The Willie Leroux Fiasco vs All Blacks

I watched the game for the 2nd time, and Leroux was even more of a disaster than I thought. 
He was so bad that playing with 14 players may have been better. 
He made more mistakes than the rest of the team put together in the 1st half. 

His blunders led to two tries conceded against the run of play, and he made numerous other errors that allowed the All Blacks to get ascendency. 

He certainly needs a rest, as with any players that play too many games without injury, eventually losing form. 
Kolbe, Frans Steyn or Goosen could cover fullback in his absence- assuming he regains form. 

At his best, he gets many backline attack movements going. 

Goosen could be a solid bench player as he can cover flyhalf, fullback, outside center, and even wing. And he has a good boot to cover pole kicking- and provide another kicker on the field. He has a big boot, so he can play a similar territory game like France Sten.

Goosen is a fullback, and fullback only but not at test level. Bosch is the next best 15.

Willie has suffered heavily under the Josè regime. His production has fallen off a cliff under Josè. One of those players who looked like he had a foot on the plane home. 

SB

There were signs already in 2019 in the WC that Le Roux was a problem in some aspects of the game  - especially when he joined the backline there were  signs of ball handling mistakes..    He is more pace-deficient now.     

There are a few players now that needs to be looked at again when it comes to team selection and those include Le Roux and  Mostert .           

SB

There were signs already in 2019 in the WC that Le Roux was a problem in some aspects of the game  - especially when he joined the backline there were  signs of ball handling mistakes..    He is more pace-deficient now.     

There are a few players now that needs to be looked at again when it comes to team selection and those include Le Roux and  Mostert .           

Maaik, Willie was playing with a shoulder injury during the world cup.

D raad

What was the excuse yesterday? 

I don't know Maaik...he was very poor yesterday...even Fransie was better...

I had misgivings about Willie long before the WC and said as much on here, there was one other poster who felt exactly the same but we won't mention any names. Willie's last good game was in the WC final, he was woeful uptil then and he's been ordinary ever since. The Le Roux we all knew and enjoyed is no more and it took a veteran player to show what the Boks lack at fullback.

Willie isn't poor, the Bok's woefully inadequate atttacking structures are not utilising his strengths. Think about it, no Bok is a top 15 producer. They currently sit at the bottom of every attacking statistical category. Is this exclusively a Willie phenomenon? No. The coaching team needs to go. Bosch is the next best 15, then Gelant - our only test caliber options - but neither can produce the playmaking ability of Willie. Be careful what you wish for. 

Frans showed how to kick and dominate from the back. Did offer much on attack but was huge on defence. 

Willie seem to have lost a yard of pace and struggles to to get around his opposite number and to get the back line away like he use to. 

I would focus on Fassi and get the kid some game time. Maybe leave Frans on the bench for the last 3 games. 

NO Willemse

Frans is one of the most talented players we've ever produced, he'll make decisive contributions pretty much anywhere you play him, but he is still primarily a centre. Our most natural looking attack was with him at 12 this year. Still, Esterhuizen should be there. 

Willie, unfortunately, has the defence in his face as soon as he gets the ball. The attack can't get around the edge of the defence. It's too slow and clunky. Willie has enough pace. We've tried others in that attacking position, and nobody can bust the defence on the outside. It's a structural problem. José is obsessed with the two pod structure with a man connecting the two. 

I was always a Fransie at 15 fan.   Statistically his best position for the Boks.

Actually, statistically, 15 is Fran's fourth best position. 12, 10, 13, 15. 

Goosen has no future at 10 at test level. It was typical blindness that saw him emerge there. It will never work. Fortunately Josè isn't Dummkopf enough to do it. 

Nyet. 

It's certainly a option to be explored further, but I definitely won't totally discard DdA just yet though , but we need to build depth in the midfield.

Damian is the most fundamentally flawed 12 I have ever seen. Abysmal is putting it mildly. But, Saffers are so thick that Dumbian will probably get close to 100 caps and be labelled a legend. It's terrible when society rewards those most undeserving. A real sickness in SA. Another trend is to loath real excellence. You know you are heading in the right direction when you make the oakies feathers ruffle.