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Tsituka brothers

Started by Saffolk 16 REPLIES1,433 VIEWS· 05 Dec 2022, 16:14
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
05 Dec 2022, 16:14
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05 Dec 2022, 16:14#1
How bloody good are these brothers? Wow what talents they are. Vincent has shone for a season or two now and been snapped up by the Sharks His younger brother Emmanuel was simply brilliant for the Lions at 8 on Sunday - what a player Both have it all - strength, size, speed, skill and an engine that never stops SA rugby sort your shit out and make sure these two get their SA passports. The same applies to wing Madosh Tambwe who was brilliant for the Bulls and now shining up French rugby
KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
05 Dec 2022, 16:31
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05 Dec 2022, 16:31#2

I saw that he played at 4 lock for Sharks, probably adding more versatility, but not sure he is tall enough for a traditional SA lock. 

Emmanuel has shone through now that his brother is at the sharks. 

Our loose forward cupboard is looking great at the moment. Just hope we can keep them in SA.

Not sure how many caps they would e arn, given that we have Louw, Roos, Wiese, PSDT, Kolisi, Van Staden etc. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
05 Dec 2022, 17:28
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05 Dec 2022, 17:28#3
Yeah Vincent played 4 for the Sharks, he is certainly no lock. They said it was a temporary move as Eben will slot back in there I’d take the Tsituka brothers over v Staaden all day long Different players but I’m more about squad space Emmanuel is so athletic - what a player
AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
05 Dec 2022, 17:34
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05 Dec 2022, 17:34#4

Have to agree on the young #8 in the Lions game.

He showed speed, strength and was very active in the loose.

Trust that his skill is observed by the guys in the SARU.

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
05 Dec 2022, 18:31
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05 Dec 2022, 18:31#5

Both brothers has got real talent...hopefully they will get a chance....would also prefer them over van staden.

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
05 Dec 2022, 18:36
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05 Dec 2022, 18:36#6

Here are my looseforwards picks along with some of the existing loosies. Still think we are short on a great 6 or fetcher. Kolisi is to my mind a 7 and an attacking player, but he is not as physical as a genuine 7.

Hacjivah Dayimani (25) 188cm 99kg 7 + 8


Evan Roos (22) 191cm 109kg 8


Emmanuel Tshituka (22) 194cm 106kg 7, 8 


Vincent Tshituka (24)195cm 107kg 7, 4


Ruan Venter (20) 198cm 118kg 7, 4, 5


Pepsi Buthelezi (23) 188cm 102kg 6, 8


Elrigh Louw (23) 195cm 112kg


Jasper Wiese (27) 190cm 110kg 8 


Kwagga Smith (29) 180cm 95kg 8,7, 6


Marco van Staken (27) 184cm 106kg 6


Siy Kolisi (31) 188 105kg, 6,7 


PSDT (30) 200cm 120kg, 7,5  


Jean Luc Du Preez (27) 193cm, 113kg 8,7 


Dan Du Preez (27) 196cm, 112kg 8, 4


Juarno Augustos (24) 187cm 116kg, 8

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
06 Dec 2022, 09:45
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06 Dec 2022, 09:45#7

SA rugby playing again the race card. Their failure to bring rugby to the local population never ceases to amaze. SA rugby best failure in human history. Can not be beaten.

Already stated but worth being repeated: since SA rugby have only one obsession, having quota players in the international squad to hide the appaling situation of rugby in SA, they should look at poaching quota talents from the North. At least, they would be drilled in playing rugby.

DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
06 Dec 2022, 10:04
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06 Dec 2022, 10:04#8

".....but not sure he is tall enough for a traditional SA lock....."

