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The image that defined rugby in 2022

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Dec 2022, 06:05
#1
26 Dec 2022, 06:05#1

There were many memorable visuals in 2022…but the one I’d settle for occurred in the English test. The commentators were talking up Mostert and he ended up as the MOM, so the cameras swung onto him. Mostert was bleeding freely from a cut under the left eye. Kolisi spotted the cut and without asking wiped the blood off vigorously with his wrist band, which undoubtedly was pretty grimy by then.


Mostert never even flinched, just part of the game. Rugby remains a pretty basic activity, what with the blood, the snot, the sweat and the spit. But I have to admit the germaphobe in me flinched as Kolisi went to work.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
26 Dec 2022, 15:44
#2
26 Dec 2022, 15:44#2
I recall that but also recall laughing that Mostert got MOM No ways was he MOM
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Dec 2022, 16:04
#3
26 Dec 2022, 16:04#3

Hahahaha….strike!

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
26 Dec 2022, 16:06
#4
26 Dec 2022, 16:06#4
Wink wink
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ChippoPro3,372 posts
27 Dec 2022, 00:36
#5
27 Dec 2022, 00:36#5
Ya saffex. We all know who your mom is. Anyhow… Rugby is the most beautiful game on earth.
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Dec 2022, 08:03
#6
27 Dec 2022, 08:03#6

No, women's brach volleyball is, but it's not about beauty...

MO
MoonroverPro1,973 posts
27 Dec 2022, 09:51
#7
27 Dec 2022, 09:51#7

Three decades of Springbok rugby on Kyknet started 19 Dec is a good production. Shows 30 selected Boks.

Their career beginnings is especially interesting.Had Pieter sStef, Beast, Rolls Royce Joubert on lastnight. 

BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
27 Dec 2022, 10:54
#8
27 Dec 2022, 10:54#8

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DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
27 Dec 2022, 12:32
#9
27 Dec 2022, 12:32#9

Steph? What was there to show? 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Dec 2022, 12:58
#10
27 Dec 2022, 12:58#10

"Steph? What was there to show? "

It's not funny, seems you suffer from crayfish syndrome...

Bob, that's a good vid...Mostert punches way above his weight and gives everything on the field...reminds me of Scalla...and is also prone to the odd brainfart...like Schulk...great player, we should be glad to have him...we are really lucky to have a number of exceptional test players...our whole front row + their bench replacements, Eben, DdA, Am and Kolbe.

MO
MoonroverPro1,973 posts
27 Dec 2022, 13:34
#11
27 Dec 2022, 13:34#11

"Steph? What was there to show" 

He was part of our 2012 Junior Bok winners. Him, Pollard and Kitsoff. Only Boks I noticed who have won junior and senior cups. 


They showed a few of his good runs,not slow at all. His smart link play has flattened many teams. 




DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
27 Dec 2022, 14:51
#12
27 Dec 2022, 14:51#12

Anomalies. 

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Dec 2022, 15:08
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27 Dec 2022, 15:08#13

 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Dec 2022, 16:25
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27 Dec 2022, 16:25#14

The incredible ongoing delusion of Dud Toit. Other than frightening poor George Ford I can think of nothing this man has done other than the occasional pick and go. On the negative side I cite incidents like the Adams try in the semis, where he left his side of the scrum unmarked, numerous lineout botches, toothless runs, zero turnovers, crazy positioning on the wing, a red card in our biggest game this year, frequent injury absences…on and on. 

He looks like the classical Afrikaner prototype, I get that. Perhaps his image should be in the Voortrekker Monument. It should be nowhere near the Bok team.

Now I’m getting tired of schooling you chaps. Read this post and repeat it to yourself whenever you get the urge to Dud, Dud, Dud.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
27 Dec 2022, 17:17
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27 Dec 2022, 17:17#15
I feel the same way trying to school you on the utterly useless Mostert who is about as physical as a ballerina in a tutu I think if nothing else, the fact that PSDT has won the prestigious award of world player of the year kind of makes an absolute mockery of anything you have to say about him. If you really think that such an average player would win that award then I’m afraid I’d have to conclude you were stupid but I know you are not, so it’s a difficult one to explain PSDT is physical, he was the Bok go to for carrying it up in contact. He gave the Boks great go forward setting up the next phase. He was also very good at disrupting the opposition attacks in the same way Faf was. It’s for these 2 aspects of play and a huge engine that he won the award It’s the job of a blindside to act like a more mobile lock, it’s why Mostert is so crap, he fails in his primary function of being physical The biggest joke of all is that you find favour in the less physical Mostert in a position that requires physicality At full strength the Bok 23 contains PSDT and does not include Mostert - this is a fact
MO
MoonroverPro1,973 posts
27 Dec 2022, 18:06
#16
27 Dec 2022, 18:06#16

Anomaly, Voortrekker Monument, toothless, injury absences .... what a joke. 

