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The real strategy followed by Nick Mallett

Started by Mozart18 REPLIES382 VIEWS· 31 May 2016, 21:18
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 May 2016, 21:18
#1
31 May 2016, 21:18#1
1 Crash  tackling by  Honibal and Pieter Muller.
2 Stampkar running by Honibal, Pieter Muller and Andre Venter.
3 Jannie de Beer drop kicks.

There was nothing more after the second  French test where the team was still playing with The Carel du Plessis playbook.

The whole 1998 campaign was Stampkar.
The whole WC was de Beer.

All this talk about the rugby we played under Mallett is nonsense, it was initially effective, but narrower than the rugby we played at almost any other time. And then there was the Bok backs can't compete clanger . One wishes he had followed a bit more of his oft repeated advice to others.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Jun 2016, 00:51
#2
01 Jun 2016, 00:51#2
 Mozart - Mallet was of essence also a forward coach - but had a re backline orientated approach than most of our coaches.  However, the rule changes of 2008 - which has had a direct and major impact on rugby styles was not applicable when Mallet coached the Springboks.  The other factor was that even the relevant changes were in place for 7 years Meyer did squat to implement any adjustments.     
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Jun 2016, 01:19
#3
01 Jun 2016, 01:19#3
Mallett was a forward coach, but we couldn't put any pressure on Oz in the semis in 99. He had more of a backline approach, but his big strategy for the WC was getting the ball to Jannie de Beer to drop kick.
I was at that semi and the crowd were totally anti our tactics...and for good reason the ball never went beyond the flyhalf.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Jun 2016, 02:29
#4
01 Jun 2016, 02:29#4

Mozart 

 

All of Mallet, White and Meyer dug their own coaching graves because of three reasons, namely –

*   HR problems – essentially White and Mallet, but less evident in Meyer;

*   selection debacles – more evident in Mallet and Meyer;

*   predictable and limited game plans – essentially White and Meyer.

I thought highly of White until his Sharks stanza – when he effectively got fired because of deficiencies in all three the above.   It is also clear that all three of the coaches mentioned  were effectively fired for the same reasons.  

I do not regard the refusal of White being offered a contract renewal in 2007 as him being fired, since he was undermined by the Bulls and Cheetahs and by Meyer – who desperately wanted the coaching role.    The undermining process  did not work out and De Villiers got the job.  Meyer might have done better than De Villiers if he was appointed in 2008.   By 2014 his favoured reputation players deteriorated so much that they were so defective in performances that  he had no chance of surviving the inevitable chop.         

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Jun 2016, 03:56
#5
01 Jun 2016, 03:56#5
The theory that HM had resources that he didn't call on is a popular one. Which suggests we will beat the ABs this year. I'm not convinced, but it would be nice. The proof is in the pudding.
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
01 Jun 2016, 07:36
#6
01 Jun 2016, 07:36#6
 This thread too has now been hi-jacked by the the grumpy old men.
Don't think I'll contribute anything here either.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Jun 2016, 23:20
#7
01 Jun 2016, 23:20#7
This is nonsense......Mallett advocated an expansive approach so much so that is ultimately lead to his downfall....he wanted to try take on the world with smaller quicker forwards and that is why we saw investment in the likes of Kempson at prop ahead of a young Os, Albert v/d Bergh at lock along with Selbourne Boome.
He moved away from our traditional strengths with a view to running sides off their feet with more athletic, smaller tightforwards......it failed 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Jun 2016, 04:15
#8
02 Jun 2016, 04:15#8

Mozart

Whether it was a theory or not - Meyer selected players on the basis of reputation and that eliminate players who were actually performing better than the reputation players he supported.   In essence that caused inexplicable losses like the one against Argentina and especially Japan. 

 Whether the performing players would have done better cannot be proved because they were not given a chance to play by Meyer.  To make a statement that it was a theory is consequently wrong - it is a fact that instead of selecting proven failures like Kirchner, Morne Steyn and Alberts resulted in players not being used or only given limited bench work in the WC campaign,  Meyer should rather have gone for better performing players.   He did not and that is where he ultimately failed badly.    

Even though many blame Matfield for Meyer's ultimate downfall - he was just another of the players who should never have been in the ill-prepared WC squad with a string of players coming back from injury with no or inadequate games before the WC campaign.    



MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Jun 2016, 04:30
#9
02 Jun 2016, 04:30#9
Tokkie all you are doing is giving me the mob view, nothing original. All this stuff is rampant on rugby boards and sites. Perhaps the mob will be proven  right this year, but I rather doubt it. 
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
02 Jun 2016, 06:35
#10
02 Jun 2016, 06:35#10
 If we followed the Mallet 99RWC in 11RWC we probably would have beaten them pesky Ozzies.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Jun 2016, 15:34
#11
02 Jun 2016, 15:34#11
 Drop kicks?
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Jun 2016, 15:47
#12
02 Jun 2016, 15:47#12
 Whether it is the mob view or not - it is a factual situation unfortunately. 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Jun 2016, 15:47
#13
02 Jun 2016, 15:47#13
 Whether it is the mob view or not - it is a factual situation unfortunately. 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Jun 2016, 15:51
#14
02 Jun 2016, 15:51#14
Nazism, communism, pol potism, the inquisition, the tulip bubble....all supported by the mob. Think for yourself.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Jun 2016, 18:48
#15
02 Jun 2016, 18:48#15
 We are discussing rugby issues here - not political junk.   Do you believe the average rugby supporter is junk?     
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
02 Jun 2016, 19:30
#16
02 Jun 2016, 19:30#16
 Moz, one drop would have won us that match. We had Morne and close to 70% possession and territory. We were fools not to try it more.
GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
02 Jun 2016, 21:13
#17
02 Jun 2016, 21:13#17
 If you want to win in the short term get Eddie Jones...but too late he's already gone to the Poms...he is the best coach in the world

If you want to build, appoint Johan Ackerman but we are so circu mspect (no vision until proven but that is a fallacy, he has already done that with the Lions but the sheep and politicans bleet and pu ssy foot and give him the next best job) well the man is still there and if Alistair makes a fark up then hopefully Ackers will get his chance.

Mallett is the next best option and I suspect he will still be waiting in the wings for this opportunity but I could well be wrong because who really who wants this kak job of whipping boy...it only attracts stalwards of integrity like Johan who is building his team...a very committed man dedicated to those he coaches and builds from scratch...a man that has incredible vision and discernment of potential...never waits for the horse to bolt before closing the door.

So in the longer term things turn in the direction of Mr Ackerman ...senior coach and a man , I think that is a stayer and won't be bought and is no political puppet...whether our government will tolerate a man with integrity has to be seen to be believed.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Jun 2016, 21:14
#18
02 Jun 2016, 21:14#18
I still believe the pass from Jean to Lambie was absolutely fine....hands going backwards. The drift was within bounds for such a long pass. But a drop or two would have helped.
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
02 Jun 2016, 21:18
#19
02 Jun 2016, 21:18#19
 Me too Moz, but a few drops would have negated the blunders by the officials.
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