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Vast decline from our RWC team and execution

Started by Mozart6 REPLIES281 VIEWS· 26 Aug 2012, 23:22
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Aug 2012, 23:22
#1
26 Aug 2012, 23:22#1

 Lambie is far superior to the energizer bunny at 15. JP massively better than Mvovo.  Jean is better than Fury who lost the QF or Fransie.....the centres are a neutral. Morne was a much more confident player at the RWC. F du Preez diminished but still superior to Hougard. Victor better than Bekker...and the loosies massively superior to the two fatties and the kid.

 

And the coaching staff is a group of non entities and the always failing Rassie Erasmus. Hell Muir and Gold are looking like heavyweights. What is this all about ? 

 

Some of this is outside Meyers control....some due to selection. We are set for big away losses, even against an incompetent Aussie team.

 

Heyneke seems very vulnerable . He is over reacting to small things. His statement that the players have let the nation down huge hyperbole.

 

 

He has to get things in perspective and be more willing to accept short term set backs. This is a natural turning point for our great 2004 to 2011 team. Some losses are inevitable. And acceptable as long as there is sensible progress. But clinging to a Bools lifeline, being too afraid of the Bargies to attack and then over reacting.....all leave one feeling there is no maturity, no balance.

 

This guy could be gone fast if he doesn't manage expectations.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,301 posts
27 Aug 2012, 00:46
#2
27 Aug 2012, 00:46#2

 Jake White built the team. PDV maintained it and rode the gravy train in doing so. It was allways going to be a rebuilding phase after PDV.

Unfortunately many of the substandard Bulls are taking up positions in the squad for newer younger players or more experienced older players who are better in their respective positions.

Hieken Meyer is letting the nation down. The players do not choose themselves

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Aug 2012, 00:58
#3
27 Aug 2012, 00:58#3

New players to the team, post RWC

 

Kirchner....no way a dumb player like this makes it.

 

Mvovo....too flimsy under the high ball, the NZ wings will eat him alive

 

Hougaard at scrummie.....great player, but a clumsy scrum half, the jury is coming back in

 

Strauss....no Bismarck, but who is

 

Etzebeth...the one unequivocal new player succes, a great in the. Making

 

Coetzee.....hot and cold, but manhandled by the Bargies and third Pom test.

 

Potgieter...the latest crone, Deysel incarnation. Easily handled at international level.

 

 

So there are very few successes ...partly because of poor selections, but this is no. Class of 2004 in talent terms 

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
27 Aug 2012, 01:18
#4
27 Aug 2012, 01:18#4

Sharkgoat, you are clearly obsessed with the Bulls. You have probably not even noticed that there were only four Bulls left in the team this weekend, but apart from that our crap started up front where our forwards were stuffed. Four off those forwards, and in effect that core of the pack, were Sharks and they could not decide which were more crap than the other. Alberts were no better than Potgieter. Coetzee was absent. Jannie was as stupid and ill-dissiplined as ever and Beast needs a kick up the back-side, because he is becoming lazy and I get the impression that he knows that he has no competition, with Gurthro gone and Coenie injured. He has done bugger all yesterday. Daniel did not offer any improvement when he came on.

 

The sad part is that unfortunately for Heyneke Meyer there is not much better outside of the squad. As far as the rest of the pack is concerned, it was only Strauss and, in a way, Engelbrecht that offered anything. Suster Bekker was close to being a liability.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,301 posts
27 Aug 2012, 01:32
#5
27 Aug 2012, 01:32#5

 Ceradyne- It is not all the Bulls players fault, but they have  been consistently the worst player performances of the Boks so far in 5 games under Meyer.

Werner Kruger, Flip Van Der Penalty, Potgieter, Morne Steyn and Kirchner. 

No way Potgieter played the same as Alberts- in this game or the others. Potgieter has had about 4 games now and done nothing. He is supposed to be a ball carrier- but has made about 10mm or something across the gainline

The players are gat vol of Morne kicking away the ball to gain 20 metres but lose possesion. As a forward this is very demoralising.

Daniel did offer improvement when he came on- he got involved right away with the best turnover of the game for the boks-  and kicked the ball out for a 5 minute lineout in the Argentinian 22. If was one of the better field positions of the game, and much better than all of Morne aimless kicking. 

I thought most of the players played poorly yesterday, but with Morne just kicking away everything is is demoralising

 

CA
carpetmuncherPro1,667 posts
27 Aug 2012, 13:42
#6
27 Aug 2012, 13:42#6

i personally think the bulls players are not to blame but there is a huge amount of one eyed selections that are not part of the player that are on top form at the moment.

 

the playing pattern and player selections are not up to standard. i for one wont mind to see certain players axed and the playing style being ajusted to suite a more dynamic approach

CA
carpetmuncherPro1,667 posts
27 Aug 2012, 13:48
#7
27 Aug 2012, 13:48#7

the biggest change from the RWC to now if the playing style.......went from the last game against the aussies that was dynamic up tempo and quick skillfull rugby to this trench warfare with the likes of GHD potgieter with his primary school mentaility of trying to run over players.

 

sad to see but i know this type of performances will cause change quicker so in a sense i am happy this type of game has happend. this will force change

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