That one player..

Vermeulen is good, but not the ultimate answer......nor is Louw and Alberts.

I prefer the likes of Coetzee, Kolisi, Elstadt, CJ Stander, Brussouw and Arno Botha......these are the players that should make up our loose trio

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"Nope RooiAAS didn't rate Joost...he said he was a poor passer from the base."

Not sure how many of you have noticed how when the resident liar and fork-tongued fibber gets accused of lying he always gets all red-faced and indignant and demands that the accuser puts up an example of one of his lies . . . well, this is the example I will point to next time this sad and pathetic liar gets all self-righteous.

I've actually met Joost (pre illness) and I've always been a fan of him as a player if not always as a person. I have spoken at length about how one of the greatest Springbok teams of all time (Nick Mallett's 1998 Springboks) was formed around the defensive core of Gary Teichmann, Joost van der Westhuizen and Henry Honiball and I know for a fact that Joost himself takes great pride in the fact that that defensive line was never breached during the 17 match win ning streak. I've never once said anything about Joost's pass or his service, complimentary or otherwise. What Moffie is claiming above is just a plain lie, nothing less.

Most posters here will know that Moffie keeps a database on everything I've ever said over the last decade in the hope that once in a while I get something wrong (which I do) so let's see the disgusting liar put up some proof. Let's see Moffie substantiate this claim that I've criticised Joost's pass.

The ball is squarely in Moffie's court. I predict that what follows will be a lie, an obfuscation or a cowardly retreat . . . along with a lot of squawking form his grovelling alpha-gimp Dense.

I'm calling Moffie out as a liar on this thread . . . let's see how he responds.

In reply to the original post of Chippo's, I readily admit that I used to criticise Duane Vermeulen for being a dirty thug in the past but I also gave him credit for cleaning up his act and becoming one of the world's best #8s after his move to the Stormers.

I would suggest Henry Honiball as one player that no-one was ignorant enough to slag off but I do know of one self-important and arrogant tosser who never saw the value of Lem . . . so instead, I'll go Andre Venter as my pick of a player that surely everyone rated. Okay, maybe not Dense but anyone with the vaguest interest or knowledge about Springbok rugby.  

Before the half-wits start soiling their panties and shrieking about who was better than who, this is a team of my personal favourite players. I don't expect anyone to agree with me and I'm not claiming any one of them is better than anyone else, I'm just putting together a team of my favourite all-time players and I'd be interested to see who other people put in their favourite teams.

Here's mine . . .

15 My son Michael (Andre Joubert and Christian Cullen were both close)

14 Ray Mordt 

13 Danie Gerber

12 Pieter Muller

11 Tony Watson (I also considered Carel du Plessis and JJ Williams from the 1974 British Lions) 

10 Henry Honiball

9 Craig Davidson (Gareth Edwards was very close)

8 Gary Teichmann

7 Andre Venter

6 Wayne Fyvie (special mention to Fergus Slattery, the Irish opensider on the 1974 British Lions tour)

5 Mark Andrews

4 Krynauw Otto (hugely underrated player)

3 Frans "Domkrag" Erasmus

2 Lukas van Biljon (bit of a one-season wonder admittedly)

1 Os du Randt