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Time to create squad depth

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
05 Oct 2021, 14:44
#1
05 Oct 2021, 14:44#1
We have the EOYT coming up playing Scotland, Wales and England. Here’s a crazy idea playing three different sides against these three is the way I might go. We have a few players in their 30’s and late 20’s so it’s time to bloody the next generation. This is what I’d be tempted to do: vs Scotland 15. Willemse 14. Stiaan Pienaar 13. Rohan Janse v Rensburg 12. Esterhuizen 11. Penxe 10. Goosen 9. Hendrikse 1. Ox 2. Dweba 3. Nyakane 4. Ruben Schoeman 5. Ruben v Heerden 6. Dylan Richardson 7. Jacques du Plessis 8. Elrigh Louw vs Wales 15. Gelant 14. Mapimpi 13. Jessie Kriel 12. Serfontein 11. Tambwe 10. Jantjies 9. Jantjies 1. Thomas du Toit 2. Mbonambi 3. Malherbe 4. Jenkins 5. Lood 6. Kwagga 7. JL du Preez 8. Evan Roos vs England 15. Fassi 14. Nkosi 13. Am 12. de Allende 11. Kolbe 10. Pollard 9. Faf 1. Kitshoff 2. Marx 3. Wilco Louw 4. Etzebeth 5. RG Snyman 6. Kolisi 7. PSDT 8. Dan du Preez
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,230 posts
05 Oct 2021, 16:02
#2
05 Oct 2021, 16:02#2

When the Boks toured with a mid-week team, it was better for experimentation against inconsequential games that are never part of the history books.
Or even organizing SA A/B teams to play local opposition, or against each other.

With tests, they have to put a team on the park that can win.
This team needs some established combinations, otherwise, it could get embarrassing. 
If the wheels fall off due to players not panning out, and new combinations not working - a settled opposition team could win with a huge victory.

What people remember is that the Boks won the Lions tour but finished third in the 4 nations. 

Some junior players fail as they move up each level. 
(Juniors- Currie Cup- SuperRugby - International). They need to earn man-of-the-match performances at each level before playing international. 


SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
05 Oct 2021, 16:07
#3
05 Oct 2021, 16:07#3
I have confidence in my sides beating each of their opponents but I hear you It would be a brave move taking on Scotland with our 3rd team
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Oct 2021, 16:09
#4
05 Oct 2021, 16:09#4

You’re right….it’s a crazy idea. We have just finished third in the RC, that’s the kind of luxury reserved for winners.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
05 Oct 2021, 17:29
#5
05 Oct 2021, 17:29#5
We are winners we are back at number 1 in the rankings
AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
05 Oct 2021, 18:28
#6
05 Oct 2021, 18:28#6

Of course you are confident. You must have been one of those who never saw Saracens and Leicester coming. Your arrogance blinds you.

Here's the deal: You throw a group of novices in the cauldron together and they typically fail. They have a thoroughly negative experience, get slated back home and we don't really take away anything constructive.

To add insult to injury, your sides are bolstered by some pretty poor selections.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Oct 2021, 22:43
#7
05 Oct 2021, 22:43#7

No team that was convincingly beaten by Oz should be giving themselves selection luxuries. We need to find a winning style that doesn’t rely on luck….like the 50/50 games against Wales, the Lions and the ABs.

We might have made a bit of progress in the last NZ test. Time to build on that, supplement the squad where we need to and have test level talent.

Accelerating a bunch of untested seuntjies into the national team is Destroyli-esque. And we all know how that ended.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
05 Oct 2021, 23:06
#8
05 Oct 2021, 23:06#8
We should have comfortably won the first test against Oz We were never going to win the second test with the selection blunder of Orie and Mostert in the same side Dominating NZ in two tests away from home confirms to me we are back on track and found our momentum The EOYT squad should include the core of our current squad but look to bring some youngsters on board The core for me is Willie, Mapimpi, Nkosi, Kolbe, Kriel, Am, de Allende, Pollard, Jantjies, Faf, Jantjies, Kitshoff, Malherbe, Koch, Nyakane, Marx, Mbonambi, Etzebeth, Lood, RG, Kolisi, PSDT, Kwagga and Vermeulen Good squad additions so far have been Fassi, Penxe, Similane, Willemse, Hendrikse, Nohamba, Thomas du Toit, Wilco Louw, Dweba, Grobelaar, v Staaden, Dan du Preez, JL du Preez and Wiese We need to improve on the centre and lock depth as a priority - we certainly have the players
AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
05 Oct 2021, 23:35
#9
05 Oct 2021, 23:35#9

Acutally, Australia should have won the first test comfortably. They blew 4 tries. Do the math Unteromlett. The second All Black test was the same. Don't kid yourself, they werent up for the second test as much as we were, yet still exposed our soft defence. We haven't won a single game where the opposition didn't blow our defence apart and expose us, Georgia aside. Factor in the outrageous ref bias, and you don't have side that is dominant at this level. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
05 Oct 2021, 23:59
#10
05 Oct 2021, 23:59#10
YAWN
TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
07 Oct 2021, 13:18
#11
07 Oct 2021, 13:18#11

Building squad depth to do what.

SA rugby  mindset and direction is known. They want to keep the illusion going.

And the Autumn tour will be determined by the opposition, noticeably that SA rugby play three games while other teams play four games.

SA rugby are not on a course of building. They are on a course of controlling damage, trying to hide their incoming end.

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