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The DDA hype machine rolls on

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
20 May 2024, 05:16
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20 May 2024, 05:16#1
Springboks star Damian de Allende powers Wild Knights into JRLO final

So reads a Planet Rugby headline. So I thought hey, let's look at this tremendous play by DDA that "powered" his team into the final.


Well, turns out the flyhalf made a clean 40m break to within a meter of the tryline, and DDA just had to pick the presented ball up and push it over the line.


POWERful stuff

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
20 May 2024, 06:20
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20 May 2024, 06:20#2
...and then one watches Roos. An actually powerful player that wakes up every morning and chooses violence. Damn the kid is impressive. He's got that berserker gene for sure. In a 1 v 1, I'm picking Roos, who is actually slightly smaller than DDA, to get the upper hand 90% of the time.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 May 2024, 09:11
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20 May 2024, 09:11#3

Pakie

Please give us a reference wherfe we can wtch the game - a match is not won by one incident as youd escribed - it is won by contribution fo players overall.   So please help out.

Plum

What has Roos to do wiuth the topic.   He is nto a backline player and will never be.  

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
20 May 2024, 09:46
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20 May 2024, 09:46#4

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=rugby+japan+league+one


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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
20 May 2024, 10:01
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20 May 2024, 10:01#5

The try is at 1:11:16 in Blob's video.

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MpowerPro5,061 posts
20 May 2024, 11:48
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20 May 2024, 11:48#6
Was that Faf coming on the field carrying water? In the slow mo it looks like Dud knocked the ball forward, but then somehow he placed it….this is a typical Dud try, the rest of the team does the hard work, where he is no where involved, and then he flops over with the help of a Player pushing from the back….nothing powerful or special.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 May 2024, 14:19
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20 May 2024, 14:19#7

Here’s something to notice in this try. The flyhalf breaks and Dud Allende sprints to catch up…..then for unknown reasons, drifts behind him….dropping back to 3 steps behind. Why? He should be on the flyhalf’s shoulder, ready for the pass or the offload. Juvenile defense allowed a rather dubious try…but a simple offload to a support runner was available.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
20 May 2024, 19:59
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20 May 2024, 19:59#8
Big fucking YAWN Pakie
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
21 May 2024, 07:21
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21 May 2024, 07:21#9

Ja Dave, that's my reaction too watching The Slow Motion Man play.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
21 May 2024, 07:54
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21 May 2024, 07:54#10

DDA has a killer instinct. He kills plays by simply being near them.

It's been pointed out here on many occasions. In a moment of advantage, DDA doesn't have the instinct to make the correct choice. He generally picks the one with the least likelihood of success.

It's why he is so rarely part of scoring sequences. 

"Here’s something to notice in this try. The flyhalf breaks and Dud Allende sprints to catch up…..then for unknown reasons, drifts behind him….dropping back to 3 steps behind. Why? He should be on the flyhalf’s shoulder, ready for the pass or the offload. Juvenile defense allowed a rather dubious try…but a simple offload to a support runner was available."

Versus this guy...


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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
21 May 2024, 08:05
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21 May 2024, 08:05#11
I thought you were more rugby astute than that Pakie Clearly Rassie has no fucking idea what he is doing picking DA at 12 since he started, despite the presence of Esterhuizen, JVR, Serfontein, Willemse, Dan du Plessis So either Rassie has no idea or you are clueless
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MpowerPro5,061 posts
21 May 2024, 12:01
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21 May 2024, 12:01#12
The DDA conundrum ….is the hype really justified?? Video material and stats paints a darker picture as to DDA,s real abilities….maybe it’s the role Rassie have him playing as John Deere that clouds our judgement?? But for now sanity prevails and what we see is that he kills playing opportunities all the time…then when he gets a given try ( that even Ramaphosa can score) he is the saviour with his so called power play…so in my opinion the hype is unjustified and as long as Dud gets to play 12, the Bok attack will not reach the next level!
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 May 2024, 13:08
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21 May 2024, 13:08#13

