The Rugby played under Erasmus

This from the idiot who kept quiet about the missed tackles of Morne and the \Morne debacle at the end of the first half - There are three issues here - 

*   The one who lies about what I wrote at kicking - especially relieving kicks and the need for accuracy making sure of maximum benefit and not allow for quick throw-ins; and

*    The slow or non-thinking of Morne about the incident.

*    The fact that it was the  last test starting appearance of Morne  under Meyer and the Wellington one was his second last such appearance.  He was piss-poor in both  

Mozart

Post that Morzoscope you wrote about the relevant match - it was so bad a distortion about what actually happened it was unbelievably funny.  

Those wonderful; skip passes of Steyn was in  fact bog ordinary passes any flyhalf would have made - so you had to get something to save Morne's disgusting performance and took that one out of the blue.

And the false excuses keep tumbling out.  The silence about the missed tackles are followed by another distortion about the first Messam try where  Morne had no hand in a missed tackle.   Fact is Aaron Smit was tackled and fell down at the feet of Alberts - who was the main culprit in that case.   Instead of trying to make a turnover - the clumsy bugger fell over his own feet and Messam came in and retrieve the ball and was pushed over the tryline by Retallick.

Just to point out a lie in 3 above.  Morne got the ball and made a relieving kick - the ball being out on the 22 - not outside the 22.   The Springboks succeeded in making a turnover and a maul followed with-in the 22.   It is seconds before the end of the first half and kicking out the ball would have been the end of the half and all Morne the dud had to do was to kick out the ball and that would have been the end of that half.   So the dud got the ball ten meters out and according to the liar saw a chance to attack - what a distortion by the liar.   This is typical from a lying distortion Mozart routinely comes up with all the time .         

Keep it up Mozart - the lies keep tumbling out BSter.   That morzoscope was the first time I realize never to trust any description you gave about what actually happened in matches - the lies were endless and from then on I learned never to trust anything you and your minions write on site.   If they find your lies OK - I would rather be in the minority and expose them and you all the time as the liars you are.

No they were in the lead - until the famous Barrett try - which included de Villiers going out of the defensive line and Morne missing a tackle on Barrett - disgusting.   That was similar to what you wanted De Allende to do in the WC semi two years later and when he did not - you blamed another try of Barrett on De Allende.   Another distortion and lie about De Allende missing the subsequent tackle.   Problem is the lie was exposed by a video clip you were stupid enough to post on the site.

It is a fact - you are a disgusting habitual liar that always have to protect your favorite losers as good and the players you are prejudiced against as bad.   You set a bad example on site and  since I expose your constant lies are always attacked by you - normally disgusting personal low life attacks.           

So you did not read the "drivel" ?  Unfortunately it is not drivel it is the real truth - but since you cannot distinguish between  truth and lies it is obviously drivel to you.     

Mike, why are you the only poster on this board who feels it necessary to write long essays to promote their own righteousness and denigrate others?

I've never met a truly honest person who felt it necessary to constantly point out just how honest and balanced they are. That sort of loud self-promotion and equally loud damning of the opposition is exclusively the domain of the charlatan rigging a defense for himself.

Pakie, there could be another explanation too....things are not always as they seem.

I guess so Draad.

Pakie

Keep it up - I did not defend myself at all - I made  a statement of fact and Mozart claimed I lied.   I then gave a description of what actually happened and Mozart came with a totally farcical description of what he said happened.   

This is exactly why members like Dave and Rooinek left the site.  Mozart lies and makes personal attacks constantly and  expect others to keep quiet.   He is a dismal BSter and I have learnt something over the years - he is despicable.

A lot of good and bad spouts in the spagetti sauce...none of them very usefull...emotions and mind sets prevail...it appears that Erasmus is well learned on rugby strategy' and psych...is intelligent and is steps ahead of the dross that floated past in the past...lol.

Beeno thinks he is a guru but my view he is a simple honest man who played simple and hard rugby and is a producer more than a talker...actual players respect such players despite hype like Beeno and Co and will do their job...Springbok coaching never required space research or brain surgery science...it only needed emotional strength and belief from skills well learnt from lesser stages of the game...soccer teaches us that skills only work when the belief is there and you get the basics right not once but always through the game...play your best to your highest ability, forget the different score levels and results automatically come.

