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The Worst Bok Performance in years

Started by sharkbok24 REPLIES311 VIEWS· 29 Nov 2014, 18:31
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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,293 posts
29 Nov 2014, 18:31
#1
29 Nov 2014, 18:31#1

The rucks were terrible and if they cant be more effective, the Boks may as well not even show up for next years World Cup. 

Did South Africa even make it through 3 phases, if so it was slow ball.....


Mohoje offers nothing at the breakdown. No counter ruck, ball protection or turnovers, pathetic. Schalk or/and Flouw were missed. Bismaark is no longer a feature at the rucks and starting Strauss is a better option. 


The last move of the game summed it up. Overlap on the outside and a forward pass...


Terribale tour. Lost to Ireland and Wales, pushed close by Italy and England. These teams know how to pressure the Boks breakdown, and ours scrummies are bad behind this ball





BI
biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
29 Nov 2014, 18:32
#2
29 Nov 2014, 18:32#2

This whole year was poor, Meyer is losing the plot.

WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
29 Nov 2014, 18:41
#3
29 Nov 2014, 18:41#3
 Very ,very annoyed with 2 of the SANZAR teams , gahh I hate it when the NH get to brag ...thats our right ! 
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,293 posts
29 Nov 2014, 18:44
#4
29 Nov 2014, 18:44#4
agreed BB, Wales allmost beat the Boks at the start of the year.  At first I just thought it was a slow start to the year and things were getting like last year. This tour confirmed the Boks have gone backwards..
SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
29 Nov 2014, 18:45
#5
29 Nov 2014, 18:45#5
I've had enough of Hougaard.
BI
biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
29 Nov 2014, 18:52
#6
29 Nov 2014, 18:52#6

Meyer blames lack of experience in the last 20.


Get ready for more geriatrics  

PA
PakieCaptain17,321 posts
29 Nov 2014, 18:52
#7
29 Nov 2014, 18:52#7
Did we even create one credible scoring opportunity? I can't remember any. The Lambie hype remains just that - hype. In Reinach we did the impossible by finding a scrumhalf with even slower service than Pienaar. Count the steps he takes first one way, then backwards when he throws the pass that Lambie drops. Headless chicken. Slow, headless chicken. And then Hougaard comes on...

Vermeulen can hold his head high, as always, while Etzebeth had a fine game too.
PA
PakieCaptain17,321 posts
29 Nov 2014, 18:55
#8
29 Nov 2014, 18:55#8
Well Meyer can thank Wales for their ineptitude in the last 20, otherwise they would and should have been 20 points clear of the Boks by the final whistle.
BO
BokBFClub Pro421 posts
29 Nov 2014, 18:57
#9
29 Nov 2014, 18:57#9
Kannie and  hogat the two Boks who wear ther IQ on their backs. We need FDP back to control things going forward or backward. Our bright young stars were a total fail today. 
AG
AgPleezDeddyClub Pro900 posts
29 Nov 2014, 18:59
#10
29 Nov 2014, 18:59#10
 We NEED Fourie Du Preez back.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
29 Nov 2014, 19:12
#11
29 Nov 2014, 19:12#11
 Cornal Hendricks collided with Halfpenny while competing for a high ball. Hendricks looked to be going for the ball rather than the man, but referee John Lacey deemed Hendricks had taken Halfpenny out.

This decision was only made after the partisan crowd clamoured for the Bok winger’s dismissal.Lacey bowed  to the pressure and brandished a yellow card. It was a poor decision that should have cost South Africa dearly"


Wonder what else contrived for Wales. How bad was the ref?

Look oaks Meyer has been on the wrong track for some time now and, given that, a loss is a good result. Nothing focuses the mind more than loosing. Meyer must resist all ideas that his geriatrics can win the next RWC. His only hope is to build for the future. he has lost a lot of time but no other path is open to him. 

Looking forward to watching the game and seeing who can be retained and who is not up to it.

The only sympathy I have with Meyer is the fact he is having quotas enforced on him. But that is not the only problem for sure. 


 


BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
29 Nov 2014, 19:39
#12
29 Nov 2014, 19:39#12
 ...Bean Brain, not the first time on tour Meyer's been schooled by the Kiwi coaches... mate anytime you need a rugby education , just ask the Kiwis... clever move by JDV as well disappearing when the going got tough..but  isn't the captain supposed to go down with the sinking ship...?
AJ
Arthur JohnPro1,748 posts
29 Nov 2014, 20:19
#13
29 Nov 2014, 20:19#13
 Baie dankie Mnr Meyer vir die geld.
CO
COSHRookie29 posts
29 Nov 2014, 20:37
#14
29 Nov 2014, 20:37#14
So, what to make of this game?  Probably the most boring game of the whole Autumn Series in the NH.  Appreciate the fact that SA were without a number of 1st team players, but having said that, this was the least enterprising Bokke side I have seen in many years.  Sad to say that no side looked like scoring a try through flair, where is the game heading based on todays's performance.? Wales deserved the victory IMO, SA not only looked as if they didn't have a plan B to revert to, but more importantly, they didn't even seem to have a plan A to start with. There comes a time when an international coach has to throw caution to the wind and let the players actually express themselves, sadly, neither coach allowed this today !  A very disappointing international played between 2 very average teams.  They both need to seriously improve over the next 6 months, and, if coached correctly (? ) may move forward based on today's performance.I would imagine both camps will be unhappy with their tactics, but Warren Gatland will be the happier of the 2 and declared a national hero by those too blind to see !
BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
29 Nov 2014, 20:45
#15
29 Nov 2014, 20:45#15

 ...Boks playing possum ?


BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
29 Nov 2014, 21:56
#16
29 Nov 2014, 21:56#16
 Welcome back Cosh.
Itwas a Mallet said an error strew match. Mallet was of the opinion Wales are not really a world Cup threat. Probably right based on this performance. Boks shot themsleves in trhe foot but frankly it has to be a good result as Meyer needs to rethink.No more time to be wasted on geriatrics.  Jean will probably be out for a while and we could see Jan and Allende operating as the center combo. Matfiled has to go and out goes oupa.I cant see why anybody can complain about Reinach.  Meyer must abandon any idea that Lambie is better than Pollard Its an absurd conclusion to draw. And yes I am aware Pollard tried for too much when kicking for touch near the end. He is world class and must be the preferred flyhalf.I am not worried about our props or locks if all are fit and correctly selected. The quality is there. Meyer needs another loosie to complement Vermuelen (who should have been man of the match and IRB player of the year) and Coetzee.I would love to have seen what Kriel could do with that speed of his. Carr was clearly better than oupa. 
The yellow card probably cost us the match and was a poor decision. It apears there can be no aerial contest for the ball according these NH oaks.
Comment in bad taste brycy . Jean has dislocated his knee and could be out for 6 months. 



GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
29 Nov 2014, 22:27
#17
29 Nov 2014, 22:27#17
We really suck...big time...delusions and fantasies... we live in the past...typical Saffa mentallity...quite honestly I'm no longer proud of my country of inheritance...we are lovely people but very stupid...we suffer in rugby and cricket because the way we think..we really get caught up with propaganda...our politics smells so badly, we are lost souls...sport in rugby and cricket is the common man's toothlessness to our answer in a world that in  we cannot compete.Dream on...I'm sure we won't win this obstacle...neither bigger issues...enough said !





BO
BokBFClub Pro421 posts
29 Nov 2014, 23:01
#18
29 Nov 2014, 23:01#18
 Pollard is our future but let's call a spade a spade, he was poor today. That miss to touch ffor a line out drive probably cost us the game. Problem is he has history with missing touch having missed at least 4 in the home OZ AB games. Easy to overlook when you win . But just ask Morne what happens when you loose. I have to agree the card was pathetic   .
MO
moolaaPro2,380 posts
29 Nov 2014, 23:08
#19
29 Nov 2014, 23:08#19
 Hasbeeno, still think Willie is the best fullback running around and that Pollard's "world class"?Bwahaha etc etc.......
BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
29 Nov 2014, 23:17
#20
29 Nov 2014, 23:17#20
 ...Bean Brain yr right, was a great result...off to the TAB to cash in on that one thanks very much mate...still not too late to back Samoa to take out Pool B in next years RWC...paying NZ $10 so easy money going by todays performance and with Nanai Williams, Leiua etc coming in to the team it's a steal...
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
30 Nov 2014, 02:29
#21
30 Nov 2014, 02:29#21

 "I've had enough of Hougaard"



My sentiment as well.



But here's the pathetic go....let's wait and see  Saffex  tell us his a class act!


Meyer...well he's just blind.

DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
30 Nov 2014, 02:33
#22
30 Nov 2014, 02:33#22
Correct me if I'm wrong but in the last 20 minutes  we  had a team awash with young hopefuls, the type of team many on this forum have been itching for....Matfield being the only "geriatric"....so what happened guys?
SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
30 Nov 2014, 02:43
#23
30 Nov 2014, 02:43#23
That last 20 minutes was filled to the brim with scrums and Wales timewasting.
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
30 Nov 2014, 09:43
#24
30 Nov 2014, 09:43#24
 But beandip you were fine with the crowd swaying the ref when its the ABS eh ? Hoist on your petard . ret.ard .Brycy that wee possums a crack up ! Looks too energetic for a bok though...
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
30 Nov 2014, 09:54
#25
30 Nov 2014, 09:54#25
Denny: you are right, there were a lot of hopefuls for the Boks in this game. That is the main reason for the loss IMO.  The coach wanted to test his depth & it clearly showed this is not too good. 
Wales was clearly slowing the game down, like the Poms did. I hope the refs keep this under control.
Sorry to see De Villiers injured.
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