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The punch thrown by Triggs on Saturday

Started by clevermike24 REPLIES748 VIEWS· 22 Feb 2015, 18:31
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Feb 2015, 18:31
#1
22 Feb 2015, 18:31#1

Triggs is either incredibly stupid or [perhaps brave to punch Duane Vermeulen in the face.   If he had been off the field in doing that - he would have ended up in a hospital for six months.   As it is Vermeulen showed remarkable restraint by not retaliating.


This si going to be hard on Triggs.   He is unlikely to get away with anything less than a two to three month ban - since that kind of hooliganism does not belong on a rugby field.   As it is it seems the punch had a negative effect on the performance of Vermeulen -  his performance on Saturday was not on the same standard as we normally see from Vermeulen,   The Stormers performance was detrimentally affected by the punch - but the Blues loss of the game can largely be attributed to the fact that they had to play with 14 men for the rest of the game.   


By the way there is one element of Stormers play that I did not like and that was a tendency to defend their lead rather than to play positive rugby.   That makes life very difficult for any team and is going to cost them dearly in future.  


Two further observations about the Stormers on Saturday were that Carr was substandard when he came on and that the miniature players in their backline is not a positive.   Kolbe showed near to zero on Saturday and neither did De Jongh.   I would rather move De Jongh to the wing and play Van Wyk at 13 than to play a light weight dummy at 13.   The bigger and stronger backline players of the Blues caused serious problems for the Stormers and in the case of a team like the Chiefs they are going to suffer badly in the relevant regard.          

KM
Ka MateClub Pro246 posts
22 Feb 2015, 21:53
#2
22 Feb 2015, 21:53#2
Nah Mike, theres a very good reason why Dwayne didn't retaliate, he was shitting his pants and he didn't want to get bitch-slapped a second time.
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polyboyClub Pro601 posts
22 Feb 2015, 21:56
#3
22 Feb 2015, 21:56#3
Mike, SA forwards are no longer feared, respected but not feared.  Vermuelen's  reputation is because he's a class player not an enforcer. Trigg was an idiot for punching cause he cost his team any chance of winning.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,285 posts
22 Feb 2015, 23:18
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22 Feb 2015, 23:18#4
 
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,285 posts
22 Feb 2015, 23:23
#5
22 Feb 2015, 23:23#5
It is hard to see what is going on, no clear shot of the punch. I am pretty sure that if both teams forwards were to have a full on fight, it would be the Stormers who win. 
Maybe their should be a split in rugby union, to have another version that allows the violence from the old game. Things like tackling the playerin the air etc. The modern day game favours new zealand wee forwards that are fetchers for the backline. Each NZ backline player has  their own fetcher
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Feb 2015, 07:30
#6
23 Feb 2015, 07:30#6
 kai-mate
Any of the New Zealand forwards are physically weaker than their SA counterparts - so they normally avoid such things as far as possible.   Triggs was stupid - he tried to make a knock-out by using his fist and only caused Vermeulen to have a fat lip not even going back as a result of the fist usage.
If Triggs tried that outside a rugby field on Vermeulen - he would be in the hospital for six months with his face needing reconstruction.          
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ClaydogClub Pro691 posts
23 Feb 2015, 08:05
#7
23 Feb 2015, 08:05#7
 Mike its hard to retaliate when you are sitting on your arse with blood coming out your nose. Trust me you need to watch those long wirey kiwis. I don't blame Triggs at all, I don't like Vermuelens beard either.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
23 Feb 2015, 08:17
#8
23 Feb 2015, 08:17#8
Triggs did wrong, got caught & got a red card for his trouble. 
I do wonder if he was retaliating for something but it is a moot-point as it was not seen or on tape. They will investigate because the official will need to determine if further penalties are required.
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
23 Feb 2015, 09:13
#9
23 Feb 2015, 09:13#9
Trigg got a one game suspension....... a Highlander, dunno name, got five weeks for punching a Crusader .
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
23 Feb 2015, 10:55
#10
23 Feb 2015, 10:55#10

A one game suspension for two punches - sounds a bit light. Maybe there were extenuating circumstances?

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Feb 2015, 11:10
#11
23 Feb 2015, 11:10#11
 The report on the hearing reads as follows:-
"Blues lock Hayden Triggs has been suspended for a week for punching Stormers captain Duane Vermeulen in their Super Rugby match in Cape Town. Triggs was red-carded for the offence, which took place in the 24th minute. The SANZAR judicial officer says the incident is a low-range offence which stipulates a two-week suspension. But the ban has been reduced by a week due to Triggs' prompt admission of guilt, remorse for his actions and excellent disciplinary record in over 10 years of playing professional rugby. Hayden Triggs will miss this weekend's match against the Cheetahs in Bloemfontein."
A really light sentence - lucky for him to get away with it.     
MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
23 Feb 2015, 11:32
#12
23 Feb 2015, 11:32#12
i thought it was handled perfectly by joubert.

triggs was a dumb piece of poo, his presence or lack of afterwards really hurt the blues, it was felt even more so with luatua hurt.