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I then gave a description of what actually happened and Mozart came with a totally farcical description of what he said happened.  

No, you both described pretty much the same thing, you just drew different conclusions from it. Let's examine:

Mozart: Then the try Morne is blamed for.....he gets the ball behind his posts under pressure and puts it out, outside the 22 with a good kick under pressure.

Mike: Morne got the ball and made a relieving kick - the ball being out on the 22 - not outside the 22.

Same thing. The only data point in contention is the position of the lineout. The lineout took place about two or three meters outside the 22, not on the 22. Mozart correct, you wrong.

Mozart: The Boks get turnover ball from the lineout and Morne recognizes the attacking chance.

Mike: So the dud got the ball ten meters out and according to the liar saw a chance to attack - what a distortion by the liar.

There's no lie or distortion here (except perhaps for your claim of ten meters out, in actual fact probably at least 15m out), just a difference of opinion. Morne had 4 players outside him vs 3 defenders. There was an opportunity and very likely the players outside were calling for the ball. The centers made the mistake - first Jean ran across field instead of straightening the line, cutting down the space and forcing the inside switch to JJ, who ran away from his support and got turned over.

Passing the ball could have produced something positive. They had numbers. It was true to the spirit in which the game was being played. In this case it backfired largely due to the mercurial Read being the first tackler. Those are the breaks.

Pakie lies in abundance - there was no space.   The line out was on the same side the pass eventually took place to Engelbrecht  - where did the defenders vanished to BSter.   What about the fact that a relieving kick would have ended the half.

The funny part is that Morne who would not recognize an attacking opportunity if it hit him in the face - suddenly saw one in his own 22.   Must be a career  first under Meyer by the worst flyhalf the Springboks had in 20 years.

Look I know you are a Mozart idiot that would support him all the time - but this is stretching it.   Why don't you produce pics of the incident - but make sure that the angles are not slanted as it was in your own last effort so is to support false s tatements.   

the ball being out on the 22 - not outside the 22.

Here is the lineout 3 meters outside the 22. This is your lie #1. Note that the lineout is on the far side of the field, for reference later.

So the dud got the ball ten meters out

Here the "dud" receives the pass. At least 15m out from the tryline, possibly more. This is your lie #2.

Pakie lies in abundance - there was no space.

From Morne to the touchline there was half a field width of space (your lie #3), plus 4 men against 3, just as I said. Jean now makes the mistake of drifting across (red arrow), cutting down the space, instead of attacking the space between the two defenders to effect a 2 man overlap (white arrow). Exactly as I described.

The line out was on the same side the pass eventually took place to Engelbrecht (your lie #4)

Here is the pass to Engelbrecht. Clearly play has moved to the near side of the field, while the lineout was on the far side.

There you go Mike. You have been debunked again, and caught in one, two, three, four lies about verifiable data points on this issue- things you would not have gotten wrong if your priority was honest reporting instead of the slandering of Morne Steyn.

but make sure that the angles are not slanted as it was in your own last effort so is to support false statements.  

Fuck off and don't even address me again on this forum.

Mozart

I have seen classic BS written by some members on site - but wh at you and Pakie dished up here takes the cake.

Throughout his career Morne Steyn was a kicking dummy - he never knew when to kick and when not to.   Suddenly he had a once in a career inspiration to launch an attack within the Springbok red zone - no wonder it was a foul up.   But Morne is beyond blame so Pakie blamed De Villiers for the foul-up happening and claim that the outside players were screaming for the ball.

Then we have the lack of honesty here.   It was seconds before the end of the first half and kicking the ball into touch would have been the way to go because it would have ended the half - not a word from you on that.

Now suddenly the Springboks wanted to score more tries than the AB's - but that did not enter Morne's mind since he missed three tackles on AB players who scored tries as a result.   Total silence on that from you too,

If any other SA flyhalf did what Morne did on that day you would have screamed  murder and wrote pages on the player being poor - but because Morne is your kicking dummy favourite all kinds of imaginary excuses are found.         

