For the record, huh? Funny ... he seems to be doing the same thing ... "for the record" I mean.
I'm not sure who's keeping score here. I know I'm not. In the end I don't really think it matters who's leading on the score board. You both are bullshit artists. You both twist the facts at times. You both lie and fab ricate. You both look to silly meaningless stats to "enhance" your argument. You both exaggerate when it comes to those players you don't like. You are both stubborn old men ... always trying to outdo the other.
I guess one can refer to this scoreboard as the Bullshitters Scoreboard.
Question is ... who's the bigger bullshitter. Mozart or CleverMike?
Tell me, Mozart ... do you think you're leading on this Score Board?
Just for the record!!
Oh shit...that's put the cat amongst the pigeons..CC shooting from the hip...LOL
Expect a diversion and a long rally of printed attacks from all sides now...Beeno's Draad's and Seb's diplomatic attempts to create harmony and peace on this board over the last few weeks all gone to waste....hahahahaha.
The really funny thing here, Sebastien is that while both are trying so hard to differ from each other, they've ended up being exactly like each other.
You can hardly tell one from the other.
Oh well ... I'll be quiet now.
Have you joined the Fantasy pool yet, Sebastien? Why not? There's plenty of room for you. You aren't going to leave me as the only noob, are you?
Liar
I have a serious problem here with your deceptiveness. De Jongh played two starting tests in 2012 and was so poor that he was never in tests before that BS selections by Coetzee in 2016. In both tests in 2012 he went AWOL and showed zero in anything. In both the 2016 tests he failed as well.
He played oodles of games in Super Rugby and the stats I used was in that format of the game. These stats are on ESPN and was discussed on this site many times before. By the way we always used ESPN stats on site - why suddenly the deviation doos?
"I am very hopeful for the Bok this year. Haven't felt like this for ages.
Really?
That's where we fall apart.....all we do is hope only to end up crying in our beers. If the right players are selected and if the national coach chooses a pattern of play to back his selections then I'd also have hope. Until then I'll wait and see.
What would you call your claim of a 90% tackle rate when it in fact was less than that?
A mistake? A fabrication? A thumbsuck ... or could it be a lie?
Call it whatever you want ... it remains an untruth.
Why change from the usual stats go to forum of ESPN? Didn't it support your argument? Does that not confirm that you use and twist facts as you go along?
The mere fact that you claim never to lie is a lie in itself. You have conjured bull shit stories on many occasions, Mozart. I have witnessed it for myself. All in the name of saving face ... and no ... I am not going to scour the archives to prove it. I don't have the time and I'm not as desperate to prove you a liar as you are to disprove your accusers. We both know the truth here.
I'm afraid the halo you so desperately want us to believe you have, has slipped, and is now an ankle bracelet.
I have decided that it does not help to respond to Mozart's twisted stories. Better to ignore them and at best have a good laugh at them otherwise you get annoyed and get suckered into the pool of BS Mozart thrives in.
I have decided that it does not help to respond to Mozart's twisted stories. Better to ignore them and at best have a good laugh at them otherwise you get annoyed and get suckered into the pool of BS Mozart thrives in.
https://youtu.be/41GPEdH2OZc
An apology for what? Calling you a liar?
No, Mozart ... I don't think an apology is in order at all. Perhaps from you ... but undoubtedly that won't be something I'll ever see.
Mike, the day you start ignoring Moz will be the day the dams in Cape Town is 100% full again!
I think that you are correct Draad. I did a Super Rugby stats evaluation numeral times iro De Jongh and Steyn on this site and caught Mozart out all the time. De Jongh started in exactly four test matches since 2012 and was so poor that he was never selected again. In Super Rugby where he played regularly since 2012 he never was even remotely near a 75% tackle success rate.
On Fat Fransie I responded when -
* Mozart moaned about the defensive stats of De Allende; and
* suggested that Fat Fransie return as center.
When it transpired that Steyn's defensive stats were worse than De Allendes's and his contribution to attacking play was virtually zero compared to De Allende - Mozart came with a classic to the effect that Steyn's real value to the team is not reflected in his stats and that he is a better player than any other center in SA.
I do think that a person should stop looking at Mozart - we know by now what he really contributes to the site - the sane repetitive BS all the time.
Mozart
Can you read English fool? I reefer to his performance in the vast majority of games he played in in Super Rugby since 2012 - not the four tests you dealt with. In two of those four games De Jongh went AWOL to avoid making difficult tackles. He ducked out of such tackles constantly = also n Super Rugby level.
It is for the latter reason I am not interested on the games he played in on test level where you stats are absolute BS.
How many years ago was that - near4ly a decade I believe. Since then he has been run over constantly by bigger players or got absent from tackling with a purpose. Stop spouting BS - we know by now how you operate.
You have been punting De Jongh for years and spun so many yarns to support that idiocy - most of those really in the BS area or of misrepresentation and lies. Then there is the issue of Fat Fransie whom you are still punting. .