All Black selectors since wayne smith have for many years have overlooked many a talented player cos of their lack of discipline, but in saying that triggs never had the talent for All Blacks.
MD
Monkey D LuffyPro6,277 posts
23 Feb 2015, 11:41
#13
23 Feb 2015, 11:41#13
@mikey,

"By the way there is one element of Stormers play that I did not like and that was a tendency to defend their lead rather than to play positive rugby.   That makes life very difficult for any team and is going to cost them dearly in future."
when have u ever seen the stormers or any saffa team play positive rugby???
u may see the odd game or two, but the reality is, ive never in my life seen any saffa team play good positive rugby.
the stormers and bulls are the leading contenders, followed closely by the Boks.
PO
polyboyClub Pro601 posts
23 Feb 2015, 14:01
#14
23 Feb 2015, 14:01#14
 Mike what scientific proof do you have that show any NZ forwards are physically weaker than their SA counterparts?  Seeing as NZ has produced the 2 best players in the world the last 2 years who just happen to be forwards seems to put your statement into disrepute. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Feb 2015, 14:06
#15
23 Feb 2015, 14:06#15
 Just look at what happen in Tight 5 play.  Their scrumming goes backwards and so does the mauls.   Poor advert for NZ rugby.  
This was meant as a joke in any event.  
By the way Retallick and Read are good - but not in physicality.  They are playing attractive rugby outside of the traffic and that makes them noticeable - in traffic they are not strong enough.
   
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 Feb 2015, 14:51
#16
23 Feb 2015, 14:51#16
 The off the ball stuff by the Blues was a clear tactic for the match. They almost disrupted the Stormers enough to gain advantage, but it backfired badly and they got a red. I'm not saying the tactic was to play dirty, but to be disruptive off the ball to get some mileage from retaliation by the Stormers. Kolbe was played late a few times and one was actually a shoulder charge. The Blues came to be fisical, but they took it a bit too far. For a moment i t almost looked like Triggs was going to have a go at the ref as well when he got shown the red.
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polyboyClub Pro601 posts
23 Feb 2015, 16:33
#17
23 Feb 2015, 16:33#17
Mike physicality is subjective to the observer.  The only opinion worth anything is from the actual players and I would bet you would be hard put to find a SA forward who would rate NZ forwards as less physical.  And Retallick and Read aren't just good...one is and one was the BEST player in the world and both because of skill and physicality in the loose and tight.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
23 Feb 2015, 21:20
#18
23 Feb 2015, 21:20#18
 JW says - A one game suspension for two punches - sounds a bit light. Maybe there were extenuating cir[removed]stances?
Extenuating circumstances for the very light sentence - its a kiwi punching a saffa. Surprised he got any sentence. Bwahahhahahaha
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 Feb 2015, 22:06
#19
23 Feb 2015, 22:06#19
 This unevenhanded bullshit has become norm in SANZAR.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
23 Feb 2015, 22:12
#20
23 Feb 2015, 22:12#20
Behave Beeno or I'll turn your electric power off again
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
23 Feb 2015, 22:18
#21
23 Feb 2015, 22:18#21
 Draad, once again its our judiciary handing out these light sentences .......... we've long had the philosophy of 'cowboys don't cry' . I wouldn't have been surprised if they decided that the sending off was sufficient punishment & the clown was available for the next game .
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
23 Feb 2015, 22:35
#22
23 Feb 2015, 22:35#22
Well said boys, way to put the facts on the table - don't let that get in the way of a good rant though Beeno
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
25 Feb 2015, 09:33
#23
25 Feb 2015, 09:33#23
 
I have only ever seen Bismarch back off from one man and that man was Duane Vermeulen.

I have no doubt Triggs would have been carried off on a stretcher had Duane decided to take it to the next level.

Hats off to him for showing such control.
KM
Ka MateClub Pro246 posts
25 Feb 2015, 13:15
#24
25 Feb 2015, 13:15#24
Theres a lot of typical Yarpie machismo on this thread but the truth is Dwayne Vermuelen ddint retaliate because he had already been belted once and he had no fight left in him. The poor chap looked like he was about to burst into tears. Typical Yarpie who likes to dish it out but cowers like a big girls blouse when its given back.

Hard luck to Triggsy who would have been provoked by Vermuelen and got a red card mainly because Vermuelen wasnt man enough to stay on his feet and he hit the deck like a Premiership soccer nancy-boy instead.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Feb 2015, 15:54
#25
25 Feb 2015, 15:54#25

Well "Triggsy" just about sums up the punch

 

 

Settled down to watch the Stormers game

 

I was enjoying a spot of lunch

 

Open rugby earned the Blues their fame

 

But Triggsy preferred  the punch

 

So he picked the strongest Stormers chap

 

and launched the dastardly blow

 

Duane said 'what was that slap' 

 

And Joubert needed to know

 

It couldn't be seen on the TMO screen

 

But the Linesman was on the spot

 

Triggsy it seemed had tried to be mean

 

And a red card was his lot.

 

 

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