Watch out for the Bargie Banana Peel

Wow, so we just finished the most tense test series in recent history. Glad to see that got another one over Gatland who himself is probably one of the most boring coaches. 

But what I'm really curious about is to see whether the bargies have been laying in ambush and may spring a supprise on the boks this weekend. 

We have no time to rest. We simply have to dust ourselves off and get our heads back in the game for the next 2 weeks.

Would be interesting to see if we persist with the current game plan or are we willing to evolve a bit. 

I know whenever the boks try to spread it around it always seem to backfire, but surely we can still play our same game but with better set plays as well as trying to run a bit more rather than just bombing it up in the air and hoping for 50/50 calls to go our way.  

I am not really impressed with the springbok team that will face the Pumas on Saturday.    However, the Pumas only beat the  Springbok team  once in SA and that was in Durban in 2015 where they beat the first choice team  of Meyer easily, but in that series the Springboks played 3 and lost three and thee election of the springbok team at the time was based on experience with total disregard of performances, so it could be what is expected in the losing scenario. 

I still think that the team on Saturday is an experimental team  - the same thing noticeable in 2018 - aimed at looking at future et players to replace some present top players in the case of injury.   The real weakness of the squad is at flyhalf - with only one real test level flyhalf  in Pollard being available.   I think Erasmus w ill soon start looking wider than Steyn and Jantjies as stand-in players.

That being said the coaching brilliance of the present staff set-up of he Springboks may be enough to pull off a surprise victory on Saturday.

Yes Meyer was a fool for selecting Damian, Lood, Coetzee, Mvovo, Kriel, Steph, Pienaar, Koch.

Anyway, back to Saturday. It depends on how los Pumas play. If they play that passive boring game like the first test of 2018, they'll lose. If they keep it in hand, playing a more complete game, they'll be much harder to stop than the Lions. 

"Yes Meyer was a fool for selecting Damian, Lood, Coetzee, Mvovo, Kriel, Steph, Pienaar, Koch ."

I'm not sure what to make of the Argies current form given that they have only played 3 test in 21.

So the beat an understrength team wales

So their recent record WDWDLDW. Big scelp being NZ. If Sanchez is playing we might have our work cut out as he very  similar to Finn Russel  

Arg 33 vs 11 Wales 

Arg 20 vs 20 Wales 

Arg 23 vs 17 Rom

2020

Arg 16 vs 16 Aus 

Arg 0 vs 38 NZ 

Arg 15 vs 15 Aus 

Arg 15 vs 25 NZ 

This is where you plummet Herr Draht, you criticised the coach, but not the players who failed. Why did Damian blow each and every defensive engagement to lose the Wallaby test of 2015? Why did Lood have ghost hands to give NZ a break for a try in the RWC? Why did Damian fail to stop Nonu over nearly 40m if he is a power back and the best 12 in the game? Why did Kriel blow his assignment and let Japan score a try? Why did Goosen, Reinach, Lood and Lambie get blow apart on the 2014 EOYT? Why did Coetzee fail to deliver the production that the supposedly inferior Alberts gave game-in and game-out? Yes, you were one of those who turned a blind eye. Meyer is the last good coach we've had. He let himself down giving into external pressure where Jake would say "stuff you!". That's the difference. 

Kindergarten Imbecile 

You should know that the players who had minimal  game time in the 2015 RWC were the unplayable ones in the so-called WC squad.    Aside from that Meyer had a plan that nullified the backline performance  of the Springboks.     Look at who were the failures in the Japan disaster and you find most of the ultimate failures in that squad  as well.     It was a disaster from the first game  in 2015.   

As a result of the disastrous performances under both Meyer and Coetzee the Sprmgboks ended up in the no 7 position on the ranking list and ended up having  to play the AB's in the first match in the RWC playing the All Blacks in the opening round in the WC in 2019.     The two idiotic kids on site moaned like the idiots they are about that loss and even said the AB's should have been the real winners of the WC and the Springboks did not deserve to win the trophy.   

However, the two idiots conveniently forgot about the loss against Japan in the 2015 RWC and where they blamed only Kriel for the disaster created by Meyer, while they praise the players that really caused the disaster.    

Moolaa

I am not sure why the team  has been selected  on the basis the coaching staff did.    Erasmus and Nienaber are very good in studying   the strengths and weaknesses  of opposing teams and selected the Springboks team accordingly.   Maybe I am wrong on the issue.

The two also have a habit of selecting experimental teams to give new players a chance to get into the frame and be efficient stand-ins  in future and some players make the grade - others don't.

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Josè and Krutch are not those kinds of coaches. They have a philosophy and impose it. It's inflexible. 

Indeed, there is no clear cut picture of what will happen against the Pumas, we all know they can turn up when least expected and we do know the Boks side has been rearranged and the key players battle weary, I think.

Call it a Shadowline if you like...the banana peel is always there.

It's going to be a tough ride in the treadmill with AB's gleefully awaiting us , rubbing their hands.

Australia too won't be easy.

But it's not easy at the top. You are targeted heavily. But that's the way I like rugby. Don't enjoy pushovers, and leave cricket scores to cricket.

Nothing to do about being at the top. The Boks are not seen as being at the top. 

