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The Origin of the Paris Attacks

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ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
02 Dec 2015, 23:51
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02 Dec 2015, 23:51#1
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the following video shows the origin of the ISIS, and guess what? it's nothing related with something inherently wrong within the arabs or the muslims (as many in this site say) but with,....



yes, the USA and their allies created, funded and armed the ISIS.
If you still don't believe it check what the US General McInerney has to say about it:




or what said the retired Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, head of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) when the ISIS was created. He couldn't be more clear: "It was a williful decision" to ignore the reports stating that the Salafist, the Muslim Brotherhood, and AQI [Al- Qaeda in Iraq] are the major forces driving the insurgency in Syria,”




The USA created ISIS the same way they created Al-Qaeda which is an acronim for database in arabic, the database the CIA had of the muyahideen and talibans recruited for the afghan war. The CIA trained and armed Osama bin Laden and the 4.000 men he brought to Afghanistan which constituted the base of Al-Qaeda.
Untill the moment the USA armed and trained the mujahideen for fighting the afghan goverment through the terrorism (their first targets were teachers and little girls in schools in 1979 before the soviet army enter the country) there wasn't any yihadist terrorist organization. After that Al-Qaeda and ISIS came.


WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
03 Dec 2015, 00:08
#2
03 Dec 2015, 00:08#2
 Hi there BP !Isis actually hates the Iranians more than they do the West ,which is why the Saudi squeezers helped create them in the first place .The US is too naive as regards other peoples politics and religion to ever be involved in the millenia old mess that is the middle east .Originally and to a certain extent even now they still think you can talk to groups like isis as though they were a political group with a semblance of rationality .I recall Hillary Clinton [ who is normally pretty clued up ] saying how she would bring peace to the region in a years time .Had to laugh at that one .Truth is any organization that promotes terror via their religion no matter what religion it is should be treated like a rabid animal ,cant be reasoned with or cured .Oh and its funny how when it was Russian boys getting killed al quada  and the taliban were heroic freedom fighters .
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
03 Dec 2015, 00:41
#3
03 Dec 2015, 00:41#3
 Just reading about a journalist who was captured by isis and what he has to say is interesting .Basically he says airstrikes are useless and they are when your enemy is surrounded by civilians who you dont want to turn into new recruits by killing their families and friends .Which is on the money ,plus he says the sight of all those people fleeing their 'Islamic Paradise " has been a major blow to them which is why the Paris attacks have been carried out to turn the west against the refugees .And given that there are many brain-dead individuals like beendik around who unerringly fall for this simplest of ploys dragging politicians mainly concerned about thier jobs along with them and e' voila'.Look at conflicts like Viet-Nam where bombing quite often just became a recruiting tool for those being bombed.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
03 Dec 2015, 10:23
#4
03 Dec 2015, 10:23#4
 wared DUD name me anoter religion in the world who behaves like islam. Noen oak none. Yet you wanty christains oput down like rtabid dogs bein g the pyscho you are.164 jihadist versu in the koran which muslims are obliged to follow. That is what fulkes themwhile ppor wared DUD buries his pin sized head in the sand muslims get on with jihad.
Through the centuries muslims have confused the enemy by protesting they are peaceful while carrying out jihad and gobbling up counties and beheading the infidels.
Its been going on for centuries but gullible boneheads like ou warped are still being led by the nose.
A nice history of islamic warfare against infidels over the centuries begining with mohammed can be found at;http://www1.cbn.com/churchandministry/1400-years-of-christian-islamic-struggle

Halk bakes like warped DUD and plump would to well to read it but frankly they do not have the inttectual ability as it is a few pages long.It isa horrendous account of centuries of jihadist warefare. What we are seeing today is only a continuation of this horrific stuff.  Stand up to it or be enslaved or beheaded. 
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
03 Dec 2015, 10:32
#5
03 Dec 2015, 10:32#5
 All those christians in Bosnia for starters dumbars.e
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
03 Dec 2015, 13:24
#6
03 Dec 2015, 13:24#6
 don't divert the question with medieval wars, Mr. Been.
If you want to find a warrior religion that's without doubt the christianity. They didn't even need any other religion, they fought btwin them for centuries in all the religious wars across Europe, the German peasant war, the Schmalkaldic Wars, the 8 years war, the 30 years war,...... there was such a slaughter all over the continent that there wasn't enough people to harvest and hanger spread as every kind of infectious iilnesses spread when they couldn't bury all the bodies, etc, etc. and they had to establish and sign the Westfalia treaty which didn't stop the religious wars but established some rules.

