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Two defensive philosophies…one winner

Started by Mozart18 REPLIES937 VIEWS· 07 Aug 2022, 23:43
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MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Aug 2022, 23:43
#1
07 Aug 2022, 23:43#1

One would suspect that the team that made 117 of 126 tackles at 93% would have bested the team that made 121 of 146 tackles at 83%. But the AB  tackling tended to be neutral, bring the man down….in South Africa’s case particularly in the first 25 minutes it was aggressive designed to get the man behind the gain line and prevent the pass.


The push defence worked.  NZ lost coherence and couldn’t establish their pattern of play, whereas the Boks were never under that much pressure.


That kind of frenetic defense combined with Marx turning over the ball at the breakdown presented NZ with a puzzle they never unlocked.

MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
07 Aug 2022, 23:51
#2
07 Aug 2022, 23:51#2

You are totally wrong Mozart. You're buying into the yarpie bullshit. Any rational human being fucking saw the All Blacks blow the defence apart. The defenders beaten is lopsided. The Kiwis beat themselves... they refused to play for territory. Those breaks and defenders beaten aren't deadly inside or around your 22. The Bok defence is horseshit. Not one big time defender. Run over, run around and beaten cleanly. The Boks cannot win the physical battle on the line. It's been that way for a long time. But the arrogant yarpies live their masculinity through Splingblock strength. It's a fucking myth. The Blocks haven't been physical since the 2011 season. End of fucking story. The Kiwis can fix their tactics and play a more balanced game, I doubt it, as Foster is fucking deluded. The Blocks are playing shit on attack and shit on defence. The linocut was okay but not was I expected. The Kiwis are running from deep and they pay the price. Both Block tries whic really were soft tries. The Blocks never once looked like creating anything themselves despite total domination of field position. The Block defence is a fucking mess and I don't know how Erasmus can work with such a talentless group of players. This team stands no chance winning the world Cup. They are absolute bollocks. It's fucking obvious Erasmus has done all he can for these useless assholes.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
07 Aug 2022, 23:59
#3
07 Aug 2022, 23:59#3
That same team thrashed England in the last WC final you fucking idiot
MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
08 Aug 2022, 00:02
#4
08 Aug 2022, 00:02#4

4 out of 5 you stupid prick. Soon to be 5 out of 6. You cunts should just stick to football. Rugby is a man's game and the Blocks just aren't man enough for the game. Too fucking weak. The modern Dutchman is just a poof so much so that useless quotas are pushing their way into the pack. Useless and embarrassing. Only a yarpie can dish up shit and feel like the king of the castle. More like stig of the dump. 

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Aug 2022, 00:19
#5
08 Aug 2022, 00:19#5

Kitchener is that you?

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
08 Aug 2022, 09:09
#6
08 Aug 2022, 09:09#6

The match I watched showed an All Black side farming in their own half for the first 30 minutes.

Your boys looked confused and without a game plan. Totally disorganized. 

What happened to your confidence? You lost the match before you even ran onto the park.

Your coaching staff would have known that the Goats use the rush defense and yet you were unprepared for it.

How come?

Is Foster stupid or just incompetent?

This is a coach you selected on merit.

The Goats have a quota coach in Stick. Instead of working his way through the ranks from club rugby level to test rugby, they fast tracked him direct into the test team.

You have no excuse for that display.

Looks like they fired all the wrong coaches.

I didn't see the All Blacks breaking the yarpies defense until the 2nd half ... which lead to a nice try ... but that was basically a once off ... and only due to some poor defense from the quota Goats..

There was no consistency from you and the superb ball handling skills we've all come to associate with the men in black deserted you ... which lead to Brainfatrs fall over try.

The world needs a potent All Black side ... and this is not it.




DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Aug 2022, 09:43
#7
08 Aug 2022, 09:43#7

That Willemse tackle  was something to behold ...pity it didn't stop the try, but that showed total, almost desperate commitment not seen much these days.

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
08 Aug 2022, 16:51
#8
08 Aug 2022, 16:51#8

Ja the push defence works, only if the line moves up in cohesion.....if one of our Guys misses a tackle, there is more to cover....willie's try came because of sustained pressure Defence, the mistake came and Willie pounced.....All we need now is more Structured Backline Attack, not running side ways and pushing our wings into touch, but straight lines shortest way to the Goal line...Willemse showed more than once in the URC, how effective he is in that 12 channel....and by the way Rosie you like calling Saffas Yarpies, but you conveniently forget that you are the biggest Yarpie Ass existing in the whole of England 

MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
08 Aug 2022, 18:17
#9
08 Aug 2022, 18:17#9

Wilie's try had nothing to do with pressure, it was a mistimed and misplaced pass. They were forcing the wide game, they didn't have to. The Blocks were actually quite passive on defence. Missed lots of tackles, couldn't stop the big runners and couldn't track those lines. The Block defence is shit. Two games in a row with around 83% tackling. This is now a long-standing trend of mediocrity. The Blocks cannot defend on the line. They cannot absorb pressure. As soon as teams commit to keeping the ball AND playing in the right areas of the field... the Blocks fold like a fucking deck of cards. But the yarpie ego is too fucking big to accept that they aren't the oiled up macho men of world rugby. Shitty south Africa... the only thing you have left is clinging onto the past and trying to believe you still have something to be proud of. What you watched on Saturday was a relic of the past being washed away by time. The Blocks and Kiwis... used to be THE big event, but now you feel bad for them like an old heavyweight you see struggling to shuffle his feet. Keep talking shit, when the big splat happens I'll come back and see you all fucking whining again. Never fucking see it coming. Didn't see it coming in 2009 either... too fucking high on yourselves. |And that was an actual physical Block team, not the cream puff pussies of the day. 

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
08 Aug 2022, 19:25
#10
08 Aug 2022, 19:25#10

Last guy I saw as unhinged as Rosie was Warped Dud. Just as daft and just as uncouth. 


DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Aug 2022, 19:35
#11
08 Aug 2022, 19:35#11

No man  Beenz, Trad is also still around.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Aug 2022, 19:36
#12
08 Aug 2022, 19:36#12

Rose is becoming a bore.

MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
08 Aug 2022, 19:59
#13
08 Aug 2022, 19:59#13

Oh dear, boring getting your arse paddled huh??? Too fucking bad. Keep talking shyte and you'll keep getting put in your place. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Aug 2022, 21:05
#14
08 Aug 2022, 21:05#14

Not really you have told us dozens of  times the Boks are awful, dumb, blockheads etc etc. That they are being ripped apart.

It’s all repetitive, you have one idea and it’s not even a very interesting one….hence boring.

PA
PakieCaptain17,321 posts
08 Aug 2022, 21:09
#15
08 Aug 2022, 21:09#15

Ja Blocks are fucking shit has a fairly short shelf life as a conversation piece.

XA
XaviPro1,924 posts
08 Aug 2022, 21:17
#16
08 Aug 2022, 21:17#16

I wouldn't even bother engaging with the clown. Feed the monkey and he'll keep coming back. All the doos wants is a rise.

MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
08 Aug 2022, 21:38
#17
08 Aug 2022, 21:38#17

I like feeding the pigeons... they do make a lot of noise though XD

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
09 Aug 2022, 03:56
#18
09 Aug 2022, 03:56#18
And the one pigeon is a Poes 
MS
Mrs SearlePro1,533 posts
09 Aug 2022, 07:08
#19
09 Aug 2022, 07:08#19

Is that a raised hand I see from you Mglower? There's a good wee fella, have s ome breadcrumbs...

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