So Rassie chose Mostert…either Rassie is stupid or you are clueless Dave? 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
21 May 2024, 14:15
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21 May 2024, 14:15#14
No the only reason Rassie selected Mostert was because Lood was injured We all know that when Lood is fit, Mostert is relegated to the bench - I suspect Mostert will be history this year if they go with a 5/3 bench for then RG will be the bench lock - or it will be RG starting with Lood on the bench I know exactly where powder puff ranks in Rassie’s eyes. DA has always bern Rassie’s starting 12 and rightly so
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
21 May 2024, 15:25
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21 May 2024, 15:25#15
Ah...so in the second Lions test, a must win game, Rassie starts Mostert, plays him for the full 80...and brings Lood on as a sub with something like 15 minutes left in the game. Lood was fit, it was a massive game...make or break stuff, and Rassie went with Moster. But Rassie actually prefers Lood? ...everybody is a stupid prick, right?
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MpowerPro5,061 posts
21 May 2024, 15:30
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21 May 2024, 15:30#16
No Mostert was chosen because of his reliability and his excellent Rugby play….Lood is a tub of lard not to be mentioned in the same vicinity as Mostert….Lood is not comparable to our inform locks like Ruben van heerden and if you ask me, it would be ridiculous to include him on form of 5 years ago or just because of reputation….DDA or " John Deere " is only worth his one skill, strength in tractoring .
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
21 May 2024, 16:27
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21 May 2024, 16:27#17
Look Buttplug I know you struggle with reality but here are some facts for you to digest Lood was only just back from shoulder surgery when he started on the bench for the Boks in the Lions series. It was a race against time for him to be fit for the Lions series. He injured the shoulder in the 2019 final, had surgery and was out for 6 months. On his return, he dislocated the same shoulder playing for Sale requiring surgery yet again. Listen here fuckwit, when Lood has been fully match fit he has always started ahead of powder puff - this is a fact. Stick to being the dickhead of a racist that you are - that’s your strength scumbag You are a fucking disgrace
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
21 May 2024, 17:34
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21 May 2024, 17:34#18
Seems Lood has been very unlucky. As far as I can tell, Mostert has started the majority of the important games since Rassie took over. Must be my imagination. Or is old Fat Lip spinning stories again... Does it make you wanna cry a little, Fat Lip?
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
21 May 2024, 17:40
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21 May 2024, 17:40#19
Listen you ignorant racist pig go tell someone who cares Go look it up you ignorant prick - Lood vs Mostert starting under Rassie and be prepared to be embarrassed Fuck me you seriously know fuck all and you are a despicable racist cunt You are not worth fucking feeding. You are an insult of a South African
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 May 2024, 18:19
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21 May 2024, 18:19#20

Ja sure. He has started 32 test for Erasmus….but Erasmus doesn’t really rate him

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
21 May 2024, 18:35
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21 May 2024, 18:35#21
Started 32 - name those tests I never said Rassie did not rate him, he clearly does unfortunately - I’m saying he rates Lood higher as Lood has always started ahead of him when fully match fit which he was not for the Lions series
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
21 May 2024, 20:21
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21 May 2024, 20:21#22
Rassie is a genius and you are never wrong...but someone's must be wrong about Mostert. Is it Fat Lip or Rassie?
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
21 May 2024, 20:35
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21 May 2024, 20:35#23
Tell us how much you hate black people Buttplug - you racist scumbag
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 May 2024, 02:27
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22 May 2024, 02:27#24

Eleven  at lock in 2018,  five at lock in 2019, four at lock and four at flank in 2021, five at flank and one at lock 9 in 2022, six at lock and two at flank in 2023. I underestimated his starts under Eluckmiss, there were 38….which excludes his starts as a reserve.