All the wars in your article were imperial wars, btwin empires with diferent religion but imperial wars.
The yihad that you mention is a internal fight (each muslim with himself to find the way of Alah) for the great majority of the muslims. The only ones who changed this concept were the Muslim Brotherhood and the wahabism.
The Muslim Brothers develop the idea of the external war, against other people, and included other muslims btwin the ones who can be fighted mainly through Sayyib Qot while being funded and helped by the USA to fight Nasser.
The wahabism was a brand of the islam followed by four insanes in the desert of Arabia until the Saud dinasty, with the knowledge of the USA and their consent and approval, spent a incalculable fortune since the late 70's to spread it through muslim and no-muslim countries. Only btwin 1982 and 2002 they built 1.500 mosques, 200 islamic centers and 2.000 islamic schools in non-muslims countries, mainly Europe.
The merge of the wahabism and the tafkir ideology of the Muslim brothers, both helped by the USA, is what originated the yihadist terrorism.
Until the USA wasn't involved there wasn't any yihadist terrorist group.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Dec 2015, 14:12
#7
03 Dec 2015, 14:12#7
 The US has had no idea of what is going on in the ME or North Africa and has been so for years.   They did support the Salafists - the parent body of ISIS - in Syria and took the side of the Sunni's in Iraq when they started the War in Iraq.  
Wherever they have turned to in the ME they have supported the Sunni elements - and the Sunni's are the practitioners of Wahabism, Safalists and other extremist elements without realizing that they are being used by the Saudi's and the extremist elements in the ME before they actually  show their real colours.  
 
    
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
03 Dec 2015, 19:11
#8
03 Dec 2015, 19:11#8
 no, mike, the US knows perfectly well what's going on in the ME and North Africa, they are the principal reponsibles of it and the videos above prove it.
They did exactly the same in every country: they create, fund and arm the most extremist groups and then (or in the case of Irak before) bomb the country till its complete destruction. They did it in Afghanistan, they did it in Irak, they did it in Lybia, they did it in Syria, in South Sudan,...
Do you think that with 17 intelligence agencies, with a billionaire budget and with thousands of people working on it, the USA can make the same mistakes once and again?
This is clearly their strategy, completely destroy those countries and have them in permanent war btwin the diferent factions, the diferent warlords, backed all by them.



WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
03 Dec 2015, 23:09
#9
03 Dec 2015, 23:09#9
 BP I think you give the US too much credit for having an actual strategy .They are very simplistic when it comes to wars involving religion and fanatics ,they still think they can control what they have created .They used to meddle constantly in South American p olitics too with disastrous results.
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oimateyPro1,870 posts
04 Dec 2015, 22:24
#10
04 Dec 2015, 22:24#10
Too bad Ayn Rand isn't around to write "America Shrugged" - would be an interesting read.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Dec 2015, 22:50
#11
04 Dec 2015, 22:50#11
 Read my post its all coming out and wise up. No excuse for being clue less.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Dec 2015, 04:15
#12
06 Dec 2015, 04:15#12
'Irak' says it all....piffle. Some chaps see a conspirator under every bush....the US is very fallibly doing its best. But with all these nutters around even the best of intentions can easily be nobbled. Basque is about as lost as a woolly thinker can be.  
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Dec 2015, 06:35
#13
06 Dec 2015, 06:35#13
 If the US did not meddle in the ME and North Africa and forced Israel into not practising apartheid in the case of the Occupied territories and accept reasonable borders fir a two state solution - the problems in the ME would have been limited.  But they decided on who should rule whom in the ME and supported the worst elements elements of Islamic followers and then wonders at what went wrong.       
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
06 Dec 2015, 13:15
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06 Dec 2015, 13:15#14
 @mozart,

'Irak' says it all....piffle."

really? this is all what you can argue? an ortographic mistake? again?

it's so poor and low,..... don't embarrass yourself this way,... sometimes is better to say nothing
For your knowledge, "Irak" is the way it's spelled in spanish and in basque,... so, yes, sometimes when I write quickly I mix it with the English spelling. Any complaint?