No that's not right, he's my height and I'm the same height as Victor Matfield. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
06 Dec 2022, 11:43
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06 Dec 2022, 11:43#9
Vincent is 1.95m so too short for a lock. The commentators said his move to lock was a stop gap. Eben will be the Sharks number 4 with Grobelaar at 5. They don’t really have a good 3rd lock though after losing Ruben v Heerden to England. Le Roux Roets is good but out with a knee injury for 6 months plus Matfield was 2.01m
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
06 Dec 2022, 11:56
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06 Dec 2022, 11:56#10

Something wrong, I stood next to Matfield with my arm over his shoulder and we were the same height but I'm not 2.01 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
06 Dec 2022, 12:11
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06 Dec 2022, 12:11#11
Matfield has always been listed at 2m with Bakkies a similar height. Big Vic always looked the right height for a lock whereas a guy like Itoje does not Denny it’s difficult to judge someone’s height when you are standing next to him, you might have been slightly shorter but standing next to him you probably felt you were the same height Whenever you see Itoje partnered with another lock he always looks shorter and he stands at 1.95m like Vincent
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
06 Dec 2022, 12:20
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06 Dec 2022, 12:20#12
King I’d definitely add the du Preez twins to your list of loosies along with Liebenberg and Ackerman The younger Wiese is also a quality player Also a big fan of Jaco Coetzee
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
06 Dec 2022, 12:36
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06 Dec 2022, 12:36#13

Dave, I have a photo of Matfield and myself taken in the hotel lobby where we stayed in Newcastle. Obviously won't post the photo but I can assure you we stood side by side and as I've said I had my arm around his shoulder. Bakkies instead made me feel like a dwarf, he is enormous.

Anyway, no matter.

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
06 Dec 2022, 12:38
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06 Dec 2022, 12:38#14

The younger Wiese has not stood out as much for me or seen his name that often pop up in the media. Coetzee has been injured for some time now and hardly featured for bath. Ackerman has had a few good games for Gloucestershire but he has gone quite since his dad left for Japan. 

I just wish that an SA franchise would get the Du Preez twins back in SA. 

I remember that Currie Cup game when they were snubbed by Coetzee and Nacho got selected ahead of them. They completely destroyed the forwards and Nacho had no answer to their physicality. Every time he touched the ball that would literally pick him up and drive him into the ground. Just a pity our coaches don't know how to utilise them. Talk about adding physicality to your pack. 

But, I saw Wiese having another stellar game for Leicester over the weekend. 27 Carries which was an insane amount for a player. 

Augustus Groot has also been playing well for Northampton and finally living up to use u21 player of the tournament. But I'm not sure if he is even in the same class as Evan Roos or the Tsisuka brothers. 

But if I had to pick a succession list in the order I believe would ensure that we have a great conveyer belt of inform and at their peak players then I would order the list as follow

6. Kwagga, Van Staden, Pepsi (Pepsi reminds me of Savea and Hooper)

7. PSDT, Jean Luc Du Preez, Elrich Louw, Tsituka, Venter 

8. Roos, Wiese, Dan Du Preez, Handre Lieben berg, Dyamani, Augustos 

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
06 Dec 2022, 12:44
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06 Dec 2022, 12:44#15

But the stormers have two very promising 6 in Junior Pokemelo and Nama Xaba. Xaba is a real ball hawk but with have picked a number of injuries, but it is because he sticks his head in. 

Junior Pokomela (25) 190cm 108kg, 6

Nama Xaba (25) 185cm 103kg, 6

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
06 Dec 2022, 21:17
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06 Dec 2022, 21:17#16
I’d have Pepsi ahead of v Staden and Liebenberg is better suited to 7 not 8 The younger Wiese has mostly been played at lock no surprise there at 1.99 and 121kg Big fan of Jaco Coetzee Agreed - biggest failing by Rassie was not investing in the du Preez twins - they are physical freaks in the Marx and Bismark mould Added some good touches to their game playing for the Sharks in particular the offload
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Dec 2022, 20:34
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07 Dec 2022, 20:34#17

Physical freaks in the Groucho Marx mould, they keep dropping things. Now the Burundi cousins are a different story 2 metres/120kgs/ 100metres in 11 seconds. Still a bit inexperienced they are both only 16 I see a huge future for these chaps. Men in this family apparently top out at 300kgs but apparently lose a bit of pace with the last 20 or so kgs.

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