SXV 2019 - Top South African Ball Carriers
This is another BS story from RPI copied by the idiot and seconded by Mozart. Look at the number of games played to start with. Esterhuizen played two more games than De Allende and he beat 1 defender more than De Allende and made 12 more meters - ie he made the normal clueless deduction.
The Du Toit mania is going on - but there is an obvious reason for that, namely petty hatred by the two most clueless site members.
This is another BS story from RPI copied by the idiot and seconded by Mozart. Look at the number of games played to start with. Esterhuizen played two more games than De Allende and he beat 1 defender more than De Allende and made 12 more meters - ie he made the normal clueless deduction.
The Du Toit mania is going on - but there is an obvious reason for that, namely petty hatred by the two most clueless site members.
And so was a lot of player you always supported for selection. That is your impression based on prejudice and disregard of facts. Mine is based on what actually happened on the field of play. Du Toit is a class act .
Copied from RugbyPass? Doesn't the format look at least a little familiar to you?
Here's a chart ranking these players by average carry.
He would be good cover as a utility back in the world cup squad.
Agreed. Of all the options at 15, he is our most creative spark. Great vision. Can do a job at 10. Nice to see the three wings coming into form, particularly Dyantyi, who looked dead and buried earlier in the season.
Note Duane and Dan.
Correct, Duane was our biggest breakdown threat. The top 10 pilfers this season:
- A Savea 13 Hurricanes
- D Vermeulen 8 Bulls
- A Creevy 7 Jaguares
- M Marx 7 Lions
- L Boshier 6 Chiefs
- K Smith 6 Lions
- S Cane 5 Chiefs
- M Todd 5 Crusaders
- L Am 4 Sharks
- J Coetzee 4 Stormers
I should add that Steph's metres per carry last year, for the Boks, was 1.6. So his 1.7 in this year's SXV is about what he usually produces. Last year he passed 24% of the ball he had. We can begin to see why the Stormer's phase play is so static. Ball carrying forwards who are accurate around the field, but totally lacking in dynamism and backs that lack that direct force to put them on the front foot. The Stormer's dismal attacking movement mirrored that of the Boks last year. I think we can see from the information in this thread who we should be building the team around.
The apostle of RPI is using all his deficient knowledge to support BS - 8 turnovers in 15 games means circa 1 per game, plus perhaps 2 in a few games, That is the kind of norm for success thei idiot thrives on. No comprehensive idea about what rugby actually entails.
Nothing new from AO and Mozart. The latter has had a six-year campaign against Du Tpit and normally does not want to see anything positive as to the contributions to the game by Du Toit. His contributions is so prejudiced - his garbled versions are repetitive and boring as well as a useless lot of BS, AO has no idea about rugby and he is a copy of Mozart.
2018 to 2019 is 6 years? I thought we were 1 hour ahead of SA, not 5 years behind.
Mozart has been carrying on about Du Toit since 2013 and the same goes for other players as well. He writes about ball carries and then forgot how his erstwhile hero Alberts made a few carries normally about four or five per game gaining on average 1,8 meter per carry in Super rugby. That he defended like his life depended on it.
Fact is if one wants to know useless players way passed their sell-by date Mozart supported in the past the list is endless, A typical example is the Amla story in the CWC The loony hero-worshipped Amla in the recent RWC as an example and got caught out for being stupid beyond belief.
I don't follow cricket. Yet I have no doubt you are shown up in the cricket section as badly as you are in the rugby.
Alberts put the Boks on the front foot and soaked up defenders. Was an excellent decoy too, which afforded Morné the opportunity to use his accurate long pass to set runners free past the egde of the defense. Steph can't contribute in this way. When Steph gets the ball, the defence know it's going nowhere. When he was the distributor in the pod it was very telegraphed. The defence held for a split second and then broke upon the attackers lying underneath the pod. Hence we got no momentum and Faf had to kick.
The only two imbeciles who think I have been shown up badly anywhere are the min village idiot (AO) and his driveling supporter.
A s the old saying goes, if the dunce cap fits...
On another note, how do you suppose we correct José Erasmus' jogging?
Ah yes, the great 2019 season of the Swan Princess
Mabe, because you stare yourself blind at some of the stats, you miss seeing the game in context.
Actually, got me, it's the opposite way around: I start and end with film. That puts stats in context, and corrects errors. I have challenged and refuted stats before. The blind must be those who can't tell me why they believe what they do. It's always a "gut feel", or more laughably still, the "eye test" without seeing anything.
