The chickens are coming back for the Waisons

There were a significant influx on non Dutch Europeans too...before the 1820 British Setlers.

Draad

Most settlers were Dutch  and German, but there were also English French and Scottish arrivals.  One Englishman - John White - became known as Jam de Wit.

 Forget about the worthless orc - he is what Afrikaans calls "niets wat iets geword het".   He has an enormous superiority complex but even though he may think he is "iets" - in reality he remains "niets ".    

Maaik, most were Dutch, but lots of them were Lower Germans, whose language were closer to Dutch than German. "The Dutch Preformed Church" is actually "Die Neder Duitse Gereforormeerde kerk" 

Lowere Germany is right next to the Netherlands.  

"West Low German, also known as Low Saxon(German: Westniederdeutsch, literally West Low German, or Niedersächsisch (in a stricter sense), literally: Low Saxon, Nether-Saxon; Low German: Nedersassisch, Nedersaksies; Dutch: Nedersaksisch) is a group of Low German(also Low Saxon; German: Plattdeutsch, Niederdeutsch, Dutch: Nederduits) dialects spoken in parts of the Netherlands, northwestern Germany and southern Denmark (in North Schleswig by the German minority). It is one of two groups of mutually intelligible dialects, the other being East Low German dialects."

Lots of the Lower Germans would have been seen as Dutch. That's why Germany always had a good relationship with South Africa in the past.

Wow what an interesting debate. Can someone enlighten me on whether the Flemish migrated to the Cape? It's always been my understanding that it was the Flemish who settled not the Dutch?

Draad 

Sure you are correct - but then there were also Lutherans amongst the settlers.  One of the most famous of those were Martin Melk - who became the richest farmer and businessman in the Cape Colony and built the still-existing Lutheran Church in Strand Street.

Afrikaans is much closer aligned to Flemish than to High Dutch - but it may have resulted from subsequent developments in Dutch as a language.   As a matter of fact there are also variations in Afrikaans - eg the famous Namaqualand dialect.   Research indicated that it is related to 13th and 14th  century Dutch.   It could be that the slaves serving in Dutch households became involved in early Dutch dialects and continued using that for the 18th and much of 19th centuries - that actually resulted in Afrikaans development as a separate language.   Fact is the first Afrikaans book was written by a Muslim and was based on actual language usage by ex-slaves and Coloureds.           

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It was the Huguenots who settled in the Cape. They were Reformed Protestants fleeing persecution from the Catholics and they were made up of French, Flemish and Dutch.

Blue, John Cleese nails the "I could care less" issue in this clip.

SB

"How could a high percentage of the Dutch population be descended from one person? Was she a nymphomaniac that was able to give birth more than once every 9 months...Additionally do you not mean Afrikaans, because how can Dutch origin people have a shared forefather/mother from a different country."

Nobody said anything about being descended  from one person.   The person concerned Pieternella Zaayman had 9 children.   Going through the list of Saayman descendants it was found that the average families had 9 to 16 children.   In 1803 there were 11 generations of people descended from Pieternella Saayman.   Take the average of  10 children per descendant it can be calculated that in the period 1680 to 1803 there were conservatively 880 descendants from  each of her children.   Of the 9 children 8 had children - one left the Cape to serve in the VOC in the east  - the  others on average had more than the 9 children mentioned.   Taking that into account of the 16000 "whites" in Cape Colony at the time up to 8000 could be descended from Eva of the Goringhaikona and Pieternella Saayman.

The other part of your statement is also a farce about being accepted by the Dutch,   Simon van der Stel married a Bengali women and Bengali's and Malays were favourite brides of the Dutch settlers of the Cape before 1720.   The majority of settlers  had children with Khoi San Women.    The children remain regarded as Dutch.   After that there was a gradual shift.   Those who married more White-looking  descendants gradually became lighter in colour and became accepted  as Whites,   One of the relevant examples was Ouma Smuts - General Smuts wife. The 17th century Dutch -  like their present descendants - had no problem with marrying anybody.    

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