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Wallies vs Poms showcased their rugby DNA

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Mar 2020, 01:12
#1
08 Mar 2020, 01:12#1

The Wallies were largely physically dominated except for a few clever bits of counter attack. The poor Welsh guys were lying all over the park after the collisions.


The Poms had little to offer except muscle and the boot....and dirty play. Highlighted by the Joe Marler penis grab.


Two ordinary teams.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,236 posts
08 Mar 2020, 03:40
#2
08 Mar 2020, 03:40#2
It looks like France has taken back the mantle as leaders of the Northern Hemisphere. 
Both Ireland and Wales peaked before the world cup, and are not playing at their form 2-3 seasons ago. England is solid, but their one match win against New Zealand in the semi has given them elevated status- and it is not something they can do a week on week. 
DE
DennyCaptain12,893 posts
08 Mar 2020, 09:34
#3
08 Mar 2020, 09:34#3

"......and it is something they no team can do week on week."

The POMS played out of their skins against the All Blacks, it was their grand final, to repeat that same performance they would have needed to field a whole new team. Take nothing away from them, they are a damn good side.


AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
08 Mar 2020, 10:15
#4
08 Mar 2020, 10:15#4

England didn't need to repeat that performance, they needed to produce a different kind of performance. That was their undoing. They were the more potent attacking side, the Boks simply took that superior arsenal out of the picture. Essentially, the scrum won the game. No scrum dominance and we likely lose that final. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Mar 2020, 10:56
#5
08 Mar 2020, 10:56#5

Simplicity and idiotc assumption are back in all their glory.   He saw nothing and learned nothing from the WC last year and as per normal did not understand what happened at all.    So now the scrum  dominance won the game?   No wonder one can just enjoy and laugh at the standard idiocy spout by some of our members.   Welcome back AO  - your first series of postings were the same a it always was - a joke!!!!  LMAO             

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Mar 2020, 15:17
#6
08 Mar 2020, 15:17#6

Scrum dominance did win the game. England’s front row was penalized 5 times.....but they still dominated territory and possession.    The failure of their scrum totally unhinged their best attacking options and demoralized their team.


Scrums and defence won the match....not the ‘ball in hand’ rugby you and other fools have been calling for Wanker.


I’m a great fan of Vermeulen, but the Beast won that test....and our scrum dominance left the park when Kitshoff came on for the Beast.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Mar 2020, 16:16
#7
08 Mar 2020, 16:16#7

Foeitog the idiots missed the two tries scored by the  Springboks which added 14 points to the total  score of the Springboks.

Scrum dominance and defense was important contributors of the win - but the way the game was  planned and the measures to ensure dominance was part of the game plan, was in even greater contributors to the victory - especially bearing in mind the victory margin,  .   

The total planning scenario was way ahead of what was previously produced in WC's and was way ahead of what England expected to happen in the final.   They prepared to attack the Springboks weak spots and there were very few of those in the game.

However, the latter is way ahead of your normal thinking process  so maybe you would learn something of importance and not stick to simpleton deductions. 

         

AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
08 Mar 2020, 16:26
#8
08 Mar 2020, 16:26#8

Same shapes, same plays. Nothing new under the sun. Scrum dominance, set piece dominance. That was the beginning and end of the matter. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Mar 2020, 16:31
#9
08 Mar 2020, 16:31#9

The tries were counter attack tries....the result of mistakes created by pressure. Traditional Springbok rugby....nothing new . 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Mar 2020, 18:00
#10
08 Mar 2020, 18:00#10

Simplicity and stupidity rolled into one moronic duo.   What else can one expect from those two/   .   

AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
08 Mar 2020, 22:14
#11
08 Mar 2020, 22:14#11

Ha ! No refutation? The more things change, the more they stay the same. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 Mar 2020, 02:34
#12
09 Mar 2020, 02:34#12

Why did I say Simplicity and stupidity?  Because it is true.   These two morons tried to discredit the Springboks constantly in the past and was hoping for a England in,   

Then AO disappeared from site for three months and for hours there was no message of congratulations by Mozart and he was forced to provide one only after being forced to provide one.   

We all saw how bad the Springboks winning the Rugby Championship performance of the Springboks were compared to the 2015 series in which SA lost all three matches.   Obviously the idiots were desperate to discredit Erasmus as a coach compared top his two immediate predecessors,

After the World Cup win there were numerous postings by Mozart implying that the Springboks did not deserve to win the WC,   He criticized endlessly the fact that   World Rugby decided that -

*   Team of the Year was the Springboks;

*   Erasmus was the coach of the year; and

*   after an evaluation by a Committee of experts decided on P=S du Toit being the layer of the year.

The cowardly AO conveniently for him vanished for the site and when he eventually returned his first posting was clearly an affront to what really happened and why the Springboks win the WC.    His approach was as stupid as it always was - the Springboks only won the WC because of superiority in the scrums.  Mozart was quick to credit the Beast as the only reason why there was scrum superiority.    

