MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Jul 2019, 02:15#1
It started with a handling error by Vermeulen.....the first I can remember from him, he has great hands. Okay, now we have got that out of the way....why was it not defended?
Firstly the pass to Barrett was perfect....launching him at pace. Too much pace for Am who should probably have gone for the ankle tap....or if not stayed on his feet.
But there were three chasers and Willie ahead.....Goodhue was a step behind Allende and level with Mapimpi. The ever present Mostert was running back at top pace but further away.
Allende took himself out first by veering towards Barrett and then slowing down for no reason. Mapimpi hovered and finally set after Goodhue ankle tapping him in the in goal.....Mostert didn't have the pace to catch Goodhue from behind.
The chief villain here was Allende. He should have run Barrett into Willie's tackle, he had step on Goodhue and that pass to the centre should never have been on.
Just one more case in the long history of test losing incidents involving Allende. His mind switches off in these moments.....his body language said c'est la vie.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Jul 2019, 15:43#8
All Allende had to do .... carthorse that he is....was to continue running flat out. If he did that Goodhue may very well have made up the metre Allende had on him. But it's doubtful in 20 metres he could have taken 2 metres off him and taken a pass.
Mapimpi was a metre behind and could also have made himself a factor if he went flat out.
Allende slowed down when he saw he couldn't get to Barrett .......as opposed to thinking about cutting off a pass.
Tokkie's 10 metres ahead is another stinking lie. Allende simply gave up.....I'm guessing because he didn't want to be shown up for pace.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Jul 2019, 15:54#9
Actually looking at it frame by frame.....it's even worse. Allende drifts towards Barrett and then gives up, obstructing Mapimpi who has to manoeuvre round him to continue the chase......Allende slow, dumb and uncompetitive. He never even made a full hearted effort.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Jul 2019, 16:34#13
No it's an analytical person who can project outcomes....doing that. Look at it again....if Allende runs flat out he is in the lane between Barrett and Goodhue. The pass would not have been possible!
Unfortunately education has declined so dramatically analysis is no longer part of the equation. What I'm asking Allende to do happens in school boy matches every week.....and is the way Paulse totally negated Lomu.
Get with it!
RORooinek
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RORooinekCaptain18,117 posts
30 Jul 2019, 17:52#19
"No it's an analytical person who can project outcomes . . ."
No, it's a drunken and prejudiced old fool who never played a minute of rugby in his life but spends all his time hanging out on this forum trying to pretend he's an expert.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
30 Jul 2019, 18:08#20
Forget all the prejudicial bullshit. The try was the result of Vermeulen losing possession and Barrett skinning Am highlighting either Am’s lack of pace or Barrett’s sheer pace.
Barrett is deceptively quick and it’s a real strength of his
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Jul 2019, 18:18#21
Hahahaha so one of you chaps is wackhead....that figures. I guarantee you Nienaber is showing this clip and telling his backline players to never give up the chase.
Once again it's obvious if Allende ran flat out on the line Goodhue ran the pass could never be made.....unless of course he is soooooo slow Goodhue could pass him and take a pass without him being a hindrance.
Possible....I have to concede that.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Jul 2019, 18:19#22
If your Auntie had balls.....you might have had some Poofter.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
30 Jul 2019, 18:32#23
de Allende has almost zero blame for that try but because it was de Allende he is featuring in your take.
The blame lies with Vermeulen and Am end of
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Jul 2019, 18:41#24
Vermeulen lost a ball ....it happens.....he was culpable for that incident, nothing more.
Am was gassed.....that's an issue. He isn't the fastest, but nor is Nkosi.
Allende could have prevented the try if he made a full hearted effort and used his brain. That's an issue because it's happened before and will again.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
30 Jul 2019, 18:55#25
Oh what bullshit de Allende’s culpability is practically zero.
Nkosi is no slower than any other wing playing out there bar the odd runaway
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Jul 2019, 23:35#27
I'm not asking you to accept the truth Tokkie.....merely telling it. Use it, discard it.....who cares.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Jul 2019, 05:36#31
This is only garbage if you believe it's okay for a NZ centre to burn past a Bok centre who has a metre advantage.....and then for that Bok centre to just give up. Slow and gutless.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Jul 2019, 14:44#33
Goodhue was a metre behind Allende running in the same direction....he burned past him to get the pass in the clear. Is it okay for an AB centre to be 3 metres faster than a Bok centre over 20 metres? Yep in Tokkie world...no problem.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Jul 2019, 15:58#35
Poofter nobody said he was carrying the ball.....Barrett was. The point is Goodhue burned past the slow/not engaged Allende.......making an easy pass possible. To be accused of lying by you of all people is a joke and another lie
sharkbok
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sharkbokCaptain23,249 posts
31 Jul 2019, 18:04#38
I doubt Delande could have caught him, but he should have tried. At the very least it would have closed down space, and limited the options. The extra pressure, may have helped force an error.
Delande was on a Sunday stroll.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Jul 2019, 21:20#39
Have a look at the relative positions on the Bok 10 metre line. Both Allende and Goodhue paused to see whether Barrett connected with the long pass. Both set off downfield after that....Goodhue was not at pace, but he was a metre behind.
Over the next 10 metres he accelerated seeing the opportunity......and Allende coasted. So he passed Allende and was in the clear for the Barrett pass.
No reason Allende couldn't have remained between Goodhue and Barrett other than he simply didn't match Goodhue's acceleration. He was oblivious to the risk.
