SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Mar 2024, 18:47#4
I had forgotten how physically impressive DA was against Ireland
He knocked the shit out of Ringrose
The man is a beast
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Mar 2024, 20:22#6
The most physical inside centre in the game with an amazing skill set but plays to his strengths which is his freakish strength as demonstrated on a few occasions in the Irish game.
He makes metres in traffic - that is a huge asset in the modern game
The game has changed so much - defences are scientifically applied, there is virtually no space for an inside centre to breathe let alone attack space
With that comes a new type of player at 12 - big physical guys - de Allende, Esterhuizen, JVR, Tuilagi, Ollie Lawrence, Aki, Tuipoloutu, Danty, Kerevi etc
Of these, de Allende is the only one who has consistently held his place in a test side for as long as he has - why is that, because he is the best at his trade
Why do coaches change their centres so often - because it’s so hard to make an impression as a centre in modern test rugby
If you don’t get DA you don’t get the modern game, you are caught up in what centres did a decade ago
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Mar 2024, 11:08#8
No he does not die with the ball he sets up the next phase that’s his job. He does not offload as offloading negates the next phase. Esterhuizen did not offload when playing for the Boks
None of the likes of Tuilagi, Kerevi or Aki are renowned for offloading, especially within an English or Irish game plan - Oz would be different
Bullshit did Aki make a better contribution in that test - relying on stats is niave. Aki gained that many metres in literally one break - that’s all he did that test. As Beeno’s highlights show - DA was massively destructive in that test
DA was good in all his WC outings except the final - created and scored that good try against France was it?
DA is a class act - the most consistently selected 12 in the game in the best side in the game coached by the best coach in the game. Rassie knows what he is doing when it comes to DA and I fully get it
09 Mar 2024, 11:19#10
Offloading is exactly what he should do more….setting up the next phase his way, is forming a Ruck….To much Rucks Slows the game down and takes away the Flow of the game + plus it spoils the element of surprise…our Gameplan is to predictable and relies to much on pure Physicality “ Stampkar “ which allowed all the other top Teams to be to close for Comfort….Ergo Brown,s appointment to pep things up…. especially with John Deere in the 12 channel : )
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Mar 2024, 16:20#14
So here’s a question for you Draad. Do you agree with Dave that Dud had no culpability for Barrett’s try that took us out of WC 2015. Or do you agree with me that he was hopelessly out of position and slow to react. I read your comment that he was involved in the prior ruck, but there was a phase in between….proven by his position actually outside Nonu….what he didn’t do was come up with the defensive line.
Time to get off the draad.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Mar 2024, 18:14#18
Perhaps JP could have juggled the options better, but he was effectively in a 2 on 1 with Dud struggling to catch up. I’d reverse that and say Dud was mostly culpable but JP could have positioned himself better.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
10 Mar 2024, 23:47#21
JP is more culpable than DA evidenced by DA tackling Nonu - there was no need for JP to come in - DA had it covered
Most culpable was Schalk, followed by JP then DA
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
11 Mar 2024, 13:02#23
No if’s and but’s you don’t need to slow down to make a pass. DA tackled his man, JP had Barrett covered but he fucked up by stepping in leaving Barret open to score the try.
It’s plain to see. One man makes his tackle the other leaves his man free to run in and score
Directing more culpability at the guy who makes his tackle over the one that does not is a joke
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
11 Mar 2024, 15:06#25
25m give me a break. DA did what any defender would do when an attacker does an in out, you check your alignment for a second.
DA checked then hit his man, JP fucked up by not trusting DA to get his man
JP fucked up, Schalk fucked up, DA never fucked up
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
11 Mar 2024, 17:20#27
Nope that is not what happened it’s there to see for everyone’s eyes - there was no 25m involved just an in out by an attacker, a defender who checks at the point of the in out then gets his man.
The real issue is JP cutting in leaving Barrett free and open to score the try. That my friend is the only reason that try was scored. Had JP held his line - no try was scored - that is a fact
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
11 Mar 2024, 20:49#29
He never ran 25m but who gives a shit about how many metres he ran - he got tackled and the player he past to scored a try because the defender marking him cut inside leaving him free to score
What part of this do you not comprehend? Say Nonu ran 50m it makes stuff all difference if he is tackled 6m from the line.
Let’s take JP and Barrett out of the equation. Nonu runs x metres and gets tackled 6m from the line. No try - case closed
So how was the try scored? Add Barrett and JP to the equation with JP marking Barrett - Barrett scores - who is at fault?
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
11 Mar 2024, 21:19#30
I’ve just checked the footage again at best Nonu runs about 10m in total
PLPlum
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12 Mar 2024, 14:57#33
Moola...
Since you're here. Tell us your thoughts on DDA.
Most here have all but given up on him ever living up to 5% of the hype.
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
12 Mar 2024, 17:37#34
Moola you dumb fuck if you think JP was not to blame for not trusting DA to make his tackle which he did.
As for the WC final let me explain things to you as you are obviously too fucking stupid to understand the obvious
So NZ lose a forward thanks to a red card. Under normal circumstances the Boks given the recognised strength of their pack should have driven home that numerical advantage in the set pieces.
So chances are that the Boks would have been awarded far more scrum penalties than they did and it’s obvious our line outs would have operated a whole lot better. Now normal circumstances entails having a specialist hooker in the side - something we did not have.
If you can’t see the impact this had then you are too fucking stupid to waste any more of my time on
SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
12 Mar 2024, 17:39#35
Moz there is no fucking ways Nonu ran anything close to 25m - at the most he might have covered half of that and that’s a fact
I don’t need any calculations to determine that - the naked eye tells it all
Your tale is a load of bollocks