  Eluckmiss has been amazingly lucky….never more so than when the  low energy Lomp was run over by Tuilagi and Mostert subbed on to tackle the Boks to WC victory in 2019.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
22 May 2024, 03:37
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22 May 2024, 03:37#25
Awe, the Fat Lil has a get-out clause. Calling me racist doesn't make your take on Mostert any more ludicrous. So who is wrong, Rassie or you?
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
22 May 2024, 10:29
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22 May 2024, 10:29#26
Bullshit Moz your figures are wrong and we are not talking about him at flank where he has always been utterly useless so much so that Rassie replaced him with little Kwagga against the Lions My point is that when Lood has been fit as the years have gone on, he starts ahead of powder puff - fact
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
22 May 2024, 10:30
#27
22 May 2024, 10:30#27
Buttplug stick to hating black people - I don’t give a fuck about anything you have to say You are fucking scum
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
22 May 2024, 11:22
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22 May 2024, 11:22#28
Who said I hate black people? Haha you making up stories to get yourself out of tricky spots? Who is wrong, Fat Lip...you or Rassie?
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
22 May 2024, 16:17
#29
22 May 2024, 16:17#29
It’s fucking obvious you dumb prick
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 May 2024, 16:28
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22 May 2024, 16:28#30

So, Eluckmiss played him at flank in 2021, and again in 2023 because he thought he was useless in 2021? My numbers are right….he was picked as a starter 38 times by the genius.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
22 May 2024, 17:33
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22 May 2024, 17:33#31
I’ve checked the stats he never started under Rassie that many times and certainly some were at 7 I have never said he has never started under Rassie - I’ve said that Rassie chooses Lood over Mostert at lock when Lood is match fit - he prefers Lood and rightly so
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 May 2024, 21:54
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22 May 2024, 21:54#32

Knock  yourself out!