Conspirator? do you think that the DIA and the Pentagon are conspirators? and retired US General McInerney and Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, head of the DIA? I just quoted what they said, that the ISIS was created and helped by the USA and their allies.
There are many other "conspirators" saying the same, like former General Wesley Clark, former head of NATO,.... but all these proves means nothing facing the full of proves and elaborated answer you gave
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Dec 2015, 13:31
#15
06 Dec 2015, 13:31#15
 Thwe origins of the Paris attacks is the koran which requires muslims to do jihad.Its that simple. No koran no jihad. 
It really matters not what the USA did or didnt do. Jihad is the requirement and a world domianted by muslims and all under sharia law.  That is the foundational problem and its all in the koran. Just as Hitlers beleifs were all in Min Kampf.
You have to be extremely dumb not to understand something so very obvious and simple.  But never mind even if you still are floundering Europe and the Stat es are waking up rapidly!
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
06 Dec 2015, 13:50
#16
06 Dec 2015, 13:50#16
 You know all about being extremely dumb doncha el-stupido ?I see one of those douchbag "christians " that beensh!thead loves so very much ,jerry falwell jnr is telling all the dim-witted students at his college for the illiterate ,indigent and incoherent to carry concealed weapons so as to 'kill all those muslims'What a charming example of christian love eh wot ?What would Jeebers say ?
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
06 Dec 2015, 14:51
#17
06 Dec 2015, 14:51#17
 Mr. Been,
How many times do I have to explain that the jihad is an internal and personal question  for the inmense majority of muslims?
their willing of dominating the world is exactly the same as the other main monotheistic religion, the christianity. Both religions have the fool idea that they are the only true religion and that through proselytism and preaching they have to extend the only true religion all over the world.
Claiming for wars against the muslims in overall and their expulsion you are in the same boat as those making the terrorist attacks. If you had born in the ME you would have been one of them, no doubt.

In the case of the wars in the ME, the religion is just the bait, the bait that the foolests and dumbests take,.... but the one who has the rod are the USA. The fools giving their lives and taking away hundreds of them in the name of ISIS or Al-Qaeda or whatever are just a piece of the plans of the USA
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
06 Dec 2015, 23:56
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06 Dec 2015, 23:56#18
Dumbasque you might as well say the Nazis were created by the Versailles treaty...there may be some kind of linkage, many things in life have unintended consequences...but here is the thing, there was no intent. Nor was there in this case in spite of all the nutters who claim there was.
The truth is there are many groups who are uncompetitive in today's competitive world and then lay the blame on somebody else. Doesn't mean we. Have to believe that nonsense.
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
07 Dec 2015, 01:51
#19
07 Dec 2015, 01:51#19
 don't divert the question with the nazis and Versailles,..... it's another very diferent story,.....
"there was no intent"? and how do you know it? do you think that you know more and better than the head of the Defese Intelligence Agency?
he says it very clearly: "it was a williful decision" to let create the ISIS and Islamic Caliphate, watch the video above.

According to the Citizens’ Commission on Benghazi created at the US Congress (House of Representatives):
In Libya “the U.S. was fully aware of and facilitating the delivery of weapons to the Al Qaeda-dominated rebel militias throughout the 2011 rebellion.”
“The result in Libya, across much of North Africa, and beyond has been utter chaos, disruption of Libya’s oil industry, the spread of dangerous weapons (including surface-to-air missiles), and the empowerment of jihadist organizations like Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood.”
“After Gadhafi is deposed and Stevens was appointed U.S. ambassador to Libya, the flow of weapons reverses. Now Stevens has the job of overseeing the shipment of arms from Libya to Syria to arm the rebels fighting Assad, some of whom ultimately become al-Nusra in Syria and some become ISIS.”