Pakue thanks for the pics and your BS comment.  There was NO overlap as you claimed dim BSter - you did not count the players whose head just showed  in the one pic,   That pick when Morn received the ball is false - he got the ball earlier than the pick showed.

And then - the player who screamed for the ball drifted out and caused the problem.   That is amazing really.    And then the silence as to the potential ending of the first half and the fact that you have dreamt up a string of excuses for the worst flyhalf we had since 2000.   

What about the simple truth hear - kick the ball out of play and the first half would have ended.   I have seen a list of BS deductions from the pics you posted and this one beats the whole lot.   Morne was a dim kicking dummy flyhalf, Meyer was a dud backline coach, but both you and Mozart are not only dishonest but totally ignorant about rugby as a game.        

That pick when Morn received the ball is false - he got the ball earlier than the pick showed.

LOL. The footage is on Youtube for anyone to verify. Keep digging Mike, you're making a thorough arse of yourself. But I am immensely enjoying this cat on a hot tin roof act you're pulling now. Two attempted misdirection essays in 12 minutes. The air is thick with desperation. Come on, give us another one.

you did not count the players whose head just showed  in the one pic,

LOL! That's the sound guy with the huge microphone on the touchline, not a player, you twit.

No Pakie

You know that Morne should have kicked the ball out of play - but he cannot be blamed for the BS flyhalf he always were so a false pretense is dreamt up.  Both you and Mozart should be ashamed of yourself in trying to defend the indefensible.  But then it is really useless to discuss things with two prejudiced fools like the two of you.       

Again, if you watched the footage you will know full well this is not a player. But instead you just continue making stuff up .

The pic clarified the issue - but I still count three defenders and three Springboks.   Where was the fourth Springbok attacker?  Don't mention Morne as one - he has a bad reputation of never attacking the gain line in games.   The potential defenders constantly ignored him totally.

Just do yourself a favour and read what Hansen said about your dear Morne before the Johannesburg test in 2014.   He aid they know what will happen with Morne at flyhalf - but they don't know what will happen with Pollard at flyhalf.   That really was summing up a failed flyhalf totally.   Morne was a dud at flyhalf and has been one ever since 2011.

Your excuses for that dud is really unbelievable BS    

Where was the fourth Springbok attacker?

Holy shit, you're thick as a plank. Are you serious?? Mike, how old are you? How much spoonfeeding do you need? What will it take for you to FUCKING BE HONEST for one second?

WATCH THE VIDEO AND COUNT!

LOOK AT THIS SCREENSHOT SHOWING ALL FOUR ATTACKERS, ALREADY POSTED BEFORE. I cropped the sound guy image to show the sound guy, not the players.

Mozart

For a change be honest - Morne should have kicked that ball out of touch ending the first half.  The ignoring of that fact screams to high heaven,    Stop defending the indefensible - you are showing  that you are a prejudiced fool.  

Hot tin roof, hot tin roof. Dance Mikey, dance.

Shame, kom ons help tog maar die oom. Maak mondjie groot oop Mike, hier kom die vliegtuig. Tel die outjies - 1, 2, 3 en wat kom na 3? V-v-v-vieeer! Daarsy pa se groot seun.

Right, I'm done with this 5 year old blast from the past nonsense. It's 2018 and there's some fresh test matches today.

So  a new pic is produced  to show an attacking opportunity in the Springboks red zone.  Chances of success zero in that case.  Chances of a foul up 100%.   And the foul-up ha ppened,   Kick for touch and there is no foul-up and it is the end of the first half.   However, keep bluffing yourself that Morne did not make a total foul-up in this case. 

Read about what Hansen said about Morne at flyhalf - maybe you may in the end realize that Morne was a dud as a flyhalf that caused the Springboks losing games often enough and the game under discussion was one of those.   The missed tackles are ignored - the time of the incident under discussion is ignored and that are just two issues that showed you and your fellow idiot up for what you are - mildly expressed as prejudiced fools..   

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