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Trump the establisment's clown

Started by ABasquefan13 REPLIES279 VIEWS· 23 Feb 2016, 11:29
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AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
23 Feb 2016, 11:29
#1
23 Feb 2016, 11:29#1

Last night’s FOX News GOP Presidential Debate Extravaganza featured the most riveting two minute political exchange ever heard on national television. During a brief colloquy between Republican frontrunner  Donald Trump and Fox moderator Brett Baier, the pugnacious casino magnate revealed the appalling truth about the American political system, that the big money guys like Trump own the whole crooked contraption lock, stock, and barrel, and that, the nation’s fake political leaders do whatever they’re told to do.  Without question, it was most illuminating commentary to ever cross the airwaves. Here’s the entire exchange direct from the transcript:

FOX News Brett Baier (talking to Trump): Now, 15 years ago, you called yourself a liberal on health care. You were for a single-payer system, a Canadian-style system. Why were you for that then and why aren’t you for it now?

TRUMP: As far as single payer, it works in Canada. It works incredibly well in Scotland. It could have worked in a different age, which is the age you’re talking about here.

What I’d like to see is a private system without the artificial lines around every state. I have a big company with thousands and thousands of employees. And if I’m negotiating in New York or in New Jersey or in California, I have like one bidder. Nobody can bid.

You know why?

Because the insurance companies are making a fortune because they have control of the politicians, of course, with the exception of the politicians on this stage. (uneasy laughter) But they have total control of the politicians. They’re making a fortune.

Get rid of the artificial lines and you will have…yourself great plans…

BAIER: Mr. Trump, it’s not just your past support for single-payer health care. You’ve also supported a host of other liberal policies….You’ve also donated to several Democratic candidates, Hillary Clinton included, and Nancy Pelosi. You explained away those donations saying you did that to get business-related favors. And you said recently, quote, “When you give, they do whatever the hell you want them to do.”

TRUMP: You’d better believe it.

BAIER: — they do?

TRUMP: If I ask them, if I need them, you know, most of the people on this stage I’ve given to, just so you understand, a lot of money.

TRUMP:  I will tell you that our system is broken. I gave to many people, before this, before two months ago, I was a businessman. I give to everybody. When they call, I give. And do you know what? When I need something from them two years later, three years later, I call them, they are there for me. And that’s a broken system.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What did you get from Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi?

TRUMP: Well, I’ll tell you what, with Hillary Clinton, I said be at my wedding and she came to my wedding. You know why?

She didn’t have a choice because I gave. I gave to a foundation that, frankly, that foundation is supposed to do good. I didn’t know her money would be used on private jets going all over the world. It was.

BAIER: Hold on…..We’re going to — we’re going to move on.” (Transcript: Read the Full Text of the Primetime Republican Debate, Time, emphasis added)

There it is, two glorious minutes of pure, unalloyed truth on national television. How often does that happen?

How often does a fatcat billionaire-insider appear on TV and announce that the whole system is a big-fat scam run by crooks and patsies?

Never, that’s when. But that’s what Trump did last night. And that’s why the clatter of ruthless miscreants who run the system behind the smokescreen of fake politicians are sharpening their knives right now before Manhattan’s rogue elephant does even more damage to their precious system.

Just think about what the man said. He not only explained that the whole system is rigged (Baier: “And when you give, they do whatever the hell you want them to do.”…TRUMP: “You’d better believe it.”), he also said that the politicians will do whatever they’re told to do.  (TRUMP: Well, …with Hillary Clinton, I said be at my wedding and she came to my wedding. You know why? She didn’t have a choice because I gave.”)

Doesn’t that confirm your darkest suspicions about the way the system really works, that money talks and that elections are just a way to get the sheeple to rubber-stamp a corrupt, fraudulent system?

Of course, it does.

So, let’s summarize: Moneybags capitalist loudmouth explains to 80 million dumbfounded Americans watching prime time TV, that the system is a total fraud, that the big money runs everything, and that even he thinks the system is broken.

How do you beat that? Seriously, my wife and I were laughing and high-fiving and like we just won the lottery.

Thanks for that, Don. We owe you one.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Feb 2016, 16:48
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23 Feb 2016, 16:48#2
 If you give somebody money....you get something in return. Wow, what a revelation. Listen up moron, when you make a charitable contribution in the USA, the IRS makes the donee provide a form. On that form any benefit provided to the donor has to be quantified. It's part of the system.
Good will is obviously hard to quantify, and if somebody returns a favour it will in all likelihood be disassociated. But the system works.
How does one know that you ask. Well when the tsunami devastated the Pacific, when Parts of Africa were ravaged  by Ebola.......by far the biggest individual contributions came from private American donors.
Suck on that you clueless communist.
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
23 Feb 2016, 17:19
#3
23 Feb 2016, 17:19#3
this is not aimed to open any discussion, it's just the first article I found,...... I didn't even read it,.... the only aim is to stop the fascist propaganda flood on this site
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
23 Feb 2016, 17:22
#4
23 Feb 2016, 17:22#4
 it was quite clear,...... but it seems that needs an explanationj for blunts
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Feb 2016, 17:53
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23 Feb 2016, 17:53#5
Who gave you that job? If you look at the "fascist propaganda" to use your term, you will see almost every regular Board poster has participated, this being a quiet rugby period.
There were a few such strings. They were an entertaining diversion. Your 'cure' has now totally gummed up the Board.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Feb 2016, 18:08
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23 Feb 2016, 18:08#7
 Mozart
If the above is true I do not like it.  They talk about Zuma and Gupta in SA - or Zum a and Shaik,   It sounds very much if the politicos in the US have refined corruption to a fine art.   Not really what one expect from the US in any event.     
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Feb 2016, 18:16
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23 Feb 2016, 18:16#8
 The above is rubbish. Trumps point is the political process is influenced by lobbyists, and because he is spending his own money he is not beholden to any special interests. That's been a concern for a long time and probably needs some transparency.
He also donates his private aircraft to take poor kids to hospitals. But that's not totally unusual,  corporate America spends Billions on charity.
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
23 Feb 2016, 18:20
#9
23 Feb 2016, 18:20#9
 tralara, tralalala,
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Feb 2016, 18:22
#10
23 Feb 2016, 18:22#10
 Strings 1 through 6 and 11 through 15 are your disrupter efforts, along with your colleague MongBeeno. You have totally gummed up the Board....Basque.
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
23 Feb 2016, 18:27
#11
23 Feb 2016, 18:27#11
 yeah, that's the point,...... I gummed up the same way Beeno1 has been doing for a long time and you told him nothing.

Oh, and mine's are only the threads I sign, far fewer than those of Beeno . I don't know MungBeeno
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
23 Feb 2016, 21:03
#12
23 Feb 2016, 21:03#12
 lalalala
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
23 Feb 2016, 21:34
#13
23 Feb 2016, 21:34#13
 <yusgefauifa
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
24 Feb 2016, 15:11
#14
24 Feb 2016, 15:11#14
 
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