Psdt has had serious injuries

Three ops on a leg that could have been amputated, huge shoulder injury in 21'.Must we get the X-rays to convince you. 


MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Dec 2022, 18:47
#17
27 Dec 2022, 18:47#17

Of course he was seriously injured. The point is he is very injury prone….has been his whole career. So it’s hard to build a team around him, even if you are deluded enough to try to do that. Mostert by contrast could be run over by one of Putin’s tanks and he would be ready for the next game.

But convince me, tell me one single act Dud has pulled since the WC which was even vaguely important in winning a test.

DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
27 Dec 2022, 19:09
#18
27 Dec 2022, 19:09#18

Great players have great moments. I can cite dozens of references of such moments for Morné, Frans, Fourie, Bakkies, Smit et al. The likes of Damian and Steph... maybe a couple of incidents. There's a reason why Damian and Steph rank so very low for any statistical measure. Steph is statistically the worst South African defender in all the time that stats have been collected. His carries rank bottom of any list of players from any country. No great presence in the lineout, the breakdown. These fad junky favourites aren't good at anything. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
27 Dec 2022, 19:09
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27 Dec 2022, 19:09#19
Geez Moz it’s a team game, a player like PSDT contributes to the whole by setting up phases or disrupting attacks We don’t expect to see him making a sniping break setting up a try You are correct, Mostert is durable for sure but the problem is he is physically ineffective Why are you happy with a physically challenged player being selected as a Bok lock or blindside? Saw some family Instagram photos of him the other day - he is skinny with zero muscle definition I get that he has a big heart, has a big engine, is certainly durable and one you take into the trenches with you. But that’s all great if he was actually physical. Every time he gets selected we are conceding an element of physicality and that’s a fact
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Dec 2022, 19:32
#20
27 Dec 2022, 19:32#20

"He looks like the classical Afrikaner prototype, I get that. Perhaps his image should be in the Voortrekker Monument. It should be nowhere near the Bok team.

Now I’m getting tired of schooling you chaps. Read this post and repeat it to yourself whenever you get the urge to Dud, Dud, Dud."


You just don't get it...you're almost there, you get it with Eben, but you totally miss the boat on some of the other stuff...you call it laer mentality, it's not, it's just our fighting spirit...never say die...Rassie gets it and exploited it...he lit the spirit, shared it with the rest of the team...gave us grit...you don't see it because you don't want to accept that it's there because of your dislike of the man. 

AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
27 Dec 2022, 20:55
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27 Dec 2022, 20:55#21

Mostert would be my second forward choice after Eben for any Springbok team selection.

Not only is he durable but he is Springbok through and through both on and off the field..

He lays it all on the line as a lock or flank game after game,

I am more concerned about the 60 minute player on the other flank when it comes to durability and laying everything on the line each and every game.

But we the "Touchline Springboks" also know as "TV Springboks" are a difficult mob to please irrespective of team or players.

Bokke.




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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Dec 2022, 21:06
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27 Dec 2022, 21:06#22

"Mostert would be my second forward choice after Eben for any Springbok team selection."

I wasn't his biggest fan, but he won me over...we need consistency in selection and Lood and RG can't stay fit...100% Mostert ahead of Orie or Moerat...I  like Moerat, but Franco should start ahead of him.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Dec 2022, 21:16
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27 Dec 2022, 21:16#23

Perhaps I don’t get it Draad…..you chaps are so in love with suffering. History’s original victims….better to be smart and win. That’s what I like about Eben. You won’t see him bawling on the sidelines because he took a swan dive into a player’s head and broke his cheekbone. He thinks he is the best and takes a step back for no man.

As for Harrassmiss, he may be able to motivate the tribe, you guys have always been suckers for the Afrikaner intellectuals, the dominees and slim Jannie types.  Dis ‘n slim man, how often did I hear that about some mediocre sociology professor type.

Personally I think it’s this very attitude that holds you back, that drives you inwards….that produced a bound to fail solution like apartheid.

Actually you chaps are a bit like the Germans, dominant or dominated…at the throat or at the feet. I don’t know how many Afrikaner intellectuals told me how great things were going to be after the change. You couldn’t reason with them, they knew.

Like most South Africans I have Afrikaner in the gene pool…makes one more athletic, but you have to watch the victim tendencies.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Dec 2022, 21:20
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27 Dec 2022, 21:20#24

Your image ain't showing on my side.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Dec 2022, 21:32
#25
27 Dec 2022, 21:32#25

Sorry, can’t get the image to post.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Dec 2022, 21:38
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27 Dec 2022, 21:38#26

It happens...