The table shows what any educated rugby fan should see….Dud Toit is a totally mediocre ball carrier. And an even worse passer/offloader…..the gum in the attacking works
Best in the world, but where is the production? Wasn't even in the top 30 for steals that season, despite being lauded for his breakdown presence. Didn't rank high for tackle success. It really isn't surprising that he was ranked the 17th best flank.
Where yopu cannpot see it because you nhave no idea about player activities in games that is dealt with by Elite programs.. You rely on nothing at all about player activities and what they do is totally ignored or belittled by you.
Who do you think Erasmus - a rugby genius - rate De Allende and Du Toit highly and ignore for instance Esterhuizen? Because he has a full analysis of what happen in games that you or your stats quote does not have.
some more context to the stats...gps telemetry, etc
Rassie is a subpar analyst. Look at his substitutes to botch the Home All Black test. Miraculously, the media let him off the hook. Which faces let him down? The same players we bring to topic here time and again. Esterhuizen outperformed Damian easily. It's not even close. The footage of both player's entire 2018 test season contributions are still online for all to see. Go prove me wrong. Cute
err, no.
Err, yes. Ende. Aus und vorbei.
How I ask with tears in my eyes can a guy who averages 1.7 yards a carry and beats a tackle once every 10 runs be a great ball carrier. Seriously can one of you Dud Toit worshipers explain that to me….the floor is your’s.
I have challenged them, pressing for details and all I get are insults and paraphrasings from "them" and "they" who are "experts" and "know everyhing". They don't know why they believe what they do, but sure feel strongly about this something they don't know.
Brilliant JW….one might add:
And when Gerald on rare occasion was somewhat inclined to leap
The opposition could be certain the ball was their’s to keep.
…..
That could be a sequel ‘ Giraffes Can’t Jump’
Lol...actual mirth.
Auge, I never claimed to be an expert....I merely stated that weak teams with poor. coaches doesn't win trophies when there are a bunch of passengers in the side...and then it's not your everyday, run of the mill trophies, it's the Rugby World Cup and the Rugby Championship...and World Rugby Player of the Year, etc...
Somewhere in all your stats, something is missing. You can't explain it all away with "poorest Wallaby side in years" and "injury ridden Welsh side".
It doesn't work like that. Somewhere in all your complaints, must be some room for praise. The facts show that we are world champions...we won the bloody RWC and you're complaining as if we losr to Japan!
Praise? Yes. Beast, Eben, Pollard, Willie, Am, Thor, Louw et al.
Herr Draht, here's the thing. The Boks did not play great rugby at the World Cup. They were very patchy in the RC. Without Esterhuizen, Kuridrani runs riot and even the worst Wallaby side in 45 years (taken as a fact in Australia by their own rugby community) is a lot more dangerous. You want to believe that this was the best achievement, or near about, in Bok history. Really, it isn't. Every time I critique this team, we are dragged back to 2015 for comparison. It's not even close. Australia were by far the best attacking side in world rugby, Wales the best defensive side and with physicality to match us. Had Damian not flubbed the Aussie test (not at home, but in Australia), we'd still have won. New Zealand were better in 2015, and we didn't have the luck of playing them in the group stages! A lot of things went right for the 2019 Boks. It had to. Then their best matchup in the final, where Beast had a blinder.
"You want to believe that this was the best achievement, or near about, in Bok history. Really, it isn't. "
Don't put words in my mouth...I never said anything close to this. Never.
"Praise? Yes. Beast, Eben, Pollard, Willie, Am, Thor, Louw et al."
That's 7 players...TEAMS win world cups...good teams with a bit of luck...not weak teams full of passengers.
Steph, Damian, Kolisi did not improve the team. They are not world class players. They do not belong at test level, even Super rugby level is a level too high. There is no production, there is nothing they did to improve the team. That's the beginning and end of the matter. As for coaching? Josè dug deep into his bag of tricks in 2018 and was exposed. He became more and more conservative on his foundation of kicking and defence.
Not every player in a world cup winning team is world class. There's a core that needs to be world class, and that core carried the chaff. You give credit where it isn't due, you follow the media tripe that denies another man his dues and even goes so far as damage his potential earnings. I cannot and will not ever tolerate that. The mediocre will be exposed, the lies and idiocy will be exposed.
Interesting to note on tour in 2018, when Damian was subbed by Esterhuizen, Jean said, "No we should see some ball getting out into the open spaces". Is he an idiot too? He played with Damian. Not everyone in the sporting world says what they really think. Saffers are very eager to receive a pat on the head, and the opposition know this.