Prov18 Jun 201625ReserveIrelandWin: 32-26 Ellispark, JohannesburgLions25 Jun 201625ReserveIrelandWin: 19-13 Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium, Port ElizabethLions10 Sep 201625ReserveAustraliaLose: 17-23 Suncorp Stadium (Lang Park), BrisbaneLions17 Sep 201625ReserveNew ZealandLose: 13-41 AMI Stadium (Rugby League Park), ChristchurchLions12 Nov 201625ReserveEnglandLose: 21-37 Twickenham, LondonRicoh19 Nov 201625ReserveItalyLose: 18-20 Stadio Artemio Franchi, FlorenceRicoh26 Nov 201625ReserveWalesLose: 13-27 Millenium Stadium (Cardiff Arms Park), CardiffRicoh10 Jun 201726LockFranceWin: 37-14 Loftus Versfeld, PretoriaLions17 Jun 201726LockFranceWin: 37-15 Kingspark, DurbanLions24 Jun 201726LockFranceWin: 35-12 Ellispark, JohannesburgLions19 Aug 201726LockArgentinaWin: 37-15 Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium, Port ElizabethLions26 Aug 201726LockArgentinaWin: 41-23 Estadio Padre Ernesto Martearena, SaltaLions16 Sep 201726LockNew ZealandLose: 0-57 North Harbour Stadium, North Shore CityLions30 Sep 201726LockAustraliaDraw: 27-27 Free State Stadium, BloemfonteinLions07 Oct 201726ReserveNew ZealandLose: 24-25 Newlands, Cape TownLions11 Nov 201726ReserveIrelandLose: 3-38 Aviva Stadium (Lansdowne Road), DublinLions18 Nov 201726ReserveFranceWin: 18-17 Stade de France, ParisLions25 Nov 201726ReserveItalyWin: 35-61 tryStadio Euganeo, PaduaLions09 Jun 201827LockEnglandWin: 42-39 Ellispark, JohannesburgLions16 Jun 201827LockEnglandWin: 23-12 Free State Stadium, BloemfonteinLions23 Jun 201827LockEnglandLose: 10-25 Newlands, Cape TownLions25 Aug 201827LockArgentinaLose: 19-32 Estadio Malvinas Argentinas, MendozaLions08 Sep 201827LockAustraliaLose: 18-23 Suncorp Stadium (Lang Park), BrisbaneLions15 Sep 201827LockNew ZealandWin: 36-34 WestPac Stadium, WellingtonLions29 Sep 201827LockAustraliaWin: 23-12 Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium, Port ElizabethLions06 Oct 201827LockNew ZealandLose: 30-32 Loftus Versfeld, PretoriaLions10 Nov 201827LockFranceWin: 29-26 Stade de France, ParisLions17 Nov 201827LockScotlandWin: 26-20 Murrayfield, EdinburghLions24 Nov 201827LockWalesLose: 11-20 Millenium Stadium (Cardiff Arms Park), CardiffLions27 Jul 201928LockNew ZealandDraw: 16-16 WestPac Stadium, WellingtonGloucester10 Aug 201928LockArgentinaWin: 46-13 Estadio Padre Ernesto Martearena, SaltaGloucester06 Sep 201928LockJapanWin: 41-7 Kumagaya Rugby Stadium, SaitamaGloucester21 Sep 201928LockNew ZealandLose: 13-23 International Stadium Yokohama, YokohamaGloucester28 Sep 201928ReserveNamibiaWin: 57-3 Toyota Stadium, AichiGloucester04 Oct 201928ReserveItalyWin: 49-3 Shizuoka Stadium, FukuroiGloucester08 Oct 201928LockCanadaWin: 66-7 Noevir Stadium, KobeGloucester20 Oct 201928ReserveJapanWin: 26-3 Tokyo Stadium, Chofu, TokyoGloucester27 Oct 201928ReserveWalesWin: 19-16 International Stadium Yokohama, YokohamaGloucester02 Nov 201928ReserveEnglandWin: 32-12 International Stadium Yokohama, YokohamaGloucester02 Jul 202130LockGeorgiaWin: 40-9 Loftus Versfeld, PretoriaHonda24 Jul 202130LockBritainLose: 17-22 Cape Town Stadium, Cape TownHonda31 Jul 202130LockBritainWin: 27-9 Cape Town Stadium, Cape TownHonda07 Aug 202130FlankBritainWin: 19-16 Cape Town Stadium, Cape TownHonda21 Aug 202130FlankArgentinaWin: 29-10 Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium, Port ElizabethHonda12 Sep 202130FlankAustraliaLose: 26-28 Robina Stadium, Gold CoastHonda18 Sep 202130FlankAustraliaLose: 17-30 Suncorp Stadium (Lang Park), BrisbaneHonda25 Sep 202130ReserveNew ZealandLose: 17-19 North Queensland Stadium, TownsvilleHonda02 Oct 202130ReserveNew ZealandWin: 31-29 Robina Stadium, Gold CoastHonda06 Nov 202130ReserveWalesWin: 23-18 Millenium Stadium (Cardiff Arms Park), CardiffHonda13 Nov 202130LockScotlandWin: 30-15 Murrayfield, EdinburghHonda20 Nov 202130ReserveEnglandLose: 26-27 Twickenham, LondonHonda02 Jul 202231FlankWalesWin: 32-29 Loftus Versfeld, PretoriaHonda16 Jul 202231ReserveWalesWin: 30-14 Cape Town Stadium, Cape TownHonda06 Aug 202231ReserveNew ZealandWin: 26-10 Mbombela Stadium, NelspruitHonda13 Aug 202231ReserveNew ZealandLose: 23-35 Ellispark, JohannesburgHonda27 Aug 202231ReserveAustraliaLose: 17-25 Adelaide Oval, AdelaideHonda03 Sep 202231FlankAustraliaWin: 24-81 trySydney Football Stadium (Aussie stadium), SydneyHonda17 Sep 202231FlankArgentinaWin: 36-20 Estadio Libertadores de America, Buenos AiresHonda24 Sep 202231ReserveArgentinaWin: 38-21 Kingspark, DurbanHonda05 Nov 202231ReserveIrelandLose: 16-191 tryAviva Stadium (Lansdowne Road), DublinHonda12 Nov 202231LockFranceLose: 26-30 Stade Velodrome, MarseillesHonda19 Nov 202231FlankItalyWin: 63-21 Luigi Ferraris Stadium, GenoaHonda26 Nov 202231FlankEnglandWin: 27-13 Twickenham, LondonHonda15 Jul 202332FlankNew ZealandLose: 20-35 Mount Smart Stadium, AucklandHonda05 Aug 202332FlankArgentinaWin: 24-13 Velez Sarsfield Stadium, Buenos AiresHonda19 Aug 202332ReserveWalesWin: 52-16 Millenium Stadium (Cardiff Arms Park), CardiffHonda25 Aug 202332LockNew ZealandWin: 35-7 Twickenham, LondonHonda10 Sep 202332LockScotlandWin: 18-3 Stade Velodrome, MarseillesHonda23 Sep 202332LockIrelandLose: 8-13 Stade de France, ParisHonda01 Oct 202332ReserveTongaWin: 49-18 Stade Velodrome, MarseillesHonda15 Oct 202332LockFranceWin: 29-28 Stade de France, ParisHonda21 Oct 202332LockEnglandWin: 16-15 Stade de France, ParisHonda28 Oct 202332LockNew ZealandWin: 12-11 Stade de France, ParisHonda


