The crazy world of Mozart

Mozart

There can never be a bigger liar on site than you.  

By the way the backline moving when the ball is just about to appear and go off-side in the process/    They can only start moving once the scrummie has the ball in hand and ready too pass.

The expert are passing ignorance again so les not get a;; agog like he believes we should be.    

Den

Whitley, a number 8, understands the timing of  run better than most of our backs.

How many times has he made that angled run when on the opposition try line and burst through to score?

Our teams just look so footed most of the time.

It's like we don't have the savvy to drop a few guys back, let them charge the line and give it to one of them to go through.

It hardly ever happens and I can't understand why.

We need to start calling specific attacking plays in those situations. 

The Bulls have done it with some success.

I refer you to the Bulls Landers game where a set move saw Pollard put Kriel through.

What you are saying now is different from what you said before,  The ball must be ready to pass/ to be passed  - ie out of the mauls, scrums and line-outs - before the backline can move.

What you are driving at is individual backline players and even others catching the ball at pace and thus breaking the line.   There was a typical example  on Saturday where it was tried and failed because Esterhuizen knocked on the ball when already virtually on the tryline.

Wings are suited for that purpose because they run at an angle from behind the flyhalf and they thus get sufficient pace to  get the ball at pace.   However, the thing is that the ball-carrier in such cases - mostly the flyhalf,  but also centers and even other players must time their passing 100% and the passes must be accurate as well,  

Some players running at angles at pace have too poor ball skills to pull it off.   However, this is a relatively new method insofar as SA flyhalfs and other players are concerned - Morne and other SA flyhalfs stopped it from happening altogether.   It could be  that with proper coaching and more experience gained players with good ball skills could cause it to become more successfully.        

Wow!!! I never realized just how ignorant you are, Mike.

Can it be possible? And yet here you are lecturing us on the sport ... again.

Are you sure you're on the right site? I think the knitting room is two doors down.

I take it you are aware that the opposition is also keeping an eye on the scrummie? You do know that they move the moment he does ... right? Their objective is to put us on the back foot ... to prevent us from crossing the advantage line ... to strip us of possession. You do know that, right? Please tell me you know that at least !!!

How many times have we not been caught in possession behind the advantage line ... or for that matter, still standing stationary? Remember Lima's crunch tackle on HouGat?

Catch a wake up, "clever".

Have you heard of dummy runners? Have you heard of unpredictability? Have you heard of getting front foot ball? Have you heard of momentum or running lines? 

How many seconds would you say it takes for a pass from the scrummie to get to the receiver?

10 seconds ... 20 seconds ... 30 seconds?

How about a single second from the base of the ruck? 

How many meters would you say the receiver managed to advance from a stationary position during that split second?

5m ... 10m ... 20m?

How about 1m ... maybe. Do you think that that is a good ploy to use? Do you think it'll win you many test matches?

I don't. 

CC

What the hell are you going on about.  Stop the drivel.    

"By the way the backline moving when the ball is just about to appear and go off-side in the process/    They can only start moving once the scrummie has the ball in hand and ready too pass."

"What you are saying now is different from what you said before,  The ball must be ready to pass to be passed  - ie out of the mauls, scrums and line-outs - before the backline can move."

ABSOLUTE BOLLOCKS!!

5m from a scrum.

10m from a lineout.

Behind the backfoot at ruck and maul.

These are the offside lines you are talking about right?

The backs and/or forwards can move as much as they like behind those lines. Thay can dance a friggin jig or play kissing catches if they want to.

FML.

Sure Morne stood 15 meters behind those lines and he could move and he did not move before receiving balls.   Him and his ilk prevented what Mozart tried to convey;    I am talking about normal players observing the off-side line.    I am fully aware off-side lines where  moving being in danger of off-side before the ball is ready to be passed.

However, this was never the issue Moses tried to convey -  what he said initially was BS.  It was not the backline as a whole that is at issue - rather a player gaining pace and running at an angle so as to break the line.   

There is one other thing everybody left out.   The worst thing any scrummie can do is to wave to people  before he passes the ball.   It is in my opinion a joke since it gives the opposition more time to organize their defense.    The effect is zero or negative.

"kissing catches"

Wots dat? 

"I refer you to the Bulls Landers game where a set move saw Pollard put Kriel through."

Mr Plum

You've added to the intellectual property. When our list is oversubscribed I suggest we forward it to the coaches.

Moses?

You've lost me.

I knew you were confused. I never realized to what extent your delusions had taken root.

I think this thread of yours has backfired badly. It's not what you intended it for ... is it, Mike?

Tokkie the Tottie ... self inflicted by the way.  

No - the last comments are utter BS and total misrepresentation on what I wrote \above.   I wrote about timing as to moving and said a flyhalf like Morne never attacked the gain line and was totally static when he received the ball - neutralizing any potential attacking moves by other players running at angles.

In the case of Jantjies it is often neutralize by his crabbing sideways and that makes his pop passes so ineffective.   .

Having had duds as flyhalfs for five years now with an atrocious game plan where flyhalfs were replaced by loosies - like happened in the WC -  there is no way other players in SA teams  could master the art of running at speed at angles.

The universe you live in must be the problem - not me.