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Useless Werner Kruger getting owned

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
31 Jan 2015, 18:18
#1
31 Jan 2015, 18:18#1

In the scrums in the first half. Man he has no hard edge. That's the only Bulls negative, they are dominating all other aspects of the game.


19 year old Liebenberg at 8 looks a good prospect. Great break by Jan at 12. du Plessis at 4 is very good as is Hougaard 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Jan 2015, 19:09
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31 Jan 2015, 19:09#2
Bar the fact that they have propproblems with Kruger in the mix - the Blue Bulls looked dangerous insofar as the Super 15 series is concerned.
There are some problems that impacted on the game - Stegmann gave away way too many penalties.   I do not think that Pierre Spies made a difference - the youngster Liebenberg looked a good prospect.
There is one issue clear today - Matfield should stay where he was today - in the coaching box.   He will just weaken the team if he is allowed on the field of play.   
I think Jacques du Plessis showed us today where he shoud actually play - at lock where he should actually be a no 5 lock.
Lastly - that break of Jesse Kriel indicates he is going to be a top class full back - excellent.     
SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
31 Jan 2015, 19:14
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31 Jan 2015, 19:14#3
 That's why Kriel will never be a winger, what a waste it would be putting him there 
JJ looked better out at the wing it must be said and I was impressed by most of the players, the numbers for RG Snyman's weight and height don't describe how big he looks on the pitch well enough. Christ. 
Whoever that women sat near the camera was, she needed to shut her trap, couldn't handle another minute of her noise....
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
31 Jan 2015, 19:17
#4
31 Jan 2015, 19:17#4
Good outing by the Bulls with du Plessis getting MOM.
I liked the look of young RG Snyman the replacement lock another mountain of a kid.
Marcel v/d Merwe was a huge improvement on Kruger at 3 only to be kneed in the knee by his own player. Hope he is ok.
Jessie Kriel is a real talent at 15 or 13.
Liebenberg at 8 looks a real find and du Plessis has Bok written all over him. What a lock pair he and Willemse could have been for the Bulls.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
31 Jan 2015, 19:19
#5
31 Jan 2015, 19:19#5
 JJ was never on the wing what utter bullshit.
SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
31 Jan 2015, 19:21
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31 Jan 2015, 19:21#6
 That's what I forgot to mention, hope Marcel is fine as it was bit of a freak accident. This new look Bulls game plan seems to be benefiting Hougaard as well as the rest of the team and does make me wonder who actually deserves the credit.
Serfontein was fantastic, much to Mozart's disdain. 
Great to watch some Saffa rugby after such a long break, thankful as well because it was a good match!
SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
31 Jan 2015, 19:24
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31 Jan 2015, 19:24#7
He wasn't put on the wing so to speak, but he was there often and did well. Assisting Spies for his try and when he tackled the Saracen's player from behind after over running his rush defence.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
31 Jan 2015, 19:40
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31 Jan 2015, 19:40#8
Oh so because he popped up on the wing once and threw a nice inside pass to Spies, he looked better on the wing.....what utter s h i t.
JJ is now a 13 where he belongs.....end of
Nice break by Jan beating his man on the outside.....once again proving he has all the skills in the book unlike some would have us believe he only has an inside step!!
SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
31 Jan 2015, 19:48
#9
31 Jan 2015, 19:48#9
 I'd rather see him at wing where he can take Basson's spot, put Small-Smith or someone else at 13.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Jan 2015, 19:49
#10
31 Jan 2015, 19:49#10
 The one player I followed as well was Labuschagne - while on the field his hard tackles drove the players back - he caused the turnover that ultimately resulted in one of the tries and tool the line -out ball leading up to Hougaard's try.   A couple of strong ball carries as well.   He also caused  a tackled harlequins player to hold onto the ball when trying to recover one and a penalty for the B ulls followed.    I think the Bulls did well to get him on contract.  Hope his injury is not serious.       
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Jan 2015, 20:34
#11
31 Jan 2015, 20:34#11

Jan beating his man on the outside.....a little hard to believe given he was gassed by Owen Farrell on a bum leg. Who was his man the opposing prop.