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 May 2024, 21:59
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22 May 2024, 21:59#33

Can you count….my advice, use your fingers and your toes till you get to 20. Write down 20 and continue using the same fingers and toes…..when you get to the end you will find you have two big toes left. Ergo 38. Comprende?

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
22 May 2024, 22:28
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22 May 2024, 22:28#34
Fuck me try wake up did Rassie start coaching in 2016 huh? 27 starts at lock 16 of which were at the start of Rassie’s tenure then he dumps him to the bench for the majority of the time until the 2023 WC when Lood was injured I must admit I’m shocked he started that many tests at the start - no wonder we under performed at stages The topic was not about Mostert playing or not we know the sad excuse for a lock plays - the point is, Rassie prefers Lood over Mostert when Lood is match fit - fact
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 May 2024, 23:43
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22 May 2024, 23:43#35

I’m giving you his full test match record. I assume you have the capacity to start counting in 2018.  So you were wrong about him not starting 38 tests. Were you lying ? 

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
23 May 2024, 00:49
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23 May 2024, 00:49#36
Watching the Fat Lip squirm when he has direct and irrefutable evidence in front of him...priceless! I love how he immediately tries to worm out of it by taking the "but vis chart is one wot is starting in 2016 and va Genius only started coaching in 2018." Whahaha! The lucky packet solicitor. So who is wrong about Mostert, Fat Lip...YOU or The Genius? But the best, the absolute coup de grace...Mostert's stats are ridiculously good! And after all his caps, he has built a record, demonstrable with actual numbers in black and white. And yet the Fat Lip doesn't rate him but rates a player like DDA who has some of the worst numbers ever. Hilarious stuff!
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
23 May 2024, 07:29
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23 May 2024, 07:29#37
I said starting at lock not flank so no I was not lying at all but you won’t deal with the facts - the fact is once Rassie realised in 2019 that Mostert was not a worthy starter because clearly the only reason can be his lack of physicality he replaced him with Lood as the starter. The only time Mostert returns to start is the last WC when Lood is out injured My point all along is that in an ideal world where there are no injuries Mostert does not make Rassie’s starting side as it’s Eben and Lood at lock and PSDT at 7 - this is a fact
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
23 May 2024, 07:31
#38
23 May 2024, 07:31#38
Buttplug stick to hating black people you scum of the earth Read my response to Moz and weep pig
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 May 2024, 12:49
#39
23 May 2024, 12:49#39

‘Started 32 name those tests’…..sorry Dave, no mention of flank. That distinction entered the mix as it became clear to you that you were wrong.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
23 May 2024, 15:14
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23 May 2024, 15:14#40
Nope I have an issue with powder puff starting at lock, flank is where he belonged but he proved useless there as well. My point all along has been that Rassie prefers Lood to Mostert when Lood is fit and that is a fact The fact that Mostert did start as many at lock at the start comes as a shock as he is useless - but I guess better late than never that Rassie woke up to the fact that he needed a real lock at 5 in Lood
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