Time for a South African Maori’s team?

It will never happen of course…but it would be fun to see where a ‘non white’ South African rugby team would rank now. Of course this combines all kinds of strange bedfellows…Zulus and Xhosas for example. It’s all too Apartheid to ever work, calling out terms best left in the past. 

The Maoris are the affirmation of a people, not the exclusion of a group…so it has a much better vibe.

But just selecting a team like this is a measure of how far South Africa has progressed in producing world class rugby players from population groups that had a low rugby participation. If South Africa can do this, why not others eg the USA.

What would the team look like ….perhaps something like this:

Fassi

Kolbe

Am

Willemse

Mapimpi

Jantjies

Jantjies

Nyakane

Bongi

Niche 

Moerat

Orie

Kolisi

Carr

Augustus

Perhaps Dave could improve on the selections, I don’t pretend to know all of the options. But even this team could beat Scotland….and we didn’t even have to take the knee.

Nah, Scotty will take them, as would Japan, but if they can play together long enough to gel into a team, they might kick arse.

They could well kick arse, Scotty is First League today...look what they did to Tonga yesterday. We all know Tonga is not a top side today but they are sometimes not easy to dispose of no matter who plays them. ..certainly not by the margins obtained  yesterday....what they lack in depth is vastly opposed to that what they have in spirit.

Any team that can be physically disruptive can be hard to beat because they don;'t allow you to control your possession. Lower tier teams with good backs but weak packs struggle more than the opposite. Tongans are more physical and more aggressive than Samoans and Fijians. It's like entering a tribal war more than contesting a game of rugby. 

As per the Indigeneous Team, it's an interesting idea. I think we may have touched on this before. I think you'll struggle mightily and lock, and then in the loose trio. They definitely aren't top quality areas of non-white production. The rest are competitive enough. I'd definitely demote Willemse though. I'd rather stick Kolisi at 12. That's more where he belongs, if not on the wing. 

Who could forget Notshe, all-time greatest Bok!  

Another overhyped body in a jersey. Your elder, Omlett (do get your own line, I know you lack between the ears but surely you can fathom some level of originality), declared him all time greatest Bok and a certainty for a long test career. 

Notshe was massively over hyped….you talk about a player who wasn’t physical enough for test rugby! He makes Kwagga look like Alberts!

You speak for all humans Unteromlett? This is your classic "I'm beaten down by reality" response. 

Not only overhyped Moz, but actually quite lazy and sloppy when he played for the Boks. 

So hard to judge on the basis of Currie Cup rugby…and you’re right I never watched much CC this year, but it’s hard to imagine he has changed that much.

Highly doubtful that he is tougher than Kwagga. You're doing the same thing with Kwagga that you did with Roos and Wiese: Disregarding the level of competition to contextualize production (you didn't actually state what Roos' production was, you just vomited out some preschool adjectives). 

Wiese has, so far this season, surpassed everything Limp and PTSD have ever done at test level. 98% rock on defense and the only Bok to register for metres ball-in-hand. The most effective Bok this season. Wiese has shown something that PTSD, Limp and Dumbian haven't shown in nearly a decade: The capacity to learn. He has grown, improved, and cut mistakes out. It's very unusual. Wiese was thrown in the deep end and delivered. He is a better Bok than your big picks and always will be. Ende.

Wiese was very good against the Lions. His penalty count is lower than Steph and Lood. He had three penalties in one Lions test for handling issues under the high ball, but he did a lot of other good things and improved in all areas. His stout defence and gainline dominance where huge against an opponent who bossed us on the gainline. In fact, the Boks have been bossed all year on the gainline. Kwagga and Wiese were guaranteed front-foot ball generators. The most stupid Boks are Dumbian, Kriel, Steph, Limp, Nkosi, Kolisi. Wiese has outdone all of them. He is clearly smarter as he shows he can learn and adapt, even improve. PTSD and Dumbian have been making the same mistakes every game their entire careers. No growth, no improvement. 

Wiese carried the Boks against the Lions and played well in all his other tests. What Wiese did on defence against Australia and New Zealand vastly surpasses that of PTSD and Limp. Wiese had a rush of blood against Australia, which has somehow been interpreted as a trend, it isn't. His penalty count isn't very high overall. A 98% tackle percentage and was leading for metres per carry until Thor was promoted. When have we ever been able to say this about PTSD or Limp. And as for lineout steals? Eben doubled Limp. Eben has very good anticipation and explosive athleticism. 

Wiese, better production than Limp and whatever PTSD has produced against top quality opposition. 

What a thread. Priceless.

A SA Maori team. What about a SA team.

Self gratification is high as usual, the best of the best.

Taking pride in what is by all standards a confession of failure, SA rugby can barely field a rugby team from the local populations. Yet this should be considered an achievement.

And painfully hiding behind a lack of explanations.

The North has managed to train more players from a much smaller reservoir. SA has by far the largest pool of people to tap from in order to produce this kind of players.

Again, as stated already, one solution for SA rugby would be to scout the northern hemispher in order to drag already trained players to play for SA.

They would be better trained and would fit in as they wont speak local languages.

Even Wales has called a guy born in Congo for the November tour. It has to be believed that Wales has such a pool of players to tap in.

What a disgrace, the cult of nothingness. Instead of keeping a low profile, all these guys are urged to pretend what they are not.

Oh dear!

Shame poor old Peeper doesn’t know that the correct way to write “Maori” is actually “Mãori”. I made a careless error on the possessive, but how much more stupid to correct me and then show your own ignorance.

And while I’m about it, that sentence…..40 words without a comma. Clumsy! You need a comma after “Maori” and after “s”.  It’s a bit irritating, I have tried to help you with this before and you seem to be making no progress.

Wehe, the drunken old fool admitting he didn't just mess up the plural and the possessive but he left off the "ã". All in a single word!

Next time you have a "kanipshin" (sic) about someone else's spellig or grammar, remember this thread, Moffie . . . the thread when you got an explosion of egg all over your stupid, pompous and semi-literate face.

LMAO!

Actually if you look carefully you will see I never used the word ‘Maori’ you did, even though you rudely put it in quotes. Ergo you never knew about the correct spelling until I pointed it out to you.

And no thoughts on your punctuation? The sentence without end.

Then there’s this:….‘about someone else's spellig’….LOL spellig (sic) is that some sort of Harry Potter thing?

It must be frustrating, you thought you had me and then you didn’t. The same old outcome. Stay down you plank, you’re over matched.

Poor Omlett verbally soils himself again. Back to the scribbling board...