You can't be closer to the top than current world champions and world number one...a case can be made that we were a bit lucky to win the RWC, but you can only play what's in front of you...I'm curious at how this team will do after getting some match practice. 

Well maybe in Planet Meton they could well have different rankings, ask my friend Plum 

But in the world that most of us poor humans have to contend, we have:

Men's Rankings | World Rugby 

The Boks are not seen as the best team in the world. After the Lions series, not even prominent figures in the game rate the Boks highly. 

Kindergarten Imbecile

The Boks were not the best team in the world since 2008 and even in the 2007 they were lucky not to meet the AB's who beat them in the Tri-nations 33 6.   In fact after looking at the 2007 WC the game ws a shambles with poor defense and inadequate ball protection at breakdiwns being the norm.   In that final their backline was impotent and good for nothing.   

The only time the forwards wer attacking they lost possession of the ball - a turnover.   But for some silly penalties the English give away the English would have won the game.  There  backline attacks were much better than that of the Springboks.   The qualityof rugby played in that final was dismal/   

The Boks were on top of the rankings for a very good reason and that is because they were the be st team in the world.   Only prejudiced idiot thinks otherwse.    

The 2007 Boks faced the form teams in the tournament. Ende. And and the last English side with a strong pack. 

Added to that. How'd the showdown with NZ go in 2019? Think before you speak little one. 

You must be kidding - The top teams in the world in 2007 were the AB's and Aussies - we faced  Fiji in  the quarterfinal and Argentina in the semi - ending against a dismal over-the-hill English team in the final.   The English team was ranked 5 in the word in 2007 at the start ofo the tournament.   

The showdown against the AB's in 2019 was a draw and a loss - but never a 33-6 loss like in 2007.   

Why don't you look at what really happened before you write shit on site?   .   .      

• (2)

  
• NEW ZEALAND

• (3)

  
• ARGENTINA

• (4)

  
• ENGLAND

• (5)

  
• AUSTRALIA

• (6)

  
• FRANCE

We beat the third and 4th ranked teams. NZ was taken down for the second time in 8 years by France, who almost beat them again in 2011.

The rankings at the end of 2007 was  AFTER  the WC and took into account the WC performances  and count double for points earned in the WC/   The performances must be measured at what it was at he start of the WC - not what it was afterwar the tournament - hell but you are dim on rugby issues.!!!!!!!!!      Look at what the rankings were at he end of 2006 and that can be used a a comparison - one can help overcoming ignorance - but never stupidity .  

That’s just what a truly stupid person would think…..what matters more, your opponents’ form a year before the WC, or their form in the WC.

Secondly some teams play better in the WC….the Boks, England, France. 

We beat the third and fourth ranked teams in 2007, just as we did in 2019. Pity you  brought the subject up, now you look like a fool again.

No Mozarrt

Stupid you are and stupid you remain.     I cannot help you if you do not understand nayhting at all.   I said look at what the situation was before the start of the 2007 WC and that fgigure will not be available at this stage - so the only thing one reallyc an look at was the sranking at thee nd of the year. before the WC.    

Because of the double point system applicable  to  WC's  the real ranking is what was true at the start of the WC.    By the way the ranking of teams for the purposes of  allocating to the various pools is done 18 months before the WC,   That is why the Sprngboks ended up playing the AB/s in the relevant pool in 2019  and the same applies to England in the 2007 WC. 

Argentina: 15 Santiago Carreras, 14 Bautista Delguy, 13 Santiago Chocobares, 12 Jerónimo De La Fuente, 11 Matías Moroni, 10 Nicolás Sánchez, 9 Felipe Ezcurra, 8 Rodrigo Bruni, 7 Facundo Isa, 6 Pablo Matera, 5 Marco Kremer, 4 Guido Petti, 3 Francisco Gomez Kodela,2 Julian Montoya (Captain), 1 Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro.
Replacements:16 Facundo Bosch, 17 Carlos Muzzio, 18 Santiago Medrano, 19 Tomas Lavanini, 20 Matias Alemanno, 21 Gonzalo Bertranou, 22 Domingo Miotti, 23 Sebastian Cancelliere

South Africa: 15 Damian Willemse, 14 Sbu Nkosi, 13 Jesse Kriel, 12 Frans Steyn, 11 Aphelele Fassi, 10 Elton Jantjies, 9 Cobus Reinach, 8 Jasper Wiese, 7 Kwagga Smith, 6 Siya Kolisi (captain), 5 Lood de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Wilco Louw, 2 Joseph Dweba, 1 Ox Nché.
Replacements: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Trevor Nyakane, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Marvin Orie, 20 Marco van Staden, 21 Dan du Preez, 22 Herschel Jantjies, 23 Morné Steyn.

The above is their top team  and they aare going to give us headaches.   Delguy is a star wing with plenty of pace.  De La Fuente is going to be all over Steyn and  Sanchez is one of the best flyhalfs in the world.  Pablo Matera is a real star as well.    I see Montoya is now their Captain    Lavaninni is a brute of a player and Etzebeth will ahve to stay on the field - otherwise th locks will be brutalized by the two Argentininans.

After seeing that team I will be surprised if the Springboks  win the first test.          

There's a lot of oomph in that side.

Ole Cruz is back, careful Tokkie if you call him a brute he may not post here again.