tried to explain the rules to my Mum, not that she was interested as she hates American Football He was South African though....so I am sorry to tell you that at least one of your number played the game !
SASaffolk
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04 Feb 2015, 20:43#9
Have given it a few goes. Bores the crap out of me. Very few skilled players involved.
Much like baseball.....ever ball you receive is a full toss
MOMozart
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04 Feb 2015, 20:49#10
The athletes playing NFL would absolutely dust those playing the RC for pace and strength....virtually any neutral athletic skill, except stamina. Dream on....dream on you insular clods.
04 Feb 2015, 21:27#11
Yes, they would.....if every match lasted five hours so they could stop for a little rest and swop the players every few minutes so a specialist could pop on and do their thing ! And also if wide ranging drug abuse was legal, rather than covert and everyone could wear full body armour. Until then, I think it best if the NFL players stick to competing against their own countrymen, at their own sport !!!
And to call the rest of the world insular in a post about America Oh boy, you have to say that the lack of understanding of the word " irony " must be catching !!!!
JWJust_win
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JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
04 Feb 2015, 21:33#12
Moz: "Aha......as long as they allow deflated balls! "
Surely not all 67 year old's have deflated balls I have not yet reach that ripe old age & the prospect is not a positive one.
04 Feb 2015, 21:43#13
An American football player would be too tired by the time he get's the chance to run with the ball in rugby.
04 Feb 2015, 22:34#14
Well, less tired when he gets the opportunity to run without three tonnes of padding on
SASaffolk
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04 Feb 2015, 22:45#15
Oh what utter rubbish, that is the biggest load of shit I have read in years. There is no strength in those fat lards who play and what is athletic about any feature of their play.
Rugby players playing NFL would be superstars. NFL players playing rugby would not smell a 1st division side bar the odd few.
The game is a joke. Bunch of fat blokes in armour
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Feb 2015, 22:48#16
Well JW getting old is a constant series of surprises. My grand daughter when she was six put it best when told that a family dog had died because it was old....she said:
"That's why you have to be so very careful not to get old" ... Rather well put I thought.
05 Feb 2015, 01:47#17
Tell us all about Michael Vick whilst you're about it, Mozart....
05 Feb 2015, 07:47#19
Anyone that abuses dogs is a complete coward and deserves their teeth kicked in! As for the topic, for every example of a coffin dodger doing something great in sport, their are ten examples of some spring chicken doing something great! Take Pollard against the All Blacks at Ellis park for example. This topic is pointless! That being said, if an old player is better than a young player, they should play. Once they are no longer better, they should be dragged into the field and shot!
RORooinek
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05 Feb 2015, 08:13#20
I don't know what is more pointless . . . comparing the fat overpaid drug-abusing donkeys of the NFL with rugby players or banging on about the average ages of yet another sport as if it has some kind of relevance to the average ages of rugby.
I mean really, just how limited is one's knowledge of sport in general to put up such an ignorant and narrow-minded post?
05 Feb 2015, 14:12#21
I think saying he abused dogs is putting it slightly mildly, Mozart.
And he is still involved with the NFL.
Look him up, bluebok....you will be appalled.
05 Feb 2015, 18:41#26
Ian Hunter used to run the 100m in 10.4....and you know how long ago he played Rugby ! Christian Wade runs it in 10.5
There is a long list of speedsters....and they keep it up for the full eighty minutes.I know American Football, watched it since I was a kid and, as I said, went out with a QB for a while....he was a Forward in Union, by the by...
MOMozart
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05 Feb 2015, 18:42#27
What you insular clods miss is that each sport develops athleticism appropriate to the game. Would most of these huge rugby players, even the backs, last the 90 minutes of continuous running involved in a soccer gam?. Not likely.
Would a Bok or NZ pack survive the 80 or so downs in football, straining with all their might against another 300 lb man....their muscles would be jelly after 20 downs.
Can the best popular diva last more than 15 minutes of the sheer volume of output required in a real opera....no way.
This stuff I read about NFL players smacks of ignorance. You have a country of over 300 million people that traditionally has dominated athletics....and the biggest paying sport can't attract great athletes?
This reminds me of the stupid stuff guys used to sprout at school that all soccer players are sissies. It's embarrassing that we debate at such a low level.
SASaffolk
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05 Feb 2015, 18:44#28
Ah yeah I'm sure those fat lards are super fit......its a joke.....Etzebeth and co would eat them for breakfast
05 Feb 2015, 18:55#29
Tom Varndell....9.58 seconds
05 Feb 2015, 20:58#31
So Tom Varndell is as fast as Usain Bolt ? Interesting !
Well, Mozart, as you are intent on ignoring my posts, perhaps you could do me the kindness of telling us all what these names have in common.......Lyle Alzado,Tony Madarich,Bill Romanowski,Shawn Springs,Julius Peppers,Pat/Kevin Williams,Charles Grant,Will Smith,Shawne Merrimen,David Boston,Dwayne Bowe......
As for the size of the players, we all know the bigger players tend to have bulked up speedily, which is the most obvious sign of steroid abuse.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Feb 2015, 21:07#32
I suspect you should examine the difference between 100 metres and a 100 yards. There, I have tried to be helpful.
05 Feb 2015, 21:09#33
"There is a long list of speedsters....and they keep it up for the full eighty minutes."
05 Feb 2015, 21:22#34
Tom Varndell ran the 100 metres, you said you couldn't think of any Rugby p,Ayer having recorded that time in an official race. He did.
Yes Ceradyne......take a girls word for it. But speed isn't everything, it can be very disappointing !
RORooinek
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RORooinekCaptain18,117 posts
05 Feb 2015, 21:38#35
becs, where was this Tom Varndell and his 9.58 time originally mentioned? Was it on this thread?
BEBeeno1
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BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
05 Feb 2015, 21:47#36
One good tackle and without all that padding etc to protect them and the NFL lards would be toast. BwahahahahahaIts a dull game and hence has never taken on outside of the States. Hopefully rugby will grow and take over.
RORooinek
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RORooinekCaptain18,117 posts
05 Feb 2015, 22:03#37
It's a crap sport to be sure but it works for the Yanks because the chest-beating, burger-guzzling Yank rednecks are too stupid to know any better and it allows the corporations to ply them with commercials every time the fatties on the field run out of puff and need a break.
JWJust_win
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05 Feb 2015, 22:18#38
I watched the NFL for many years and they are specialized athletes. In general the rugby players are more versatile than many of the players in the NFL but players like wide receivers are not fatties and they are very skilled and fast.
I still prefer rugby - no question about that but I think it is factually wrong to dismiss all NFL players as fatties. Doesn't mean it's not fun though
RORooinek
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RORooinekCaptain18,117 posts
05 Feb 2015, 22:23#39
"Wide receivers" . . . are those the ones who've done some jail time?
05 Feb 2015, 23:08#40
I mentioned it in this thread because Mozart was talking about speeds over 100m
I know a lot of players, even before the pro era, like Ian Hunter, who was a very big chap, could run jolly fast and fast enough to make athletics squads....I remember him going out jogging with the Olympic Athlete Derek Redmond and coming back with a grin on his face as he had thrashed him on the return leg ! He was a supreme athlete, a pleasure to watch in the Gym.....
The worrying thing is, steroid abuse is rife, the bulk up speed of any athlete that is incredibly swift is always the result of drugs. That is the sad reality.Now the players have to get bigger and bigger to try to compete. It's ridiculous.