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The oldest beats the youngest at the Honda Claasic

Started by Mozart8 REPLIES71 VIEWS· 02 Mar 2015, 19:12
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Mar 2015, 19:12
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02 Mar 2015, 19:12#1

Padraig  Harrington 43 and a kid called Berger 23, were paired in the playoff of the Honda Classic. Harrington who has been on a journey not unlike Pilgrims Progress knocked it to within three feet on the impossibly difficult 17. The kid went in the drink. Maturity matters.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Mar 2015, 19:14
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02 Mar 2015, 19:14#2
How old is the world number one right now????  
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Mar 2015, 21:29
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02 Mar 2015, 21:29#3
 A maturing 25.7. But Rory like Tiger and Jack is a generational phenomenon. The top ten has three players in their twenties, six players in their thirties and one in their forties.
The average age is 33, young for a golf top ten.
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
02 Mar 2015, 21:41
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02 Mar 2015, 21:41#4
 Shame Golf isn't rugby.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Mar 2015, 22:10
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02 Mar 2015, 22:10#5
Well how about soccer. Respected journo Coggin's latest ten best current soccer player list....Messi, Ronaldo Suarez,  Iniesta, Toure, Bale, Lahm, Robben, van Persie and Ibrahinovic....averages out at 30.1.
Oldest player is Ibrahinovic at 33.4. Youngest is Bale at 25.6.

All this in a sport with a higher stamina requirement than rugby....kinda makes you think. As rugby gets more professional ages will go up, not down.  
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Mar 2015, 22:55
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02 Mar 2015, 22:55#6
 Ah so the number 1 ranked golfer is young.....case closed.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Mar 2015, 23:03
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02 Mar 2015, 23:03#7

Dave sadly it's your mind that's closed. In sport after sport champs are getting older....it's logical, athletes are making a greater effort to look after themselves. 

 

Australian Tennis Open won by a 33.4 year old woman and a 27.7 year old man. Average age 30.5

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Mar 2015, 11:06
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04 Mar 2015, 11:06#8

Yeah Moz in some sports it works but with rugby it does not.....the younger players are mostly better, its just the reality of the physical nature of the game.......all that contact over the years takes its toll.......the body is pretty worn out by 30 odd.

 

Etzebeth, Willemse, PSDT, Lood, du Plessis, Botha are all twice the players Matfield and Bakkies are now.

 

Serfontein, Frans and de Allende are far better than the present day Jean

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Mar 2015, 11:17
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04 Mar 2015, 11:17#9
 Dave
I have lost interest in all the ramblings about ages of players.  The story about players getting older means nothing, unless - as Jean de Villiers put it - they train twice as hard as they did when they were younger.
There is no sign that Matfield is doing that - he is slower than he used to be - is physically weaker and he is a nonentity in  the Tight 5, that is reality and the end of the story.
In the case of Bakkies Botha he realized what his deficiencies were and bowed out on his own.
As to Jean de Villiers - I disagreed with you in 2013 - when he had a very good year.  Last year - being a year older - he was sub-standard and that is a fact.  The injury he sustained will not help in his recovery to play acceptable rugby in future - so he is off my list of inside centers as well.
The one player you did not mention is Jannie du Plessis.  He really has been sub-standard this year in scrumming and did squat outside of the scrums.   If a player struggle against props like Mellet and Mienie - then he is really past tense.  
 
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