So the USA armed and backed the Muyahideen and Taliban in Afghanistan, trained and armed Osama bin Laden and his men to create Al-Qaeda, after the 9/11 knowing perfectly well what they are capable of, arm Al-Qaeda and other jihadist groups in Lybia and do the same in Syria and finally create and arm ISIS in Syria,..... but "there was no intent", uh? there was no intent of what?
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Dec 2015, 15:45
#20
07 Dec 2015, 15:45#20
 I think you have your timing wrong...the US helped Osama when he was a freedom fighter helping Afghanistan resist the Russian occupation. If you watched any US TV you would realize McInerney is now a talking head...he has some good points, and some nutty ones.
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
07 Dec 2015, 17:06
#21
07 Dec 2015, 17:06#21
 Nope, I don't have any timing wrong.

In April 1978 in Afghanistan a new government took the power headed by the leftist and progressive Nur Mohammad Taraki, who had been a writer, poet and professor of journalism at the University of Kabul.

"The Taraki government’s first course of action was to declare non-alignment in foreign affairs and to affirm a commitment to Islam within a secular state. Among the much needed reforms, women were given equal rights, and girls were to go to school and be in the same classroom as boys. Child marriages and feudal dowry payments were banned. Labour unions were legalized, and some 10,000 people were released from prisons. Within a short time hundreds of schools and medical clinics were built in the countryside.

The landholding system hadn’t changed much since the feudal period; more than three-quarters of the land was owned by landlords who composed only 3 percent of the rural population. Reforms began on September 1, 1978 by the abolition all debts owed by farmers – landlords and moneylenders had charged up to 45 percent interest. A program was being developed for major land reform, and it was expected that all farm families (including landlords) would be given the equivalent of equal amounts of land.


What happened to this progressive government? In brief, it was undermined by the CIA and the mujahedeen, which triggered a series of events that destroyed the country – and ironically led to the disaster of September 11, 2001 in the USA and to the present chaos and tragedy in Afghanistan...
Most of the 250,000 mullahs were rich landlords who in their sermons told people that only Allah could give them land, and that Allah would object to giving women equal rights or having girls go to school. But the reforms were popular, so these reactionary elements left for Pakistan, as “refugees.” With assistance from Pakistan, they proceeded to conduct raids on the Afghan countryside where they burned clinics and schools, and if they found teachers teaching girls, they would kill the teachers, often disembowelling them in the presence of the children – to instill fear and panic in the population.
Although having no right to interfere in another country’s affairs, the USA viewed the new government as being Marxist and was determined to subvert it. At first unofficially, but officially after July 3, 1979 with President Carter’s authorization, the CIA, along with Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, began to provide military aid and training to the Muslim extremists, who became known as the mujahedeen and “freedom fighters.”

All this took place before any soviet soldier put a foot in the country, which happened in December 1979.

"Zbigniew Brzezinski, president Carter’s National Security Advisor, afterwards bragged that he had convinced Carter to authorize the CIA to set a trap for the Russian bear and to give the USSR the taste of a Vietnam war. Brzezinski saw this as a golden opportunity to fire up the zeal of the most reactionary Muslim fanatics,... and for the next 10 years, with an expenditure of billions of dollars from the USA and Saudi Arabia, and with the recruitment of thousands of non-Afghan Muslims into the jihad (including Osama bin Laden), this army of religious zealots laid waste to the land and people of Afghanistan.”

"Being unable to entice enough Afghanis for this war, the CIA, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan recruited about 35,000 Muslim radicals, from 40 Islamic countries to conduct the war against the Afghan government and the Soviet forces.

The CIA covertly trained and sponsored these foreign warriors, hence the fundamentalism that emerged in Afghanistan is a CIA construct. Although the mujahedeen were referred to as “freedom fighters,” they committed horrific atrocities and were terrorists of the first order.

