The case for Wilco and Esterhozen

The Quins/Exeter final was perhaps the game of the season so far.

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Fine game from the pair. Kind of depressing. We've waited so long for a new generation of talented players to emerge and settle, to become viable options. Now we have a coaching team who are squandering it worse than Snor squandered our golden era. 

The case for Esterhuizen cannto be proved in one game.   Esterhuizen obviously had his chances to be a regular Springbok - but in all the tests he played in there were failures and seriosu ones at that.   He isolated himself when carrying balls causing turnovers in possesion - his defense waas inadequate and  his passing game was poor as well.   Physically strong - but rather  lacking in ball skills and  that was only part of the reasons why he is not in the squad at present,    The coaching staff has Roberts - stationed  in Dublin to watch and report on performances  of  SA players playing for Clubs in Europe and report on his findings.

One of Esterhuizen's problems were in his thinking process - that showed already in the November 2018 test in London.    He does not think logically in games  and in the past season  he was red-carded twice and was banned for 8 weeks  as a result.   Can one afford anything like that on test level and the answer is no.    He is a physically strong - but pace deficient player  with dubious ball skills and with  deficient defense.    That is why he is at present not considered  for Springbok selection 

And then we have said that hte coaching set-up is squandering our talented players worse than  Snorre did.    He is wrong - the talented players were not squandered at all since 2018.   A lot of players got repeated chances to play for the Springboks and some succeeded others did not.  In the case of his heroes  Meyer and Coetzee no talented players were ever given chances and in he main their talent was coached out of them  and that nearly destroyed their natural talents.  

By the way how many WC's, RC's and other trophies were won by the teams coached by Meyer and Coetzee and the answer is zero.   What was the average age of the Springbok WC squad in 2015 and what was it in 2019?.   Tell us why in the best-performing  team in 2015 Super Rugby series there were no Lions in the WC squad.   So where did that talent go to?                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          

Esterhuizen has outplayed Damian, and without being given such a glut of ball. Look at the Puma tests to see how poor the possession he received by this revolting and putrid gameplan of Skop 'N Pop.

Damian isn't even a 12. He is an outside centre wing hybrid. Meyer carved out a role for him, and that's been the blueprint ever since. Meyer closed the playbook because Damian couldn't handle it. Damian isn't in the top 100 centres of the century thus far.

Can't pass, can't tackle, can't kick, can't read play. Sometimes, very rarely the past two active rugby seasons, good at the breakdown when an opportunity is present. Esterhuizen is the better cleaner and counter rucker though. Damian had a frantic and uncoordinated offload, Esterhuizen has skill with poise and accuracy. 

One of the few insights I agree with Organpuffer (Omelette Maker) is Andre Esterhuizen, my honest opinion as little as it valued is that he is a very good stand-by for De Allende if the coaches want to compare...for me De Allende seems the best, only because I trust far greater selectors of players than myself and lets be very, very honest...none of us are experts...I'd rather listen to guys like Pieter Muller and Jeremy Thomson who have been up there sometime... far more credentials than us rabble. But Andre is powerful and ever since his time in Japan finally can catch a ball. Ol' Mikie be fair and take those blinkers off...call me Devils Advocate if you wish but that's the difference between us...some give credit when it's due but some no quarter no matter what is presented. Organpuffer is blind 6 days in a week but sometimes his eyes open once in those 7 days.

Andre is a penetrator, strong and forceful...improve the subtle skills in him he is up there.

Esterhuizen's skill is already elite. One of the very few backs we have who can distribute under any kind of pressure, that includes our flimsy line of 9s. There is nothing Damian does better aside from the very occasional breakdown steal. Esterhuizen is faster, more skillful, stronger, more forceful, a better defender, has greater composure and a better boot. His partnership with Am should have given him the edge in selection. Our selectors are not that knowledgeable. Bok rugby has exceedingly poor analytics. If you want to consider yourself beneath that, then by all means go ahead. Not everyone else is. It doesn't take that much to break the game down. This is where American Football is lightyears ahead of the rugby World: xs and os. The average American fan can analyse the game. The average rugby fan has absolutely no idea what they are looking at. 

Esterhuizen does tend to get banned a lot though.

!2's and 13's are a conundrum sometimes to be fair,,,maybe they can be shuffled to break convention like French coach Lievremont did with France/NZ final in 2011, when Morgan Parra (usually a scrumhalf) played flyhalf and Dimitri Yachvili (usually a flyhalf) played scrumhalf.

The result was a one point difference in NZ...if only Trinh-Duc earlier penalty kick before he was replaced had not missed...the rugby world vision would be distorted., just the same as Joel Strankys drop had missed in 1995.

Rugby is actually a very fragile game when it comes to results, selections etc.

Henshaw comfortably outplayed Dud.

Sure - if you use the stats in the tests Henshaw played  you are talking as per normal BS.  But then you only use stats if you can distort it.    

And you don’t  use stats because you’re a moron.

The stats you use and often abuse is not the full match evaluation of player performances available and used by experts and is showing in detail every action of indivdual players throughout games.  No player can hide from those facts and what your rate as showing of player performances is total BS.    In any event that player data was available to Meyer and Coetzee as well - but they were too dumb to understand it.      

Anybody trashing Allende is showing their gross ignorance. PERIOD. 

I agree with the YAWN. The stupidity is boring.