Mozart has always had one objective in all their postings about the WC -  namely to discredit Erasmus as a coach and lied endlessly about Du Toit - even more so than eh used to,  The Cowardly AO came up with a similar story afterwards - scrumming superiority - keep quiet about the rest an hope nobody would point it out/    Keep quiet about the matter may have given the coward absentee time to come up with a simplistic excuse for the Springboks winning the WC, 

They could not look at the full reason for this according to them catastrophe and would avoid like a plague - 

*   anything where Erasmus was to be credited with superior coaching;

*   how poor the attacking ability of the Springboks backline was despite the fact that the team was responsible for the highest number of tries scored in the tournament and that 66% of all tries scored was by backline players; and

*   anything where player like Du Toit and De Allende was involved in.

The fact is that all Mozart did was to discredit the Springbok win and to criticize key players in the tournament and for he most stupid coward ever to start with his normal BS

Their contributions became funnier and funnier -  so eepnthem comin.   LMAO                           

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
09 Mar 2020, 23:46
#13
09 Mar 2020, 23:46#13
This is why Aug is such an ignorant rugby man - imagine concluding England are the more potent attacking force vs Boks - what a load of horse shit Take the backs for instance on attack Faf vs Youngs - Faf by a country mile Pollard vs Ford - miles apart de Allende vs Farrell - chalk and cheese Am vs Tuilagi - gile vs strength - even Kolbe vs May - May is good, Kolbe is brilliant Mapimpi vs Watson -Mapimpi all the way Willie vs Daly - Willie found his mojo in the final, Daly failed all WC
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
10 Mar 2020, 01:09
#14
10 Mar 2020, 01:09#14
Are you trying to insinuate that Wales and England now are the same teams as they were in the RWC? 
AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
10 Mar 2020, 01:41
#15
10 Mar 2020, 01:41#15

In 2018 and 2019 the Boks were bottom in almost all attacking stats. England structure opportunities, the Boks rely on an individual to do something on their own. Big difference. If the defence can keep the scores close, maybe it works out, but not always. Look at the final and see the muddled running lines on attack, in the second most dominant test of the Rassie era.Where were the Boks in each individual attacking statistical category in the World Cup? Nowhere? Interesting, so much better, yet no output. That's the typical plastic fan model. Just forceful emotive straining. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
10 Mar 2020, 02:45
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10 Mar 2020, 02:45#16
As I said you speak a load of utter shit. But kindly prove me wrong by providing evidence of the fruits of England’s structured attacking play Yeah the Boks won the RC, the WC and climbed the ranks to number one relying on the individual brilliance of players Fuck me what a load of shit - you can’t make this crap up
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Mar 2020, 04:38
#17
10 Mar 2020, 04:38#17

Dave

AO is  complete idiot and in all his former user names spouted the same repetitive nonsense,  He is totally clueless and pretend his interpretation as to what happened in games is ridiculous.   He  has been at the BS ever since Erasmus was appointed as coach and went so far at one stage claiming that Coetzee is a better coach than Erasmus,

He is the idiot who also claimed that -

*   Meyer had a game plan catering for more attacking backline attacks; 

*   Morne Steyn was on par with Carter as a flyhalf in correcting his previous statement that Steyn was a better player;

*   That the Springboks  in 2015 in losing all three RC matches performed better than they did in 2019 when winning the RC with ease; 

*    That De Allende has "weak" upper body strength and should never be in the Springboks squad despite claims by experts that De Allende is the key player in both backline attacks and  defense;

*    He joined Mozart in his total attacks on the worlds highest rated player in 2019 - again decided on by a Committee of experts from 8 different countries.

There is two things obvious as to AO, namely -

*    he is so  stupid his contributions are  always good  for a laugh; and

*    whatever he writes just accept  the exact opposite to what he writes as factual'.

AO has one stand-out ability - he is a total rugby idiot,                  

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Mar 2020, 05:51
#18
10 Mar 2020, 05:51#18
That’s rich coming  from the idiot who wrote this: 
clevermike

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May 17, 2017, 11:11

To be quite frank I would rather see Cronje at flyhalf ahead of both Pollard and Jantjies.   Definitely not any of the Steyns also.   The only other considerations should be Goosen or Boshoff.

Lets face it Cronje is an uncertainty, Pollard has poor form - not only in Super Rugby, but also in the tests in November 2014 and in 2015 - and Jantjies does not have the temperament to play test rugby. 
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Mar 2020, 11:43
#19
10 Mar 2020, 11:43#19

What about the 20 000 idiotic posts of yours on this site?   In any event that was written ion 2017 after Pollard did not lay any rugby for near to 16 months and there was doubts about his potential performances.   Your total addiction to idiocy is every day of the year  and has never changed since 2012.         

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Mar 2020, 14:16
#20
10 Mar 2020, 14:16#20

Exactly.....Pollard had been through a life threatening situation and a devastating injury and you were so inherently anti Pollard you never gave him a chance. Stupid and nasty.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Mar 2020, 14:38
#21
10 Mar 2020, 14:38#21

Listen dunce - I wrote repeatedly that Pollard will have to prove himself as being worthy of selection and once he was selected I never said anything negative about him.   Unlike you and your idiotic remarks about players like De Allende and Du Toit, I accept that he did prove himself of being worthy of selection.     .   

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