As reported in US media, a “favourite tactic” of the mujahedeen was “to torture victims [often Russians] by first cutting off their noses, ears, and genitals, then removing one slice of skin after another,” leading to “a slow, very painful death.” The article describes Russian prisoners caged like animals and “living lives of indescribable horror.” (Washington Post, January 13, 1985).

Another publication cites a journalist from the Far Eastern Economic Review reporting that “one [Soviet] group was killed, skinned and hung up in a butcher’s shop” (John Fullerton).

Despite these graphic reports, President Reagan continued to refer to the mujahedeen as “freedom fighters” and in 1985 he invited a group of them to Washington where he entertained them in the Whitehouse. Afterwards, while introducing them to the media, he stated, “These gentlemen are the moral equivalents of America’s founding fathers.”



Here's the interview made by Le Nouvel Observateur to Zbigniew Brzezinski where he confirms that the US Government backed, funded and armed the muyahideen terrorists to provoke the soviet invasion:

How Jimmy Carter and I Started the Mujahideen

The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, also confirm this version in his memoirs “From the Shadows”



AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
07 Dec 2015, 17:08
#22
07 Dec 2015, 17:08#22
 So Osama bin Laden "was a freedom fighter", uh?
you don't need to say more
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Dec 2015, 18:55
#23
07 Dec 2015, 18:55#23
Only in the sense he supported the Afghan fight against Russia....which is a fact. You get trapped in semantics....I put no value positive or negative on freedom fighters. It depends on the cause.
As for the US motivations, you are so far off base it's hardly worth a debate. The  last thing the American voter wants is to be involved in the ME mess. But without any intervention we had events like the Iraq/Iran war and the invasion of Kuwait. It's  a disaster with international involvement. I suppose it's possible things would be better without the help, but history says that's unlikely.
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
07 Dec 2015, 21:37
#24
07 Dec 2015, 21:37#24
 "You get trapped in semantics....I put no value positive or negative on freedom fighters. It depends on the cause."

are you stupid or just pretend to? no matter if you put no positive or negative value, a "freedom fighter" always will be positive because "freedom" has positive value itself, the most positive value.

Anyway, as it's explained above, there wasn't any fight for freedom against "Russia" (I guess you mean the USSR) in Afghanistan. That's pure propaganda.
The USA began his support of the mujahideen and their terrorist attacks against the people of the afghan countryside before the soviet "invasion" to set a trap for the USSR and give them their own Vietnam. Said by Zbigniew Brzezinski, president Carter’s National Security Advisor and architect of the Afghan war, or by Robert Gates former CIA head.
They supported and recruited the most reactionary fanatic religious zealots on the earth (Osama btwin them) who burned clinics and schools, and if they found teachers teaching girls, they would kill the teachers, often disembowelling them in the presence of the children – to instill fear and panic in the population.
Then their “favourite tactic” was “to torture victims [often Russians] by first cutting off their noses, ears, and genitals, then removing one slice of skin after another,” leading to “a slow, very painful death.” The article describes Russian prisoners caged like animals and “living lives of indescribable horror.” (Washington Post, January 13, 1985).

But according to you, these were "freedom fighters",.... when they use the same or other terrorist tactics against the USA they then turn into terrorist. Seems that the Afghan people and soviet soldiers are subhumans for you.


"As for the US motivations, you are so far off base it's hardly worth a debate."

I haven't said a word about motivations yet. I just proved the fact that the USA are behind all the jihadist terrorist groups: the mujahideen, the taliban, Al-Qaeda in Afghanstan before the 9/11 but also after it in Libya, Irak and Syria, and behind the ISIS.
They are also behind all the wars in the ME, all of them illegal. Afghanistan, Irak, Libya, Sudan, South Sudan, Syria, Y emen

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Dec 2015, 01:00
#25
08 Dec 2015, 01:00#25
 Whose freedom moron? Hitler claimed he was liberating the Germans in Austria...a freedom fighter by his definition. And what part of 'I put no value' don't you get? 
As for all this nonsense of the US being the instigator of everything, next you will tell me you and your Shiite brothers love the Sunnis. Quoting from one of your radical sources is not proof...just more disinformation.
But answer this...have you ever been to the US?

AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
08 Dec 2015, 01:59
#26
08 Dec 2015, 01:59#26
 "Hitler claimed he was liberating the Germans in Austria...a freedom fighter by his definition"

please don't continue embarrassing youself,..... why do you think that Hitler defined himself as a freedom fighter? because freedom fighter has a positive value itself.
You don't put value on words, it's absurd. Words have their own values, from positive to negative passing through neutral, nobody puts value on words. How do you put a negative value on "wonderful"?


"Quoting from one of your radical sources is not proof...just more disinformation."

So the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), the US General McInerney, the retired Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, the former director of the CIA Robert Gates, Zbigniew Brzezinski president Carter’s National Security Advisor and the Citizens’ Commission on Benghazi of the US Congress are radical sources,..... if you say so

and there's no need at all of having been to the US to know what they are doing in the ME. All the people mentioned above have been not only living there but also working in the issue at the highest level and I would say that they know what happened quite better than you
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Dec 2015, 06:15
#27
08 Dec 2015, 06:15#27
Actually you gullible fool, Hitler never described himself as a freedom fighter....ever. Never in a million years. But he does meet the definition.  And I can assure you he would have had nothing but contempt for your idea of a freedom fighter, rather than thinking it a positive term.
Whoosh....hahaha.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
08 Dec 2015, 09:02
#28
08 Dec 2015, 09:02#28
 Ab ass youare really a hatter of note. Your hatred has blinded you.Mr. Been,
How many times do I have to explain that the jihad is an internal and personal question  for the inmense majority of muslims? 
their willing of dominating the world is exactly the same as the other main monotheistic religion, the christianity. Both religions have the fool idea that they are the only true religion and that through proselytism and preaching they have to extend the only true religion all over the world.

I have again posted the jihad versus. Only a complete lieing moron would say theyare not aimed at infidels. Your lieing only serves to make me wonder if  you are a muslim and possibly even a jihadist.Christ said broad so the way that leads to destruction.  Christianity will only rule the world when Christ returns to rule. We are in fact warned tha t at the end Anti Christ will rule the wolrd for 42 months and make war against the saints and overcome them. Of course we preach the GOOD NEWS OF THE GOSPEL  - ITS THE SALVATION OF GOD TO ALL WHO WILL BELIEVE. NO BETTER NEWS EXISTS. OUR GOD THOUGH DOES NOT FORCE ANYBODY TO COME TO HIM. HE SIMPLY INVITES AND CALLS. YOU ARE FREE TO SAY NO.THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN THE NEW TESTAMENT SAYING WE MUST FORCE PEOPLE TO BECOME CHRISTIAN. IT CANT BE DONE AS BEING BORN AGAIN IS A SUPERNATURAL ACT OF GOD AND UNLESS YOUARE BORN AGAIN YOU CANNOT ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD. ISLAM ON THE OTHER HAND USES THE SWORD TO CONVERT AND KILLS THOSE WHO LEAVE IT. THERE IS NO FREE WILL, FREE CONSCIENCE ETC.  OTHER FAITHS ARE WIPED OUT, MURDERED.BEHEADING IS THE METHOD USE. 
AB ASS YOUR BIG, BIG MISTAKE IS TO EQUATE ISLAM WITH CHRISTIANITY. THEY ARE WORLDS APART. YOUR INGNORANCE IS SHOCKING. READ THE NEW TESTAMENT AND ASK GOD TO REVEAL HIMSELF TO YOU IN YOUR GREAT DARKNESS.


BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
08 Dec 2015, 09:11
#29
08 Dec 2015, 09:11#29
 waped DUD you complete plank. Love demands we protect our peoples against islamicc jihad. Its that simple. Protect them against sharia law etc. Agaisnt being behaeded and subjugated fornot being muslims.
This oak is really so silly he should be locked up! bwhahahahahahaha 
Is anybody so consistently wromng as poor old warped DUD  th muslim apologist.Disgus ting really!
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