Springboks
Had the Scots more patience and discipline they'd have won. Willie wasn't great, but here was far worse. I was expecting a few issues, but I was reaching for the stars, apparently. This was not a good showing.
Kolisi also had a great game. Whew will you ever learn the game.
Beanbag, take the blinkers off... and the gimp mask under said blinkers. Thanking you kindly.
The racking of players are BS and normally associated with a team that lost a match and not worth anything at all. .
"Man of the match: The award goes to Springbok flank Pieter-Steph du Toit. The loose forward was a workhorse, he made four carries and seven tackles. He also scored the Boks’ first try." Rugby 365
Hilarious….he made 7 tackles but….er…he missed 3. Dud actually did a few useful things, but mentioning that try where Mostert pushed him over the line and his tackling is really reaching.
He was cleanly beaten several times. That doesn't turn up in the stats.
Rating players who delivered such an ungly game.
Mud pies must be exquisite meals, rate the mud.
Terminate rugby in SA.
After that performance, I'd say we need Willemse on the wing and Willie should start.
Willie played badly on the night but we have to have them both on the park.
Ideally
9 Faf --> but I wouldn't be too upset with Reinach. Faf still has my vote because he applies more pressure than anyone else. He was all over Scotland on Saturday.
10 Pollard --> Manie's fell apart so Pollard is the obvious choice. The problem is, one can't move Manie to 15 either because he's been missing tackles too.
11 Cheslin
12 AE --> What's the word for something that is more obvious than obvious???
13 Moodie --> We need that word from above here again.
14 Willemse
15 Willie
Kriel and Williams on the bench.
Libbok is poor. We can't always hope that his kick pass is to an area where nobody is defending. He is far too limited. Not test rugby material. Too many in the team are not test material.
Wait, am I the only person here who thinks Willie is the most technical tackler in the Boks team?
The guy performs a perfect ankle noose, every time, without fail.
I like Manie but there are three things we want from him...
1) Distribution, for which I score him higher than anyone.
2) Kicking, has been very flakey and affected(off the tee). Nobody could score him highly for his place-kicking but his out-of-hand kicking has been good.
3) Defence, could b e a major concern if he doesn't learn better technique. The thing is, he doesn't have to stop people in place and bounce them backward. Simply bringing them down would suffice. But he has to learn how to get around the ankles.
We'll see how he goes but we can't settle for a leaky ten with issues off the tee.
All in all, Jantjies was solid off the tee, brilliant out-of-hand, and almost as good a creator as Manie.
I Libbok but he has to improve, and quickly.
Dave
I watching the map it was clear that Mostert was pathetic - he was tried to be the key director of a driving maul after a line out and it ended in disintegration of the maul and in a Scotland penalty. His contribution to ball protection was pathetic - he just does not have the physical strength to contribute to that component of the game.
To credit him for pushing Du Toit over for his try is just another Mozart invention. If Mostert was the ball carrier he would have been pushed back 5 to 6 meters - as happened in previous tests.
I was not entirely satisfied with the Springbok performance - the backline was not functioning well enough in attack .- to much passing of the ball when the Scottish players was to nea for any possible attacking play,
There are elements in he game that should improve and I hope to see them improving as the series progresses. However, the win ensures that the Springboks will go through to the play-offs . I still would support Williams to play at 13 instead of Kriel though.
By t he way the jeremiads of Mozart, l'Grande Merde and a few others over the past year about how Scotland will beat the S Springboks was not fulfilled - so at least we know that they were talking supershit all the time.
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Mostert is not meant to be a big-hitting impact tackler or runner. His role is as a smotherer who makes the most tackles in the team. This is what he has always done, and unlike some players, his stats are there as evidence, week in and week out, showing that he is fulfilling his role. High volumes of ruck attendance and a high tackle count...that's his job guys.
His constant high work rate tires out the opposition and in so doing maximizes our forward dominance. That is the purpose of his role and the sole reason for his selection and exactly why he never went to the gym and put on those extra 5KGs that would make yall so happy. It's not what he's there for...its never been what he was there for. It's not how he plays. It's not what any of the coaches at any of the teams he plays for ever wanted from him. Because they understand the value of a lock with his tank.
The crazy thing is that you guys think it's impossible for him to simply chow some protein and get bigger. Like he is completely unaware that he's a bit lite.
A guy that tall would put on 7Kgs in the off-season with minimal effort. But guess what that would do...?
It would affect his gas tank and ruin his best attribute.
Here, I'll try and put it in simple terms...
Do you think our forwards are generally dominant because we are simply stronger than the other teams? Or do you think it may be because Mostert helps to sap the energy out of the opposition?
I can assure you that we don't bench, deadlift, curl, or squat on average more than other teams do. We dominate them because we have guys like Mostert who make sure they are more tired than we are.
Call him a powder puff all you want...but I guarantee you the Bok side would laugh at the idea that he didn't add irreplaceable value to their efforts.
A few simple facts:
Mostert is always in the right place to make a contribution
Our bomb squad front row scrums better than the giants who start
Dud Toit plays like a lock and can’t tackle in space
Faf has better kicking technique than Libbok
Libbok can’t tackle and a flyhalf who can’t tackle is a target
Dud Allende had heaps of good ball and never made one thing happen
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There aren’t good answers to all these observations, but can’t we just be honest for once and accept they are true.
Here’s one more.. .Mostert packs behind the loosehead and we rolled them up from the loosehead side every time. And when we got in trouble it was always on the tighthead.
Lewis Ludlum was on the field for 15 mins in our game. The ball was in play for 7 of those minutes. He made the fourth highest number of tackles in that time with 12.
10 tackles isn’t really that good a stat, is it ?
There is zero evidence that the scrum is better when Snyman or Lood scrummed behind the loosehead. Yes the scrum is a unit comprised of 8 parts…..actually 6 parts, the flanks are peripheral. Use one weaker part and it should be apparent.
Do I think Lood pushes harder than your man Lomp….you betcha!
De Allende never offloaded in the tackle once…it was up to Snyman to show how to do that and just how effective it can be.
It’s not the job of the 7 to make tackles in space….gosh I never knew that.
It was pretty good going though, Plum.
