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Talent failing to develop

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Winesy83Rookie15 posts
11 Dec 2014, 21:11
#1
11 Dec 2014, 21:11#1

Hi Everyone,


I'm a long time follower yet don't post much. 


Over the years I've seen various posters on here rave on about the next great talent, how they will save the Boks and transform the way they play. This is normally accompanied by a dismissal of every other player in that position and outright anger and denial at any good player performing well who might be an alternative. This is particularly apparent with the 10 position. 


I have longed for the Boks to alter the way they play and look as dangerous as the Ab's/Ozzies and every time I've read about this or that player being able to do this I can't but help but be excited. Yet so few have developed into the talent we hoped. Is this just having expectations that are too high? 


A list of players at 10 I've seen talked up as 'the saviour' on this site:


1. Ruan Pienaar - When he first came on the scene and couldn't get past Du Preez for 9. Seen as the new Stephen Larkham by Eddie Jones. Inexplicably never really ran when at 10.


2. Morne Steyn - Part of the unstoppable Bulls machine in his youth, his limitations became more apparent playing behind a not so dominant pack.


3. Patrick Lambie - A brilliant Currie Cup final and if we're honest fairly underwhelming since.


4. Sias Ebersohn - Playing fairly nicely for the Force. Might end up a Wallaby but defence has always been a problem. 


5. Elton Janties - Definitely the most exciting 10 with ball in hand I've seen for the our Super 15 sides. Had a poor year for the Stormers and never really got confidence back.


6. Johan Goosen - Seen as the most talented of the lot by many, huge boot and running game, frequent injuries and poor defence meant he went down in a lot of people estimation. 


7. Handre Pollard -  A great JWC on home ground followed by a distinctly ordinary tournament the following year and then a strong third JWC. This kid has talent but how much more will he develop?


I have seen the same claims made of all these players, why should Pollard be any different? Are we all guilty of just depending on hope too much? All of these guys are still playing, 3-7 are still young and developing, do write them off too early?


  

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,288 posts
11 Dec 2014, 22:14
#2
11 Dec 2014, 22:14#2
Welcome to the board Winesy83
Everyone is allways looking for the next big thing. Their is nothing better than a new young Habana, Bob Skinstad, Schalk Burger etc coming through. 
Many expect/predict/bet/gamble standouts at Curry Cup level to do the same at Bok level. Although many players just cant make the step up successfully to the next level. Their strengths get negated and weaknesses they never even knew they had get exposed. What happened to the new Bok Loosehead, who was it Geldenhuis or something...... Many had him on their team sheets, but after 2 sub runs vs Italy and Wales, no one has them on their team sheet for 2015....
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biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
11 Dec 2014, 22:35
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11 Dec 2014, 22:35#3
Our players have any thought of individualism coached out of them. It's that simple.
Our coaches believe in structure above all and they are too conservative in their thinking, we play risk averse rugby. 
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
12 Dec 2014, 12:07
#4
12 Dec 2014, 12:07#4

These players would be the next best thing if our coach actually showed some faith in them, instead of chopping and changing every few games.

 

If Pollard, Goosen or Lambie had had the investment useless Morne got at 10 for the Boks, they would have long settled now in the knowledge that they can relax and play with the freedom of security instead of facing every game as a trial match.

 

Our coach is weak when it comes to selections, player management and game plans.......you get the picture?  

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