 

Who were these guys playing....a top European team?  

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becsPro4,378 posts
31 Jan 2015, 20:41
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31 Jan 2015, 20:41#12
 No, they were playing a mish mash of Saracens players.....the Internationals are missing because they are on duty, they have a lot of injuries and they have to play a Cup game tomorrow.So, what they played was a mix of a team, not Saracens.
Hope that helps ! 
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
31 Jan 2015, 20:56
#13
31 Jan 2015, 20:56#13
 Jan has never been gassed by Farrell that is just rubbish.
Moz are you saying Jan did NOT beat his man on the outside today a simple yes or no will do
Small - Smith is bog ordinary. JJ is a 13 and that's where he belongs and will stay. It takes rugby ignorance to wait to move him back to wing or just plain bloody stupidity.
Becs the SA sides never play a full strength Sarries side on tour. Nor was the Bulls side at full strength. 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
31 Jan 2015, 21:05
#14
31 Jan 2015, 21:05#14
 Saf, not too long ago you rated Kruger as a potential Bok great. Why did you change your mind?
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
31 Jan 2015, 21:15
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31 Jan 2015, 21:15#15
 Why you ask Draad. Well what else can one do when events overtake you?
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
31 Jan 2015, 21:17
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31 Jan 2015, 21:17#16
Draad you are wrong....it was a long time ago. He looked like he had potential as a youngster but has been exposed time and again over the years and I conceded I was wrong about him ages ago but some clowns just cant seem to come to terms with that very fact and in the process expose themselves.
Kruger is crap and has been for some time. What really irritates me about him is that he has no balls, no hard edge. He gets beaten in the first scrum and instead of showing some fight, lies down like a scared puppy and gets beaten again in the next scrum.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Jan 2015, 21:44
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31 Jan 2015, 21:44#17

Oh come now Dave you dumped on me when I said Werner was a paper tiger....as recently as 2013. He was your big pick as the new Bok tighthead candidate.

 

As for Step being gassed by Farrell......he sure was. Farrell fielded a deep ball and ran towards the open touch, in the process he gassed JP and your man Steppie. Check your tapes.  

 

As for his beating his man today, who knows. US television doesn't carry meaningless romps against Sarries Second Team as Becs describes it. That's why I asked the question....who did he beat? 

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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
31 Jan 2015, 22:22
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31 Jan 2015, 22:22#18
 Serfontein beat his opposite number, Wyles. Brilliant run and a good sign of things to come, also ankle tapped the winger who made a break. 
The only players that played badly were Callie Visagie and Werner Kruger.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
31 Jan 2015, 22:37
#19
31 Jan 2015, 22:37#19
No Moz Farrell would never gas Jan or JP not possible. Jan is no speed merchant but nor is Farrell my guess is that they are about par.
As for me and Kruger in 2013 that is just a lie. I dumped Kruger many years ago. He has not featured in my squads for years - Fact
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
31 Jan 2015, 22:39
#20
31 Jan 2015, 22:39#20
Jan beat Wyles a regular first team player and he beat him on the outside. It was a great break by him. 
Jan is a class act.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Jan 2015, 23:50
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31 Jan 2015, 23:50#21
 Mozart is the miracle man on the sight - he can past judgement on performances of players without having seen matches.
I am not sure which Cup Saracen is involved in this weekend.    There is no Aviva premiership games this weekend - Saracens next game is on 15 Febru ary 2015.   
I know the internationals of Saracens was not available for this game - but fact is most of the players Saracens played are in their match day 13 regularly.       
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Feb 2015, 00:14
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01 Feb 2015, 00:14#22
Okay maybe 2012
 Saffex 
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June 02, 2012, 22:17:53

 Moz I take it you missed Spies slap Jean out of the way. Spies had a good game. Kolisi did not gas Engelbrecht, JJ let him slip out of his grasp, was unbalanced. JJ and JP today were far better than Jean and de Jongh. Olivier was good but for those stray passes. Morne was poor. Kolisi was huge, what a player this kid is. Habana was good as was Duvehage.