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Dec 2022, 21:51
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27 Dec 2022, 21:51#27

"As for Harrassmiss, he may be able to motivate the tribe, you guys have always been suckers for the Afrikaner intellectuals, the dominees and slim Jannie types.  Dis ‘n slim man, how often did I hear that about some mediocre sociology professor type."


It's not only about motivation...it's about understanding adversity...nothing to do with victimhood...it's about fighting on against all odds...never giving up, no matter who's telling us how futile the fight is. It's not holding us back, it's keeping us where we're supposed to be, not only surviving but coming out on top, more often than the odds would suggest we should....ons koppigheid made us who we are...irritates the hell out of my wife but it also gives good returns...

CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
27 Dec 2022, 21:51
#28
27 Dec 2022, 21:51#28

Rugby is the beautiful game, 

I cannot understand why soccer is the most popular sport,  it's bloody boring compared to rugby, league and dare I say it NFL.

I know it's just my opinion but fuck me soccer is like watching tiddlywinks played by a bunch of effeminate men.

How they let all the Hollywood's and  the abuse of the refs be part of their game is beyond me

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Dec 2022, 22:08
#29
27 Dec 2022, 22:08#29

"How they let all the Hollywood's and  the abuse of the refs be part of their game is beyond me"

There's no abuse of refs, that's  hirse sh!t, but they aren't above criticism and should be held accountable just as any other professional profession...this notion that rugby refs should be beyond critique is total BS.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Dec 2022, 22:09
#30
27 Dec 2022, 22:09#30

Nothing in sports like a fast wing trying to beat the cover. Although I will admit walking through the gates at the London Olympics and seeing the flame was pretty cool.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Dec 2022, 22:17
#31
27 Dec 2022, 22:17#31

Eben running through Bismarck was awesome too!

CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
27 Dec 2022, 22:57
#32
27 Dec 2022, 22:57#32

There is plenty of abuse to the ref in soccer, just watch every penalty given, you get 5 or 6 screaming banshees surrounding the ref and he wipes his pussie while he takes it.

Bloody appalling, time to question refs is after the match. Just hope this BS never slips into a rugby game.

I think you will find yourself in the minority that thinks thi s type of behavior on a sports field is Ok


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Dec 2022, 23:58
#33
27 Dec 2022, 23:58#33

No. I agree with you, players should not be allowed to question refereeing decisions during the game....any sort of misbehavior towards the ref should be harshly delt with during and after the match...I"m just saying that referees should be subjeced to performance review like any other profession....and should be open to critique if needed....over protection of reffs is daft...we all need pressure to perform better.

MO
MoonroverPro1,973 posts
28 Dec 2022, 07:48
#34
28 Dec 2022, 07:48#34

Glad Ole Mozie has someone he compares du Toit to,however wasn't it Bakkies who said that Eben is off injured too much. 

I would state categorically that Eben has been off more often than Stef for minor injuries. 


DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
28 Dec 2022, 10:38
#35
28 Dec 2022, 10:38#35

Eben is more available than Steph. He also applies himself in games. Why should a player who missed 60% of his tackles and who imposes very small carries be injured so often? Eben ploughs into defenders and drags then around, he is involved in very physical confrontations. The two cannot be compared. A bull and a gnat have nothing in common. 

MO
MoonroverPro1,973 posts
28 Dec 2022, 12:23
#36
28 Dec 2022, 12:23#36

But I regret that he only shows his best face(Eben) with the Springboks. In Toulon, he is still a little injured, concussed and in the end, never plays-(-(Bakkies tweet. 

The same for the Stormers... Can't remember how many times he didn't pitch. Sharks are gonna have the same problem.

Amongst other injuries in 2021 it was his calf. He 2022 his finger.2020 concussion as Bakkies mentioned. 2018.. 8 months off shoulder.... must I carry on

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
28 Dec 2022, 13:36
#37
28 Dec 2022, 13:36#37

Sad to see Bakkies succumb to the green monster...

DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
28 Dec 2022, 14:52
#38
28 Dec 2022, 14:52#38

Bakkies has been very supportive of the years. I highly doubt he is envious. Besides, as good as Eben is, Bakkies is the premier enforcer of South African rugby. Behind him? Danie Rossouw. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Dec 2022, 14:59
#39
28 Dec 2022, 14:59#39
Bakkies was great but Eben is next level Eben is even more of an enforcer than Bakkies was and twice the athlete Eben is a far far more skilled player than Bakkies ever was Eben is the best enforcer to ever play the game, followed by Bakkies
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MpowerPro5,061 posts
28 Dec 2022, 15:47
#40
28 Dec 2022, 15:47#40

Mostert eats nails for breakfast, lunch and dinner.....ever ready for the task @ hand....Pieter,s favourite song is " Cry me a River " from Julie Londen 

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