Hougaard is always a threat. Flip and Jeandre were great. Flip showed again what a good lock he is. Eztebeth was hard as was Elstadt. Dewaldt Potgieter again had a good game as did CJ Stander. Werner Kruger is a worthy back-up to Jannie. Quinn Roux showed why he should have been playing S15 all season


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
01 Feb 2015, 01:45
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01 Feb 2015, 01:45#23

 "Werner Kruger is a worthy back-up to Jannie."


The truth and nothi ng but the truth.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
01 Feb 2015, 01:47
#24
01 Feb 2015, 01:47#24

  "No, they were playing a mish mash of Saracens players...."


In other words the Bulls played a nothing side. Good to see that someone has some perspective. Thanks.

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becsPro4,378 posts
01 Feb 2015, 03:21
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01 Feb 2015, 03:21#25
 It is the LV Cup...Anglo Welsh Cup, the Domestic Trophy.
And the players do not all feature regularly in the match day Squad, some rarely play at all these days, one flew in from Durban yesterday ( because he has left and joined the Sharks but came back as cover because the Squad is so sparse now )For example, the Squad is now so short of Fly Halves, Hodgson had to play even though he will be expected to start most, if not all, of the matches until Farrell is fit enough...that will be at least three months !  He rarely starts these days and can't usually be expected to play a full match.....so Sarries really are going to have to dig into the special dispensation box and sign themselves a 10 as cover for the rest of the Season now. Third or fourth choice Hooker ? Jackson Wray might have been playing his 100th Club game, but he rarely starts these days and neither does Ernst Joubert. I could go through the entire team and tell you who is usually in the match day first XV....but I won't !! 
The Bulls will have at least had a good training run and worked out combinations, that's useful in any bodies book. I believe it was a recent Welsh International that was making mincemeat out of the player Saffex refers to....

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Feb 2015, 12:07
#26
01 Feb 2015, 12:07#26
There we go then and at no point have I ever had him ahead of Jannie. I dumped useless Kruger some time ago. It's been years not months.
Sarries had a good side out it was missing a few more starters than the Bulls side was. Those who don't watch NH rugby should refrain from passing judgement on the side as they are making their names arse.
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becsPro4,378 posts
01 Feb 2015, 13:35
#27
01 Feb 2015, 13:35#27
 Rhys Gill, wasn't it ? The player he was having problems with ? 
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Feb 2015, 14:08
#28
01 Feb 2015, 14:08#28
Yeah, Kruger has problems with most, he is useless. Marcel replaced him and in the first scrum the Bulls were awarded a free kick, followed by a penalty soon thereafter.
Sadly Marcel then got kneed by his own player and had to go off
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becsPro4,378 posts
01 Feb 2015, 17:26
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01 Feb 2015, 17:26#29
That's right.....nasty injury. Looked like ligaments, didn't it ?  
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Feb 2015, 22:18
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01 Feb 2015, 22:18#30
 No just looked like a hard knock but time will tell. Good sign that he walked off but then so did Farrell.
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becsPro4,378 posts
01 Feb 2015, 23:17
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01 Feb 2015, 23:17#31
 Well he was making enough fuss, writhing around !  
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Feb 2015, 23:39
#32
01 Feb 2015, 23:39#32
Because it bloody hurt, probably because it was the same knee that kept him out of rugby for a while last season
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becsPro4,378 posts
01 Feb 2015, 23:46
#33
01 Feb 2015, 23:46#33
 I was the one saying it looked nasty...you just said it was a knock 
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
01 Feb 2015, 23:55
#34
01 Feb 2015, 23:55#34
 Knocks hurt
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becsPro4,378 posts
02 Feb 2015, 00:13
#35
02 Feb 2015, 00:13#35
 I know they do ! 
But I thought you were all big and tough ?  
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